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Mstrobez Flag 29 Jun 21 3.07pm

Originally posted by doombear


Thanks. Nice to see I'm not the only one who thinks this.

If you go through the comments section on the Athletic right now and have a butch you'll see you're not.

I'd be lying if I said this appointment is ideal. But in the current circumstances, it could be a hell of a lot worse. And I'm glad we're giving someone like Vieira a chance.

 


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HolmesdaleUpper Flag Sanderstead 29 Jun 21 3.09pm

De Boar Mark II, a positive is that Allardyce will be back by end of October.

 

ex hibitionist Flag Hastings 29 Jun 21 3.10pm

a Guardian article on his time at Nice - interesting reading but it does not exactly fill one with optimism, the appointment has a bit of an FDB feel to it though I think Viera will be pragmatic whereas FDB was a bit theoretical - so let's give the guy a chance ...

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Mwncisee Flag Middlesbrough 29 Jun 21 3.11pm

Of course I will support Palace. But if true this appointment is very underwhelming. A high risk appointment and will have to do something impressive very quickly to win the fans round.

Faith in Parish somewhat eroded.

 

Terry Ven Flag 29 Jun 21 3.14pm

Oh blimey, I've got a bit of a bad feeling about this

 

doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 29 Jun 21 3.17pm

Originally posted by HolmesdaleUpper

De Boar Mark II, a positive is that Allardyce will be back by end of October.


I know he may look like a wild animal but that's no reason to call him one.

As for Allardyce, I don't want him anywhere near Palace. We need to move on from fire-fighting managers.

 

Frickin Saweet Flag South Cronx 29 Jun 21 3.17pm

Originally posted by Terry Ven

Oh blimey, I've got a bit of a bad feeling about this

it's ok it's easy to sack this type of risky manager after a few weeks if it doesn't work out, and we'll have plenty of time in the season left to find an overpaid mercenary to see us alright.

In all seriousness, I'm open-minded about it. He might turn out to be great, he's certainly worked very closely with some of the best managers of their time.

If it all turns out to be true of course.

 

Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 29 Jun 21 3.18pm

Originally posted by Frickin Saweet

it's ok it's easy to sack this type of risky manager after a few weeks if it doesn't work out, and we'll have plenty of time in the season left to find an overpaid mercenary to see us alright.

In all seriousness, I'm open-minded about it. He might turn out to be great, he's certainly worked very closely with some of the best managers of their time.

If it all turns out to be true of course.

 

ThatPetrolRelation Flag Ottawa 29 Jun 21 3.18pm

I hope he works out, and he's more of a wildcard than the other likely candidates. And I think he'd be better at sealing the deal with some transfers than the other guys. Being French is probably also a plus for recruitment beyond the usual suspects.

He won't be here long regardless --if he doesn't do well then there will be immediate calls for his head.

If he does well then other clubs will start sniffing around. I hope he does so well we are all pissed he's been poached by a big club!


 

Helmet46 Flag Croydon 29 Jun 21 3.20pm

Hmmm. Open minded. Better stats than Freedman, Southgate and Coleman. However, first and foremost and if the documentary is anything to go by - SP is a Palace fan. (He says, living in hope).

Edited by Helmet46 (29 Jun 2021 3.23pm)

 

eagleman13 Flag On The Road To Hell & Alicante 29 Jun 21 3.22pm

Originally posted by Cucking Funt

I'm going to be controversial and say that I don't believe it. I think it's complete bollocks.

Agreed, tho, 'IF' its true, is this a box-ticking exercise by SP? I mean, he IS a PR man, CPFC only EPL club to currently have a foreign black manager?

 


This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.

Mstrobez Flag 29 Jun 21 3.30pm

Originally posted by eagleman13

Agreed, tho, 'IF' its true, is this a box-ticking exercise by SP? I mean, he IS a PR man, CPFC only EPL club to currently have a foreign black manager?

No and can we please, please, please not make the colour of his skin a feature of his time at Palace. They've already started with that theme on Twitter & the BBS.

He is our manager. That's what he'll be judged on. The colour of his skin is irrelevant

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards SW19 CPFC Flag Addiscombe West 29 Jun 21 3.33pm

Originally posted by eagleman13

Agreed, tho, 'IF' its true, is this a box-ticking exercise by SP? I mean, he IS a PR man, CPFC only EPL club to currently have a foreign black manager?

f*** me

Seriously?

 


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Painter Flag Croydon 29 Jun 21 3.34pm

Originally posted by eagleman13

Agreed, tho, 'IF' its true, is this a box-ticking exercise by SP? I mean, he IS a PR man, CPFC only EPL club to currently have a foreign black manager?

We haven’t a manager yet. You really think colour is a deciding factor. Then there is no hope for you.

 

manwitheagletattoo Flag Somewhere in England 29 Jun 21 3.34pm

Originally posted by sydtheeagle

If it is Vieira, and it's a big if at this point, why say it's a "huge recruitment mistake"? Any manager we hire could turn out to be that, regardless of his experience. The most popular manager hires of recent years with supporters were probably Taylor and Pardew. Both came with some pedigree. Both were disastrous managers at Palace. So calling a potential new manager a "huge recruitment mistake" before he's even arrived is at best hugely negative (I guess you're a Palace fan because the word "supporter" certainly doesn't fit you) and at worst plain stupid.

On the evidence, Vieira would be a reasonable hire. He's become a manager the "right" way, starting with two years at arguably the best academy in the country (I prefer that route to the "retire and jump straight into the Premiership" approach, personally), then gone on to three years in the states (roughly equivalent to learning the job at a Championship level) where his teams improved every season, ending up second overall in his final year. He went to Nice where his team finished one place better than they had the previous season when they were managed by guess who? Lucien Favre. Sure, he was fired the next year after a losing streak but show me a manager who hasn't been fired once or twice in his career? There aren't many. Vieira may not have pulled up any trees early in his managerial career but he's certainly shown a solid pedigree. Enough to warrant a chance.

Other pluses? He knows English football and the Premier League. You have to think, particularly via Man City and maybe Arsenal too that he has excellent contacts in the game. My guess is that most of our players grew up watching him and most likely respect him. He's won just about everything there is to win in the game. And he's ambitious. I doubt Vieira's vision is to "just stay up" although ambitions may sometimes come at a price. Lastly, what are our other options at this point? Not many who want to come to Palace and are credible candidates unless you want Steve Cooper.

Is Vieira my ideal hire? Probably not. But particularly given the situation in which we find ourselves, is he a bad hire? Definitely not. He's a career winner with decent managerial pedigree who's probably ready for his first really high profile job. He'll command the respect of the dressing room on day one.

If Vieira comes and you think he represents a "huge recruitment mistake" I really do wonder what you're looking for (realistically) in a Palace manager, cos we ain't getting Klopp or Guardiola or, for that matter, Nuno or Lampard.

Edited by sydtheeagle (29 Jun 2021 2.05pm)

Totally agree, I think only a few of us knew Favre before his name was mentioned and to be honest at 63 I would have thought that if he had signed he would possible have retired when his 3 yrs contract was up with us. In Vieira case I honestly think this is a fantastic signing for us a young manager at 45 new ideas, approach hopefully we will see attacking well organised football. It will be interesting to see who he will appoint as his assistant. I do wonder if this appointment will keep Zaha happy.

Edited by manwitheagletattoo (29 Jun 2021 3.35pm)

 


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kev64 Flag Cambs 29 Jun 21 3.36pm

Originally posted by eagleman13

Agreed, tho, 'IF' its true, is this a box-ticking exercise by SP? I mean, he IS a PR man, CPFC only EPL club to currently have a foreign black manager?

Absolutely SP hires a manager based on ethnicity to tick a box .. ffs

Why is this even an issue to be brought up in 2021. If he’s a good manager then he’s a good manager if he’s s*** he’s s*** .. tbh don’t believe a word of it ..

 

eagleman13 Flag On The Road To Hell & Alicante 29 Jun 21 3.37pm

Originally posted by Mstrobez

No and can we please, please, please not make the colour of his skin a feature of his time at Palace. They've already started with that theme on Twitter & the BBS.

He is our manager. That's what he'll be judged on. The colour of his skin is irrelevant

I actually agree with you, BUT, & it will be covered & mentioned especially by the bbc/sky. They will may even end up liking us. I'm with CF on this, bollox click bait

Oh dear, snowflake alert

Edited by eagleman13 (29 Jun 2021 3.41pm)

 


This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.

TheBigToePunt Flag 29 Jun 21 3.38pm

If it comes off then I'll be happy enough with Vieira. He wasn't my first choice but to be fair I didn't have a first choice. Each alleged candidate had strengths and weaknesses.

Parish talked about getting someone to win games whilst developing youth, and the press said Palace preferred someone with Premier league experience. I personally placed significant weight on the hunger of the new man to succeed.

I didn't want someone like Benitez who had such a good media image that he could afford to f*** it up at Palace and not have his career damaged. I want someone who needs to succeed at Palace. That was the attraction of Ishmael and Cooper for me, and I quite like that the jury is out on Vieira as a manager and he has to prove himself.

He has done an apprenticeship rather than trade on his status, which is vital, but remains unproven, which suits Palace. He knows the league, the culture, the language etc, and has worked with youth players at City, as well as seeing a small army of promising youngsters try but fail to make it at arsenal in his playing days, so should have seen both sides of that particular coin.

All in all, he's a perfectly good candidate and if he's hungry for the job then that probably moves him above Nuno and Favre, neither of whom were.

 

Frickin Saweet Flag South Cronx 29 Jun 21 3.40pm

Originally posted by Mstrobez

No and can we please, please, please not make the colour of his skin a feature of his time at Palace. They've already started with that theme on Twitter & the BBS.

He is our manager. That's what he'll be judged on. The colour of his skin is irrelevant

aren't all Prem or Football League clubs required to interview a black, asian or minority ethnic candidate for every managerial role? That means they'd have had to sought out a manager to fulfil the requirement so he could only have been on our radar initially because of this

 

Knightstar Flag Guildford 29 Jun 21 3.46pm

Not to worry, if it doesn't work out, because FDB has just become available!

 

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