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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 29 Oct 19 10.53am
Originally posted by dannyboy1978 Overwhelming is what we have, we bring entire cities worth of people to the UK each year. NO ONE EVER VOTED FOR MASS IMIGRATION THE POPULATION WAS NEVER ASKED MASS IMIGRATION WASN'T IN BLAIRS MANAFESTO the closest it's been asked is the Tory manefesto "tens of thousands" and they won the election and brexit winning the vote. [Link] British people dont want more people. It's simply a pyramid system fueled by the drug of cheap labour. It can't go on forever. Edited by dannyboy1978 (29 Oct 2019 6.53am) All you are doing is repeating, parrot like, the same tired old phrases I have heard in the UK and elsewhere around the world, for the past 60 years about immigration. The world has changed and as part of the world we are impacted by those changes. My own parents held these types of views but as they were unworldly and not particularly well educated I could both understand why and forgave them. What's your excuse? For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 29 Oct 19 10.53am

Originally posted by dannyboy1978

Overwhelming is what we have, we bring entire cities worth of people to the UK each year.

NO ONE EVER VOTED FOR MASS IMIGRATION
THE POPULATION WAS NEVER ASKED
MASS IMIGRATION WASN'T IN BLAIRS MANAFESTO

the closest it's been asked is the Tory manefesto "tens of thousands" and they won the election and brexit winning the vote.

[Link]

British people dont want more people.
It's simply a pyramid system fueled by the drug of cheap labour. It can't go on forever.

Edited by dannyboy1978 (29 Oct 2019 6.53am)

All you are doing is repeating, parrot like, the same tired old phrases I have heard in the UK and elsewhere around the world, for the past 60 years about immigration. The world has changed and as part of the world we are impacted by those changes. My own parents held these types of views but as they were unworldly and not particularly well educated I could both understand why and forgave them.

What's your excuse?

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 29 Oct 19 11.01am
Originally posted by cryrst The voting public wont forget why he didnt deliver when he said he would. Boris obviously thought there was a bit of honour in the HOC. There is. That's why they are resisting him. If he thought the deal was bad why would he offer it up. Because he is only interested in himself and his image. He is not a conviction politician. It's bad for some and good for others. It's only good for those who will profit from us leaving the EU on any terms. Like Rees Mogg. For everyone else, us both included, it's bad. All political decisions are like that. No they aren't. There is often a balance of good and bad but not this severe. You will see that if your mate JC gets into power. I've got a feeling the scales on that one will tip to being bad for more in the long run. JC is far from "my mate". He is the person I hold primarily responsible for this entire mess. If we had a functioning opposition then none of this would be happening. How a PM as bad as Johnson can be in the box seat to win a GE is all you need to know about Corbyn. He is a disaster who is going to ruin our country unless he is rapidly replaced. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 29 Oct 19 11.01am

Originally posted by cryrst

The voting public wont forget why he didnt deliver when he said he would.
Boris obviously thought there was a bit of honour in the HOC.

There is. That's why they are resisting him.

If he thought the deal was bad why would he offer it up.

Because he is only interested in himself and his image. He is not a conviction politician.

It's bad for some and good for others.

It's only good for those who will profit from us leaving the EU on any terms. Like Rees Mogg. For everyone else, us both included, it's bad.

All political decisions are like that.

No they aren't. There is often a balance of good and bad but not this severe.

You will see that if your mate JC gets into power.
I've got a feeling the scales on that one will tip to being bad for more in the long run.

JC is far from "my mate". He is the person I hold primarily responsible for this entire mess. If we had a functioning opposition then none of this would be happening. How a PM as bad as Johnson can be in the box seat to win a GE is all you need to know about Corbyn. He is a disaster who is going to ruin our country unless he is rapidly replaced.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Rudi Hedman Caterham 29 Oct 19 11.08am
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle All you are doing is repeating, parrot like, the same tired old phrases I have heard in the UK and elsewhere around the world, for the past 60 years about immigration. The world has changed and as part of the world we are impacted by those changes. My own parents held these types of views but as they were unworldly and not particularly well educated I could both understand why and forgave them. What's your excuse? To an extent, I agree, but nowhere near as much as you’d like. Blair and Brown opening Britain to Eastern Europe in 2004 and working class youth being ignored doesn’t have enough to do with the world changing for me. Their ideology of helping nearly everybody going (coming), and government performance figures didn’t have much to do with us having no choice but to put some of our own citizens 2nd. COYP

Rudi Hedman

Caterham 29 Oct 19 11.08am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

What's your excuse?

To an extent, I agree, but nowhere near as much as you’d like. Blair and Brown opening Britain to Eastern Europe in 2004 and working class youth being ignored doesn’t have enough to do with the world changing for me. Their ideology of helping nearly everybody going (coming), and government performance figures didn’t have much to do with us having no choice but to put some of our own citizens 2nd.

COYP

W12 29 Oct 19 11.10am
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle All you are doing is repeating, parrot like, the same tired old phrases I have heard in the UK and elsewhere around the world, for the past 60 years about immigration. The world has changed and as part of the world we are impacted by those changes. My own parents held these types of views but as they were unworldly and not particularly well educated I could both understand why and forgave them. What's your excuse? "Tired old views" is not an argument. The world has not just changed of it's own accord, the world has been changed by people that do not represent the interests of the indigenous population of England (and the other home nations) and literally the one time we've been given an opportunity to change that, the result is being reversed. Yet again you are suggesting that this view is just based on ignorance and racism and on that basis your views are disgusting to me. Edited by W12 (29 Oct 2019 11.11am)

W12 29 Oct 19 11.10am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

What's your excuse?

"Tired old views" is not an argument.

The world has not just changed of it's own accord, the world has been changed by people that do not represent the interests of the indigenous population of England (and the other home nations) and literally the one time we've been given an opportunity to change that, the result is being reversed.

Yet again you are suggesting that this view is just based on ignorance and racism and on that basis your views are disgusting to me.

Edited by W12 (29 Oct 2019 11.11am)

dannyboy1978 29 Oct 19 11.18am
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle All you are doing is repeating, parrot like, the same tired old phrases I have heard in the UK and elsewhere around the world, for the past 60 years about immigration. The world has changed and as part of the world we are impacted by those changes. My own parents held these types of views but as they were unworldly and not particularly well educated I could both understand why and forgave them. What's your excuse? Your choice of words are interesting when you look at the definition, sums you up really IMPACTED "the planners' lamentable failure to consult with the impacted population" " strongly or directly affected by something especially in a negative way " This is what happens when you live in your own little bubble Edited by dannyboy1978 (29 Oct 2019 11.18am)

dannyboy1978

29 Oct 19 11.18am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

All you are doing is repeating, parrot like, the same tired old phrases I have heard in the UK and elsewhere around the world, for the past 60 years about immigration. The world has changed and as part of the world we are impacted by those changes. My own parents held these types of views but as they were unworldly and not particularly well educated I could both understand why and forgave them.

What's your excuse?

Your choice of words are interesting when you look at the definition, sums you up really

IMPACTED

"the planners' lamentable failure to consult with the impacted population"

"
strongly or directly affected by something especially in a negative way "

This is what happens when you live in your own little bubble

Edited by dannyboy1978 (29 Oct 2019 11.18am)

SW19 CPFC Addiscombe West 29 Oct 19 11.25am
Excellent. GE incoming. This entire debacle has had more J-turns than a Vauxhall Nova. Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.

SW19 CPFC

Addiscombe West 29 Oct 19 11.25am

Excellent. GE incoming.

This entire debacle has had more J-turns than a Vauxhall Nova.

Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.

chris123 hove actually 29 Oct 19 11.35am
Originally posted by SW19 CPFC Excellent. GE incoming. This entire debacle has had more J-turns than a Vauxhall Nova. Good, this Parliament has been useless.

chris123

hove actually 29 Oct 19 11.35am

Originally posted by SW19 CPFC

Excellent. GE incoming.

This entire debacle has had more J-turns than a Vauxhall Nova.

Good, this Parliament has been useless.

W12 29 Oct 19 11.37am
Originally posted by SW19 CPFC Excellent. GE incoming. This entire debacle has had more J-turns than a Vauxhall Nova. Anyone wanting Brexit by voting for the Conservatives is seriously not paying attention.

W12 29 Oct 19 11.37am

Originally posted by SW19 CPFC

Excellent. GE incoming.

This entire debacle has had more J-turns than a Vauxhall Nova.

Anyone wanting Brexit by voting for the Conservatives is seriously not paying attention.

SW19 CPFC Addiscombe West 29 Oct 19 11.40am
Originally posted by chris123 Good, this Parliament has been useless. Careful what you wish for. I'd think a hung parliament will be even worse. Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.

SW19 CPFC

Addiscombe West 29 Oct 19 11.40am

Originally posted by chris123

Good, this Parliament has been useless.

Careful what you wish for. I'd think a hung parliament will be even worse.

Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.

Hrolf The Ganger 29 Oct 19 11.43am
Originally posted by SW19 CPFC Excellent. GE incoming. This entire debacle has had more J-turns than a Vauxhall Nova. Corbyn has nowhere left to wriggle. Now he has to pretend he is up for it. Watch him try and shift the emphasis away from Brexit and their shameful behaviour in denying the will of the people. Stand by for some laughable claims that we are living in a Dikensian Britain. Ironically, EU rule will probably help us create more poverty with suppressed wages via freedom of movement and poor living conditions through overcrowding. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (29 Oct 2019 11.44am)

Hrolf The Ganger

29 Oct 19 11.43am

Originally posted by SW19 CPFC

Excellent. GE incoming.

This entire debacle has had more J-turns than a Vauxhall Nova.

Corbyn has nowhere left to wriggle.
Now he has to pretend he is up for it.

Watch him try and shift the emphasis away from Brexit and their shameful behaviour in denying the will of the people.
Stand by for some laughable claims that we are living in a Dikensian Britain.
Ironically, EU rule will probably help us create more poverty with suppressed wages via freedom of movement and poor living conditions through overcrowding.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (29 Oct 2019 11.44am)

W12 29 Oct 19 11.52am
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger Corbyn has nowhere left to wriggle. Now he has to pretend he is up for it. Watch him try and shift the emphasis away from Brexit and their shameful behaviour in denying the will of the people. Stand by for some laughable claims that we are living in a Dikensian Britain. Ironically, EU rule will probably help us create more poverty with suppressed wages via freedom of movement and poor living conditions through overcrowding. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (29 Oct 2019 11.44am) It's not rocket science is it. Look at every "socialist paradise" in the world. As a great example look at what the Democrats are doing to extremely wealthy places like New York, Los Angeles, San Francisco and the like. Even Democrat voting people are trying to escape in their droves (to "red states" i.e. Republican run) from the crime, filth, disease and high taxes directly caused by socialist policies.

W12 29 Oct 19 11.52am

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Corbyn has nowhere left to wriggle.
Now he has to pretend he is up for it.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (29 Oct 2019 11.44am)

It's not rocket science is it. Look at every "socialist paradise" in the world.

As a great example look at what the Democrats are doing to extremely wealthy places like New York, Los Angeles, San Francisco and the like. Even Democrat voting people are trying to escape in their droves (to "red states" i.e. Republican run) from the crime, filth, disease and high taxes directly caused by socialist policies.

Matov 29 Oct 19 12.08pm
Thank goodness we finally have a semblance of normal Government. Oppositions are meant to want elections. To push their chance to form a Government. Labour sounded desperate last night with one of their people claiming that a December election might be unfair because students would not have time to register and would be distracted by parties. And got rather shirty when challenged on how ludicrous that was. LOL. But it looks like they fiddled around in Abbot's handbag and found old JC's balls. Part of me actually thinks a JC led Government would be worth it for the lolz. That it might actually shake up the tree a bit. But be careful what you wish for fatboy! More than likely end up with me in a 're-eductation' camp up in Wales. Still, the sing-songs will be a laugh and I reckon I would be a right c*** of a prisoner. Annoy the hell out of the guards and stuff. "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

Matov

29 Oct 19 12.08pm

Thank goodness we finally have a semblance of normal Government. Oppositions are meant to want elections. To push their chance to form a Government.

Labour sounded desperate last night with one of their people claiming that a December election might be unfair because students would not have time to register and would be distracted by parties. And got rather shirty when challenged on how ludicrous that was. LOL.

But it looks like they fiddled around in Abbot's handbag and found old JC's balls.

Part of me actually thinks a JC led Government would be worth it for the lolz. That it might actually shake up the tree a bit.

But be careful what you wish for fatboy! More than likely end up with me in a 're-eductation' camp up in Wales. Still, the sing-songs will be a laugh and I reckon I would be a right c*** of a prisoner. Annoy the hell out of the guards and stuff.

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

bright&wright 29 Oct 19 12.23pm
Can't see how any British soldier could serve under a Corbyn led government. 'We are going to make a little bit of history here’ Mr. J. Ertl.

bright&wright

29 Oct 19 12.23pm

Can't see how any British soldier could serve under a Corbyn led government.

'We are going to make a little bit of history here’ Mr. J. Ertl.

Matov 29 Oct 19 12.32pm
Bright&wright Can't see how any British soldier could serve under a Corbyn led government. They will serve because they are loyal to the Queen and she would have appointed him. But let's worry about that when it happens. Ditto with the police. Don't get me wrong, I distrust the Marxist scum-bag as much as the next right rational thinking person but we have a system with checks and balances in place and if he wins an election then as much as it might sicken us, he has to be given a chance to govern. To start disputing that makes us bad as the second referendum crowd. Democracy is democracy. If he can form a functioning Government even by a single vote then that is how it is. Edited by Matov (29 Oct 2019 12.32pm) Edited by Matov (29 Oct 2019 12.34pm) "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

Matov

29 Oct 19 12.32pm

Bright&wright

Can't see how any British soldier could serve under a Corbyn led government.

They will serve because they are loyal to the Queen and she would have appointed him. But let's worry about that when it happens. Ditto with the police. Don't get me wrong, I distrust the Marxist scum-bag as much as the next right rational thinking person but we have a system with checks and balances in place and if he wins an election then as much as it might sicken us, he has to be given a chance to govern.

To start disputing that makes us bad as the second referendum crowd. Democracy is democracy. If he can form a functioning Government even by a single vote then that is how it is.

Edited by Matov (29 Oct 2019 12.32pm)

Edited by Matov (29 Oct 2019 12.34pm)

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

steeleye20 Croydon 29 Oct 19 12.58pm
[quote=bright&wright;3484717] Can't see how any British soldier could serve under a Corbyn led government. On the contrary there will be a drive to improve numbers under Corbyn. The present privatised recruitment has been a disaster people are not motivated to join by the owners of 'dinkin donuts' or Domino pizzas.

steeleye20

Croydon 29 Oct 19 12.58pm

[quote=bright&wright;3484717]

Can't see how any British soldier could serve under a Corbyn led government.

On the contrary there will be a drive to improve numbers under Corbyn.

The present privatised recruitment has been a disaster people are not motivated to join by the owners of 'dinkin donuts' or Domino pizzas.

Hrolf The Ganger 29 Oct 19 1.17pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 On the contrary there will be a drive to improve numbers under Corbyn. The present privatised recruitment has been a disaster people are not motivated to join by the owners of 'dinkin donuts' or Domino pizzas. This election will be about Brexit. Vote Tory to get Brexit done. Vote Liberal to cancel Brexit. Voting Labour will mean another pointless referendum and potentially, years more feuding about Brexit and the undermining of our democracy. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (29 Oct 2019 1.18pm)

Hrolf The Ganger

29 Oct 19 1.17pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

On the contrary there will be a drive to improve numbers under Corbyn.

The present privatised recruitment has been a disaster people are not motivated to join by the owners of 'dinkin donuts' or Domino pizzas.

This election will be about Brexit.
Vote Tory to get Brexit done.
Vote Liberal to cancel Brexit.

Voting Labour will mean another pointless referendum and potentially, years more feuding about Brexit and the undermining of our democracy.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (29 Oct 2019 1.18pm)

DanH SW2 29 Oct 19 1.21pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger This election will be about Brexit. Vote Tory to get Brexit done. Vote Liberal to cancel Brexit. Voting Labour will mean another pointless referendum and potentially, years more feuding about Brexit and the undermining of our democracy. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (29 Oct 2019 1.18pm) Spoken like a true brainwashed BoJo lemming.

DanH

SW2 29 Oct 19 1.21pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

This election will be about Brexit.
Vote Tory to get Brexit done.
Vote Liberal to cancel Brexit.

Voting Labour will mean another pointless referendum and potentially, years more feuding about Brexit and the undermining of our democracy.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (29 Oct 2019 1.18pm)

Spoken like a true brainwashed BoJo lemming.

Matov 29 Oct 19 1.29pm
Back Brexit? Back Boris. This stuff is simple to write. Remain is Revoke. Vote Lib Dem Not quite as a catchy but still concise. A second referendum, which wont be binding but we really, really promise this time to honour it, especially if you all vote Remain but we will still offer Leavers a valid alternative even if our own people negotiating it won't be voting for it but this is how democracy is MEANT to work, not like that silliness on June 23rd so please, please vote for Jezza because you like him and sing his name at pop concerts Needs a little work, I concede. Edited by Matov (29 Oct 2019 1.30pm) "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

Matov

29 Oct 19 1.29pm

Back Brexit?
Back Boris.

This stuff is simple to write.

Remain is Revoke. Vote Lib Dem

Not quite as a catchy but still concise.

A second referendum, which wont be binding but we really, really promise this time to honour it, especially if you all vote Remain but we will still offer Leavers a valid alternative even if our own people negotiating it won't be voting for it but this is how democracy is MEANT to work, not like that silliness on June 23rd so please, please vote for Jezza because you like him and sing his name at pop concerts

Needs a little work, I concede.

Edited by Matov (29 Oct 2019 1.30pm)

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

Hrolf The Ganger 29 Oct 19 1.38pm
Originally posted by DanH Spoken like a true brainwashed BoJo lemming. It was written not spoken, and it was the truth. If you want Brexit finally done like the people voted for then you need to vote Tory. Are you disputing that?

Hrolf The Ganger

29 Oct 19 1.38pm

Originally posted by DanH

Spoken like a true brainwashed BoJo lemming.

It was written not spoken, and it was the truth.

If you want Brexit finally done like the people voted for then you need to vote Tory.

Are you disputing that?

DANGERCLOSE London 29 Oct 19 1.44pm
The turkeys have finally agreed that they can't avoid the Christmas dinner table forever. Corbyn will be sacked by Christmas. The Tories and Brexit Party combined, will annihilate Labour, Lib Dems and SNP, who will each suffer devastating and humiliating losses. Another wonderful outcome is that there'll be no Bercow, no more Speaker, scheming and plotting against the people.

DANGERCLOSE

London 29 Oct 19 1.44pm

The turkeys have finally agreed that they can't avoid the Christmas dinner table forever. Corbyn will be sacked by Christmas. The Tories and Brexit Party combined, will annihilate Labour, Lib Dems and SNP, who will each suffer devastating and humiliating losses. Another wonderful outcome is that there'll be no Bercow, no more Speaker, scheming and plotting against the people.

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