So you basically agree with me except that you consider Hodgson more a coach than a manager, that he has no responsibility other than coaching the first team and therefore Parish is more to blame than Hodgson.

I would agree with you entirely if I thought another manager couldn’t do better than Hodgson with the current team, but as you say, some do and some don’t.

I can believe this could have happened. But I feel in or out we'd still be playing pretty much the same tbh so whether we'd be any better off I don't know.

I understand the general point you are making but I am gummed to my position apropos the specific point you raised regarding Mr Hodgson and our crowds at Selhurst Park.

Wilo, you are very niaev if you think Crowds don't have some bearing on Chairmen/ Boards manager decisions.

My comments weren't intended to give any such impression.

The retinue of close friends of the 'Stately ornament' that is Steve Parish does not include 'Yours truly'.

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Would there really be that bad a reaction at SP to all of this?

I'm very much dissatisfied with what I have been seeing and am not shy at games but I would not be inclined to give too much grief to Roy or the players, especially whilst we're still not technically safe. I would have thought (only my opinion) it would be more murmurs and grunts as opposed to fully fledged vitriol, the type that would influence the higher ups.

Last time I can really recall any ferocity from the crowd at Selhurst was when we were 4-0 down to Sunderland.

Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

One of my friends is one of Steve Parish's oldest friends, they went to school together.

And Steve doesn't share any inside Palace info with him. Otherwise I could be ' In The Know ' !

Old, Ungifted and White

To those who argue Hodgson is getting the maximum of the players at his disposal, would a Brendan Rodgers employ similar tactics with those same players?
I doubt he would be lining up 442 with Eze and PVA in wide positions in midfield.
He would not be lining up with two central midfield players in the majority of games allowing us to be continually overrun.
He would be more likely to involve Eze in a Maddison type inside forward role where he could cause maximum disruption to the opposition.He’s unlikely to ask Eze to turn into Townsend.
I doubt Rodgers would persist with one paced Luka at the base of his midfield when he has the more mobile Mcarthy, Mcarthur or Kouyate as options.
Some of our better performances have coincided with Luka’s absence.
I also doubt Rodgers would leave our strikers , whomever they may be, as isolated and starved of service as Hodgson.

Rodgers would have Benteke in the side, a player he bought for Liverpool !

What's sad is that currently the enjoyment level of supporting Crystal Palace has hit rock bottom. I dread watching them on TV and it's become a little embarrassing.
As fans, I think we are a thick skinned bunch. We rarely boo and we take an awful lot of s***e football. But it seems like it's gone on too long now and everyone is at the end of their tether.
I don't hate Roy and I think he's done an admirable job but it's the end of this cycle.
Fresh ideas are needed and a new direction. It's clear as day to not only us as fans but also now fans of other clubs and pundits too.