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 Midlands Eagle  28 May 19 6.08pm |
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Originally posted by Maine Eagle
So lads, you want a no deal "WTO" exit. Does anyone understand what the really, really means? If you are advocating for it, enlighten me about what it means, how we get there, and why its better than the current trading setup. The current trading option isn't available as a stand alone. A WTO exit is only a starting point as we would be negotiating our own trading deals too and they would be deals that suit us and not France or Germany. Once we are out the EU would be keen to discuss trading with us anyway as both French and German car manufacturers won't want 10% tariffs on their cars here and that's just for starters
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| Mapletree Croydon 28 May 19 6.23pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
You present two weak arguments here. Nice to see you labelling with 'populist' Maple. Sadly, you aren't getting this. I have not labelled anyone populist, I have stated that arguments made were populist. As you know I do not favour the labelling of people. For your enlightenment: Populism refers to a range of political stances that emphasise the idea of "the people" and often juxtapose this group against "the elite". You complete numpty
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| Maine Eagle USA 28 May 19 6.47pm |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
The current trading option isn't available as a stand alone. A WTO exit is only a starting point as we would be negotiating our own trading deals too and they would be deals that suit us and not France or Germany. Once we are out the EU would be keen to discuss trading with us anyway as both French and German car manufacturers won't want 10% tariffs on their cars here and that's just for starters The former head of the WTO, doesnt seem to align with your views here, Midlands Eagle. Granted, he may have ulterior motives to criticize a no deal exit, but even having said that, as the former head of the WTO, I guess he knows his s*** when it comes to trade.
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cpfc_chap  koh samui 28 May 19 7.57pm |
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Originally posted by Maine Eagle
The former head of the WTO, doesnt seem to align with your views here, Midlands Eagle. Granted, he may have ulterior motives to criticize a no deal exit, but even having said that, as the former head of the WTO, I guess he knows his s*** when it comes to trade. Being an ex EU employee as such sure he's gonna say it'll be disastrous! The bloc will suffer without our contributions more scare mongering.
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| Stirlingsays 28 May 19 8.01pm |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
Sadly, you aren't getting this. I have not labelled anyone populist, I have stated that arguments made were populist. As you know I do not favour the labelling of people. For your enlightenment: Populism refers to a range of political stances that emphasise the idea of "the people" and often juxtapose this group against "the elite". You complete numpty Welcome back.
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| Maine Eagle USA 28 May 19 8.13pm |
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Originally posted by cpfc_chap
Being an ex EU employee as such sure he's gonna say it'll be disastrous! The bloc will suffer without our contributions more scare mongering. Ok but then why would the head of the national farmers union, the head of jaguar, the boss of airbus, the head of the food and drink federation, virtually every single importer, the head of the national sheep association, Dover customs clearance agents, heads of cargo companies, bosses of airports, freight companies, police and anti terror agencies, director of the Francis crick institute, Northern Ireland police, the head of DHL, the association of British insurers, the boss of John Lewis, the chancellor of the exchequer, the head of the IMF and WTO, many government ministers, the Brexit health alliance, the governor of the Bank of England, the head of Nissan, to name but a few, state that a no deal exit would be catastrophic? Meanwhile the boss of weatherspoons thinks it’s a great idea.
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| Stirlingsays 28 May 19 8.15pm |
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Remain was and is the preference for the large majority of middle class......they want things to remain just as they are because it benefits them....mostly the nimby types. Leave is the preference for large majority of working class and those middle class who remember where they came from.
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| Maine Eagle USA 28 May 19 8.53pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Remain was and is the preference for the large majority of middle class......they want things to remain just as they are because it benefits them....mostly the nimby types. Leave is the preference for large majority of working class and those middle class who remember where they came from. Because they think it will make them happier, more wealthy, healthier and generally make their lives better. It wont.
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| Badger11 Beckenham 28 May 19 8.55pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Remain was and is the preference for the large majority of middle class......they want things to remain just as they are because it benefits them....mostly the nimby types. Leave is the preference for large majority of working class and those middle class who remember where they came from. But that is not an option, there is no status quo. The EU is pushing ahead with further plans for integration just look at their official website. Macron actually wants us out because he sees the UK as an anchor dragging back progress so he wants to cut the chain. If you believe in the EU and its stated aims then vote Remain. If you just want things to remain the same I'm afraid that option is not available unless the EU does a complete 180 which is unlikely. Sooner or later if we stay we will have to face this reality either we embrace the EU or we leave. Eventually they will have had enough of our opt outs, exceptions and rebates and will demand this of us. I wish the Remain politicians would be more honest about this and put the case for being a fully paid up member at the centre of decision making rather than the reluctant wallflower we currently are.
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| Stirlingsays 28 May 19 8.57pm |
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Originally posted by Maine Eagle
Because they think it will make them happier, more wealthy, healthier and generally make their lives better. It wont. You just don't get it Maine, you just don't get it.
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| Spiderman Horsham 28 May 19 9.23pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
As I always believed that the EU election result would be meaningless in terms of any impact on Brexit I have stayed away from the instant analysis. I guess the only real benefit might be to those who try to analyse voting trends in the various regions. I do though follow Louise Mensch on Twitter who is, among many other things, a committed Brexiteer. She posted this, which I thought sufficiently interesting to share here:- "So it’s another woeful performance for @Nigel_Farage. Brexit Party IS UKIP, yet even with Tories in chaos he only picked up an extra 5 seats. Cons have 4, not none. Remain beat Brexit overall. Forget the hot takes. That’s a very bad result for Farage under these circumstances." From a Brexiteer I think that is quite insightful. But surely it's all meaningless! so your post is irrelevant
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| Spiderman Horsham 28 May 19 9.32pm |
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Originally posted by Maine Eagle
Because they think it will make them happier, more wealthy, healthier and generally make their lives better. It wont. Prove it
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