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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

The England team or the Liverpool team?

Neither of those teams were the right set of players. If anything the one thing both of those teams needed above all else was defensive solidity.

Liverpool was in freefall when Hodgson took over there and he didnít do any worse than "king Kenny" after him. He was brought in during very difficult circumstances with chaos behind the scenes and the ownership changing. Moreover, he wasnít even given 6 months. Anyone judging Roy hard on his Liverpool tenure is being unbelievably harsh, IMO.

Of course, England can be more accurately described as a disaster due to the Iceland but, still, that squad was nowhere near the standard required to win a major tournament. And he should still be credited with giving a number of young players their debuts during his period (including Wilf) - many of whom are still regular fixtures in the national side today.

At Fulham he certainly demonstrated a willingness to progress the football when given a budget to build the team. Same can be said of his time at Blackburn and when he had the tools at his disposal here, we played very good stuff under Roy.

Iím sure many would argue that Dyche has only worked with what heís had at his disposal in the same way Roy did with us. And he may well play different football if backed with investment. The problem is, whilst it could turn out to be true, unlike with Roy, we donít have any evidence to suggest that would be the case. And whilst he was never really given money at Burnley, on the occasions he has been, the signings he has made would suggest he doesnít want to deviate from what he does.

Sean Dyche is an excellent manager. What heís achieved at Burnley has been remarkable. He deserves all the plaudits he gets for it. But Iíll reiterate - pushing Roy out the door, after everything he achieved at the club, with no investment, on footballing grounds, only to bring in Sean Dyche, would be unnecessary and bizarre on a level that evades even us.

I was firmly in the Roy in camp. For me he earned this summers investment. But we are where we are. Itís just when I watch people who relentlessly called for his head only to rally behind Sean Dyche, I have to push back against that. It would make no sense whatsoever.


Edited by Mstrobez (11 Jun 2021 6.21pm)

 


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View Plaistow Eagle's Profile Plaistow Eagle Flag 11 Jun 21 8.03pm Send a Private Message to Plaistow Eagle Add Plaistow Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Mstrobez

Neither of those teams were the right set of players. If anything the one thing both of those teams needed above all else was defensive solidity.

Liverpool was in freefall when Hodgson took over there and he didnít do any worse than "king Kenny" after him. He was brought in during very difficult circumstances with chaos behind the scenes and the ownership changing. Moreover, he wasnít even given 6 months. Anyone judging Roy hard on his Liverpool tenure is being unbelievably harsh, IMO.

Of course, England can be more accurately described as a disaster due to the Iceland but, still, that squad was nowhere near the standard required to win a major tournament. And he should still be credited with giving a number of young players their debuts during his period (including Wilf) - many of whom are still regular fixtures in the national side today.

At Fulham he certainly demonstrated a willingness to progress the football when given a budget to build the team. Same can be said of his time at Blackburn and when he had the tools at his disposal here, we played very good stuff under Roy.

Iím sure many would argue that Dyche has only worked with what heís had at his disposal in the same way Roy did with us. And he may well play different football if backed with investment. The problem is, whilst it could turn out to be true, unlike with Roy, we donít have any evidence to suggest that would be the case. And whilst he was never really given money at Burnley, on the occasions he has been, the signings he has made would suggest he doesnít want to deviate from what he does.

Sean Dyche is an excellent manager. What heís achieved at Burnley has been remarkable. He deserves all the plaudits he gets for it. But Iíll reiterate - pushing Roy out the door, after everything he achieved at the club, with no investment, on footballing grounds, only to bring in Sean Dyche, would be unnecessary and bizarre on a level that evades even us.

I was firmly in the Roy in camp. For me he earned this summers investment. But we are where we are. Itís just when I watch people who relentlessly called for his head only to rally behind Sean Dyche, I have to push back against that. It would make no sense whatsoever.


Edited by Mstrobez (11 Jun 2021 6.21pm)

Mate think you need to take those ďRoy Rose coloured glassesĒ off..!!

This is the same Roy who inexplicably put Harry Kane on corner taking duties..!!

I agree we werenít probably good enough to win the tournament but we were certainly good enough to get out of the last 16 stage - which culminated in probably the worst England performance in my memory against Iceland..!!

After which Roy resigned - and then famously questioned why he should have to face the media to answer any questions on our poor performance - as he had already resigned..!!

IMO Dyche would be a significant step up from Roy - if nothing else at least heíll take responsibility for his own actions unlike Roy..!!

COYP

 

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Who pushed Roy out ? He has said in interviews many times since it was HIS decision.

 

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View redandblue4life's Profile redandblue4life Flag Auckland city ! 11 Jun 21 9.32pm Send a Private Message to redandblue4life Add redandblue4life as a friend

Itís all getting very embarrassing now !!! Get it sorted Mr Parish it needs to be someone with Premier League experience also !!!

 

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View Mwncisee's Profile Mwncisee Flag Middlesbrough 11 Jun 21 10.02pm Send a Private Message to Mwncisee Add Mwncisee as a friend

Don't be silly. We only have to wait another 97 days until we appoint a manager to beat Celtic's recent record!

Originally posted by redandblue4life

Itís all getting very embarrassing now !!! Get it sorted Mr Parish it needs to be someone with Premier League experience also !!!

 

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View kev64's Profile kev64 Flag Cambs 11 Jun 21 10.54pm Send a Private Message to kev64 Add kev64 as a friend

Originally posted by redandblue4life

Itís all getting very embarrassing now !!! Get it sorted Mr Parish it needs to be someone with Premier League experience also !!!

Like Everton and Spurs, get it sorted , Just look around see who is really available? Eddie Howe, Frankie nope , Rafa definitely nope, Nuno we tried he demanded the world .. leaves big Sam

 

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View Hootie121082's Profile Hootie121082 Flag Paralimni 11 Jun 21 11.10pm Send a Private Message to Hootie121082 Add Hootie121082 as a friend

A lot of names have been mentioned to be in the running but who really is in the know? Cooper is interested...is he really? Who says? Lampard was in talks...was he really? How do we really know? Was one of you guys in the meeting with him and Parish....I doubt it very much.
The only reason that the names mentioned have been mentioned is because they are out of work or got a very average squad into the playoffs so are likely candidates. Who's to say that Paulo Fonseca hasn't been talks? Yet he has barely been mentioned on this post.
For all we know we're gonna end up with some manager from Japan like Celtic have done. Howe was the man to take over at Celtic but they end up with Ange Postecoglou. No one saw that coming. I have a feeling we will all be very surprised and shocked when a manager is announced. Maybe some guy from Czech Republic or Romanaia. Who knows. Time will tell

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View HKOwen's Profile HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 11 Jun 21 11.37pm Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

The Howe factor again.

Agreed with us supposedly then went to Burnley, supposedly agreed with Celtic then didn't arrive there either.

Originally posted by Mwncisee

Don't be silly. We only have to wait another 97 days until we appoint a manager to beat Celtic's recent record!

 


Let's see SP and the board trying to line up for a piss in the AW toilets at half time before peddling the new stand. We're the Arthur over here and the facilities are a disgrace

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View Therealeaglestilidie's Profile Therealeaglestilidie Flag 12 Jun 21 8.05am Send a Private Message to Therealeaglestilidie Add Therealeaglestilidie as a friend

What has happened to Chris Wilder.

Doesn't get a mention but is available.

 


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View ex hibitionist's Profile ex hibitionist Flag Hastings 12 Jun 21 9.23am Send a Private Message to ex hibitionist Add ex hibitionist as a friend

Originally posted by Therealeaglestilidie

What has happened to Chris Wilder.

Doesn't get a mention but is available.

we are considering inferior options imho, not sure I can see Dougie picking players to play for him though

 

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View Mwncisee's Profile Mwncisee Flag Middlesbrough 12 Jun 21 9.32am Send a Private Message to Mwncisee Add Mwncisee as a friend

I do agree in that I am suprised Wilder has not been in the mix. He is worthy of at the very least being considered.

 

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Originally posted by Mwncisee

I do agree in that I am suprised Wilder has not been in the mix. He is worthy of at the very least being considered.

According to the media Wilder was going to West Brom but it seems that their chairman refused to have him there so there is obviously something going on that we don't know about.

 

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