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 elgrande  bedford 20 Oct 19 2.10pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
That was totally denied by Letwin himself this morning on the Marr show in a fashion that carried total conviction. Lord Pannick assisted with the legal drafting, being an eminent QC. Making sure it is legally watertight makes sense so as no backbencher has access to government lawyers using a QC in the Lords makes perfect sense. Yet if it was about his 2k on expenses scandal of a few years ago...you wouldn't believe a word.
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| Midlands Eagle 20 Oct 19 2.14pm |
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Originally posted by elgrande
It was more than that. The Ł2,000 was just to repair a leaking pipe under his tennis court
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| dynamicdick Dormansland 20 Oct 19 3.00pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
The Speaker is just the Speaker. He has rules and conventions to follow. That he defends Parliament's rights against a government trying to railroad it's plans through is exactly what ANY Speaker would do. Unless he is, of course, a stool pigeon of the government. No just a stool pigeon for the Brexit blockers, actually no, part of the blockers. The guy is an utter disgrace to democracy.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 20 Oct 19 3.11pm |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
More Wissy Bollox. John Bercow is as unbiased as he is shy and introverted I rather think it is you whose bias is obvious. Even Rees Mogg sang his praises last week! That he has gained attention as Speaker is both down to his personality and the attempts by this government to sideline Parliament. He needs to be strong and I hope his successor is as well.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 20 Oct 19 3.13pm |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
What you really mean is that you believed him therefore it must be the truth. Yet more Wissy bollox Did you see his interview? If not watch it before you judge. I thought him sincere and honest. Truth always has a ring to it. Which is why a bell is rarely heard these days from government spokesmen.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 20 Oct 19 3.18pm |
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Originally posted by elgrande
Or did he go to Brussels just for a box of Belgium chocolates and a glass of beer. David Lammy and all the others that went to Brussels the other day...funded by Soros...what a surprise..not.. Explaining the role of Parliament to those who might not fully understand it is vital at a critical time like this. That the government negotiates is the law. That others explain is their duty. How on earth you think that Soros might be involved made me actually laugh. Is there no limit to the depth of ridiculousness that these conspiracy theories can sink to? And some people don't think that social media is having any impact!
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 20 Oct 19 3.21pm |
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Originally posted by dynamicdick
No just a stool pigeon for the Brexit blockers, actually no, part of the blockers. The guy is an utter disgrace to democracy. Garbage. The guy is a bastion against the creep of a government determined to ignore the will of our sovereign Parliament. He will ultimately be hailed as a hero and have his own statue on Parliament square.
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cryrst  The garden of England 20 Oct 19 3.25pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Did you see his interview? If not watch it before you judge. I thought him sincere and honest. Truth always has a ring to it. Which is why a bell is rarely heard these days from government spokesmen. He may be sincere and honest.
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 Hrolf The Ganger 20 Oct 19 4.41pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Garbage. The guy is a bastion against the creep of a government determined to ignore the will of our sovereign Parliament. He will ultimately be hailed as a hero and have his own statue on Parliament square. The same sovereign Parliament who approved and promised to honour the Referendum.
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Teddy Eagle  20 Oct 19 4.51pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Garbage. The guy is a bastion against the creep of a government determined to ignore the will of our sovereign Parliament. He will ultimately be hailed as a hero and have his own statue on Parliament square. Put it up next to Cromwell’s. He had a view on the sovereignty of Parliament too.
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| the silurian The garden of England.(not really) 20 Oct 19 4.53pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
The same sovereign Parliament who approved and promised to honour the Referendum. but according to wissy they have honoured the result !!! ONly according to wissy though, there is some twisted logic he uses to explain this.....and he thinks all leavers are thick!!
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| elgrande bedford 20 Oct 19 5.07pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Explaining the role of Parliament to those who might not fully understand it is vital at a critical time like this. That the government negotiates is the law. That others explain is their duty. How on earth you think that Soros might be involved made me actually laugh. Is there no limit to the depth of ridiculousness that these conspiracy theories can sink to? And some people don't think that social media is having any impact! Really who paid for them then. I do hope it's not tax payers money he is using...you know the same tax payers that he and the other remoaner alliance are denying the said taxpayers what they voted for.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 20 Oct 19 5.10pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
The same sovereign Parliament who approved and promised to honour the Referendum. What do you think they were doing when they triggered Article 50? Everything since has been about how we exit and not if. Now, given all the time that has elapsed, there is a growing mood that the people should verify whether they want the way that has been negotiated or has their opinion changed in the intervening years and with their greater knowledge. As this is a big step, and we all understand the complexities better, and we have the opportunity, I can understand the argument. Just as I can understand the one that says more delay causes more uncertainty.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 20 Oct 19 5.16pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Put it up next to Cromwell’s. He had a view on the sovereignty of Parliament too. Would you rather have an all powerful Monarch, whose will must be obeyed whatever their state of mind or personal preferences? Abandoning Parliamentary democracy in favour of the executive is the first step on a similar road, maybe not back to a totalitarian Monarchy but towards a totalitarian government. You might be frustrated by Parliament's actions but the bottom line is that they are doing it for all our interests. Yours included.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 20 Oct 19 5.22pm |
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Originally posted by the silurian
but according to wissy they have honoured the result !!! ONly according to wissy though, there is some twisted logic he uses to explain this.....and he thinks all leavers are thick!! There is a significant proportion of the people who think as I do, so hardly just according to me. It's only here that I am outnumbered. I have never ever suggested that all leavers are "thick". Every group has a mixture of types within it and this is no different. I just believe leaving to be, on balance, the wrong decision and that some people were influenced by malign activity sufficient to tip the balance. Remember the gap was only 4% so it would have only taken 2% of the voters to have been so influenced to make the difference.
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| Teddy Eagle 20 Oct 19 5.24pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Would you rather have an all powerful Monarch, whose will must be obeyed whatever their state of mind or personal preferences? Abandoning Parliamentary democracy in favour of the executive is the first step on a similar road, maybe not back to a totalitarian Monarchy but towards a totalitarian government. You might be frustrated by Parliament's actions but the bottom line is that they are doing it for all our interests. Yours included. Personally I’d rather not have a statue of someone responsible for the deaths of over 40% of another countries population whatever his enlightened views on parliamentary procedure.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 20 Oct 19 5.26pm |
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Originally posted by elgrande
Really who paid for them then. I do hope it's not tax payers money he is using...you know the same tax payers that he and the other remoaner alliance are denying the said taxpayers what they voted for. If he went on his own time in a private capacity then he has absolutely no reason to reveal if he was supported in some way. He could not have done any negotiation. All he could have done was explanation.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 20 Oct 19 5.27pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
What do you think they were doing when they triggered Article 50? Everything since has been about how we exit and not if. Now, given all the time that has elapsed, there is a growing mood that the people should verify whether they want the way that has been negotiated or has their opinion changed in the intervening years and with their greater knowledge. As this is a big step, and we all understand the complexities better, and we have the opportunity, I can understand the argument. Just as I can understand the one that says more delay causes more uncertainty. Total lies and more lies. Most want this farce to end as quickly as possible by leaving. Hard core Remainers will never be satisfied by any deal and that is why their opinion on a deal is irrelevant
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 20 Oct 19 5.28pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Personally I’d rather not have a statue of someone responsible for the deaths of over 40% of another countries population whatever his enlightened views on parliamentary procedure. That's another matter, and one on which I would agree with you.
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