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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards SW19 CPFC Flag Addiscombe West 28 Oct 19 8.37pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

That is the stupid narrative that the opposition and the BBC are pushing.
What matters is that only one party wants to deliver Brexit.

Look, it may be a narrative, but it's the truth. As is the fact that all the other parties are trying to disrupt. Let's not do the thing you always rail against.

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards SW19 CPFC Flag Addiscombe West 28 Oct 19 8.39pm

Originally posted by the silurian

absolute nonsense, are you another wisbech clone!!

haha. OK champ.

Just being objective and calling out over zealous spin. The game works for both sides, you can't complain when you get called out.

It's a promise, and he couldn't keep it. Standard politico posturing.

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards SW19 CPFC Flag Addiscombe West 28 Oct 19 8.40pm

Originally posted by dollardays

"The year is 2192. The British Prime Minister visits Brussels to ask for an extension of the Brexit deadline. No one remembers where this tradition originated, but every year it attracts many tourists from all over the world."

haha

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 28 Oct 19 8.50pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

This issue could be resolved in five minutes if Remainers approved Brexit.

It could. All they need is a form of Brexit they can approve. And then for that to be verified by the people.

Do that and there is a path to be followed.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 28 Oct 19 8.56pm

Originally posted by dynamicdick

The Government hasn't been able to carry through its promise through because of the Brexit Blockers.

Brexit blockers? Surely you mean no deal and bad deal blockers? The government were given every chance to stop promising what they could not deliver but persisted anyway. They have been taught a severe lesson that Parliament is ultimately senior to government.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 28 Oct 19 9.01pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

That is the stupid narrative that the opposition and the BBC are pushing.
What matters is that only one party wants to deliver Brexit.

It isn't stupid at all. It's the truth.

The stupidity was Johnson making definitive statements knowing it was impossible to keep what was being promised.

He won't be allowed to forget that in the forthcoming campaign.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 28 Oct 19 9.07pm

Originally posted by dollardays

"The year is 2192. The British Prime Minister visits Brussels to ask for an extension of the Brexit deadline. No one remembers where this tradition originated, but every year it attracts many tourists from all over the world."

Strange how such traditions grow. Like the one which sees all PM's from Johnson forwards being buried in ditches.

 


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the silurian Flag The garden of England.(not really) 28 Oct 19 9.23pm

Originally posted by SW19 CPFC

haha. OK champ.

Just being objective and calling out over zealous spin. The game works for both sides, you can't complain when you get called out.

It's a promise, and he couldn't keep it. Standard politico posturing.

Called out..? Really? how is it spin.....Johnson has been thwarted at every step by lying thieving remain MPs who will do anything to keep their jobs for as long as they can....hence Corbyns refusal to have a GE, even though hes been calling for one for ages....coward knows hes gonna be humiliated when it happens

 

the silurian Flag The garden of England.(not really) 28 Oct 19 9.26pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

It could. All they need is a form of Brexit they can approve. And then for that to be verified by the people.

Do that and there is a path to be followed.

Cameron promised OUT MEANS OUT!! MPs have stopped it happening for their own self serving reasons.....verified by the people? Thought you didnt like people voting...leave it our elected representatives you said, they are more intelligent than the people you said......change of tune now
?

 

Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 28 Oct 19 9.32pm

Did anyone else watch Channel 4 Dispatches this evening?

It covered the way that the American pharmaceutical industry is pressuring the Trump administration over ensuring the NHS pay "full market " prices as part of any trade deal, how there are already secret negotiations underway, how these are being disguised and how the impact will be buried by the use of double speak terminology. Trump doesn't need convincing and we would start from a position of considerable weakness.

This was eye opening stuff and ought to be seen and considered by everyone, whatever their position on Brexit. It could cost the NHS around £27 billion more for it's drugs every year. That's a third of it's annual budget!

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards SW19 CPFC Flag Addiscombe West 28 Oct 19 9.52pm

Originally posted by the silurian

Called out..? Really? how is it spin.....Johnson has been thwarted at every step by lying thieving remain MPs who will do anything to keep their jobs for as long as they can....hence Corbyns refusal to have a GE, even though hes been calling for one for ages....coward knows hes gonna be humiliated when it happens

Listen, Boris has just admitted it himself. The cause is irrelevant if you’re contesting it as fact. He’s broken his promise, and the man himself has said so. Don’t be a chump

 


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the silurian Flag The garden of England.(not really) 28 Oct 19 10.00pm

Originally posted by SW19 CPFC

Listen, Boris has just admitted it himself. The cause is irrelevant if you’re contesting it as fact. He’s broken his promise, and the man himself has said so. Don’t be a chump

whatever!! zzzzzzzzzzzzz!

 

palace_in_frogland Flag In a broken dream 28 Oct 19 10.02pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Did anyone else watch Channel 4 Dispatches this evening?

It covered the way that the American pharmaceutical industry is pressuring the Trump administration over ensuring the NHS pay "full market " prices as part of any trade deal, how there are already secret negotiations underway, how these are being disguised and how the impact will be buried by the use of double speak terminology. Trump doesn't need convincing and we would start from a position of considerable weakness.

This was eye opening stuff and ought to be seen and considered by everyone, whatever their position on Brexit. It could cost the NHS around £27 billion more for it's drugs every year. That's a third of it's annual budget!

What channel was that on? Oh, channel 4 you say? Right ho.

 

Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 28 Oct 19 10.13pm

Originally posted by SW19 CPFC

Look, it may be a narrative, but it's the truth. As is the fact that all the other parties are trying to disrupt. Let's not do the thing you always rail against.

The question is of no importance.
What is important is who you need to vote for if you want Brexit.

I think 99% of people have figured it out despite the media's efforts and the laughable position of the opposition.

 

Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 28 Oct 19 10.13pm

Originally posted by palace_in_frogland

What channel was that on? Oh, channel 4 you say? Right ho.

So shooting the messenger will solve this?

Right ho!

 


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.TUX. Flag 28 Oct 19 10.16pm

The never-ending saga continues.

11 years (and counting) of deliberate manipulation to rob the populous both financially and morally.

Stop typing and start realising.


 


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dannyboy1978 Flag 28 Oct 19 10.16pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

It could. All they need is a form of Brexit they can approve. And then for that to be verified by the people.

Do that and there is a path to be followed.

Verified by the people? You remoaners have always said referendums arnt legally binding and parliament makes the decisions.
Moving the goal posts to suit.

You word it like you know everything when in fact your making it up as you go!

Give us all a laugh, what's your figure for mass immigration per year. You conveniently ignored my question earlier.

 

Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 28 Oct 19 11.19pm

Originally posted by dannyboy1978

Verified by the people? You remoaners have always said referendums arnt legally binding and parliament makes the decisions.
Moving the goal posts to suit.

You word it like you know everything when in fact your making it up as you go!

Give us all a laugh, what's your figure for mass immigration per year. You conveniently ignored my question earlier.

It isn't, and never has been, my preference to hold another referendum. My comment was only in response to the suggestion about "approval" being withheld and how it might be given. You cannot approve of something you disapprove of but as I want Parliament to make that decision they are on the right track..

I didn't ignore your question! I told you I hadn't thought about it because it's such a silly concept that we ought not to use such an emotional term for such a serious matter.

Mass implies an overwhelmingly large amount of anything. Mass immigration would suggest the movement of a whole population from one country to another and not fluctuating trends of net migration.

 


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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 28 Oct 19 11.55pm

I would not repeat on HOL the language I used tonight in respect of our zombie Parliament and the opposition parties playing party politics and treating the electorate with sheer contempt.They are treating us as though we are total and utter buffoons.
Jolly well done to Bill Cash tonight - I fully concur with his sentiments.

I was hyperventilating, 'spitting ' out acid disgust and boiling with enmity as hot as a deep-fat fryer.Tonsils leaving their moorings with the coarsening of public discourse order of the day.They were statues and I was a pigeon.
Those in my company were all of the same opinion.

There are those who have a different viewpoint of course and they are entitled to their opinion but whilst I respect their opinions I am not minded to offer any kind of response.I have a political life outside of HOL, accordingly my energies on this site will concentrate on the non-political threads.Indeed some of the hogwash is really not deserving of the oxygen of publicity.

Edited by Willo (29 Oct 2019 12.13am)

 

cryrst Flag The garden of England 29 Oct 19 6.08am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

It isn't stupid at all. It's the truth.

The stupidity was Johnson making definitive statements knowing it was impossible to keep what was being promised.

He won't be allowed to forget that in the forthcoming campaign.

The voting public wont forget why he didnt deliver when he said he would.
Boris obviously thought there was a bit of honour in the HOC.
If he thought the deal was bad why would he offer it up.
It's bad for some and good for others.
All political decisions are like that.
You will see that if your mate JC gets into power.
I've got a feeling the scales on that one will tip to being bad for more in the long run.

 

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