People like you really don't "get it" do you?

I saw some extremely weird people celebrating on Friday evening but I understood why, even though I profoundly disagree with them and think their reaction juvenile, and rather pathetic.

I wouldn't have joined a wake for Brexit myself but some people, with every much passion for our membership of the EU as those who wanted us out, obviously felt strongly enough to express their sadness in this way.

It's not bitterness at all. It's a genuine feeling of loss and of something happening that ought to have been avoided.

They had every bit as much right to express those emotions as those who were celebrating.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Uncorroborated assertions deserve criticism.

I have provided corroboration. Unless you too need to be present at the lunch when this was said before you are prepared to believe anything I say then that ought to be good enough. If it isn't there is nothing more I can do.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Ok I get their disappointment but it just seems a bit over the top having a candlelit vigil. Leaving the EU is hardly worth getting upset over and I highly doubt it's going to make much difference to their lives. It will probably improve it the EU is in freefall and we are best out of it.

That's me done so no need to reply.

Have to say the “people like you” comment does you no favours.

I suppose the ultimate irony here (well 2) is that you claim to be tolerant, yet insult anyone who doesn’t agree with you.

Yet that isn’t the most damning,

For all the insults you lay towards Trump (blinkered, uneducated, intolerant, dogmatism) you are guilty of exactly the same thing.

Both bigoted, both dogmatic and both believing everyone should bow down to their superior knowledge. Granted you may be slightly more sophisticated than Trump, but the pair if you don’t half spout b****** as fact and insult those who don’t agree.

His rations have been reduced.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Boris implied that the UK will grant annual licences to the EU for fishing but only the government has agreed with our fisherman.

Sounds reasonable to me if there are plenty of fish and not enough UK trawlers then sure we can offer the EU a share. However our fishermen come first and only then do we consider the EU.

One more point

Agreed

Farage will make sure he does

Good question. All a bit puzzling so far because both sides seem to be setting themselves up for a fall before any progress can be made.

As I see it, Barnier is on more fragile ground because whilst he does come across well, he has far more pressure behind him. Johnson is fresh off the back of a remarkable election win, a huge majority and essentially can do what he wants. Barnier, for all his bluster, is only representing one part of the EU and is subject to far more potential slings and arrows.

Suspect that much of this at the moment is about trying to protect Varadkar who is in the middle of an election campaign and any sign that he might not be able to protect Irelands agricultural exports to the UK plays BADLY for him.

Also a lot of it is the usual bluster but even so, this seems a lot more heated than I would have expected. One side has to back down significantly before they can even sit down at the table.

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

The only corroboration you have provided is your statement, so we must take your word for it.... fine but how many times have yyrefused to take the word of other posters on here when it doesn’t suit your agenda?