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sydtheeagle Flag England 01 Jul 21 1.39pm

Originally posted by Putitout


Considering the profile of some of the out of contract players none have made much noise about their situations, in fact those that have, Townsend, Ward, seem totally relaxed about the situation. Townsend, only yesterday, said . “In ten hours I will NOT be a Palace, player”. He said. “I have some interesting offers, and will talk to some next week, along with Palace”. It sounds as if it remains very much an open book. It’s not uncommon to resign a player originally told they could leave, but this all seems to be on an industrial scale. If that’s what is to happen.

People need to grasp that when a player's contract runs down, it is not indicative of whether or not he will remain at the club. It simply tells us that re-signing him is not a top priority, or that the player perhaps thinks he is worth more than the club does.

Quite likely Palace may have said to Andros "we definitely want to keep you, but not at £70k a week (or whatever he's paid)". Andros replies "I can get £80k somewhere else" to which we reply ok, we'll let your contract end and you can test the market. When you've got a firm offer let us know and we'll see if we can work something out". It's a way of letting market forces, rather than agent demands, determine a player's value.

It may be that we want all ten out-of-contract players back (or the new manager does) but by letting their contracts run down in a pandemic environment once they've become free agents and without many big offers out there now, we can re-sign all of them for far less than they were on before. That's the up-side of the situation. As for Benteke, we nailed him down simply because proven goalscoring centre forwards who are in form are the hardest thing to find so it was doing the early deal. Players like, say, McCarthy or Schlupp are a dime-a-dozen; at least a bit more easily replaced.

My guess is that of those ten players, we'll keep all, or close to all, of the ones we want to keep most likely on more favourable (to the club) terms than before. I'm totally relaxed about the contract situation; it's a storm in a teacup for the media but largely meaningless for the club.

 


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TheBigToePunt Flag 01 Jul 21 2.22pm

Originally posted by sydtheeagle

People need to grasp that when a player's contract runs down, it is not indicative of whether or not he will remain at the club. It simply tells us that re-signing him is not a top priority, or that the player perhaps thinks he is worth more than the club does.

Quite likely Palace may have said to Andros "we definitely want to keep you, but not at £70k a week (or whatever he's paid)". Andros replies "I can get £80k somewhere else" to which we reply ok, we'll let your contract end and you can test the market. When you've got a firm offer let us know and we'll see if we can work something out". It's a way of letting market forces, rather than agent demands, determine a player's value.

It may be that we want all ten out-of-contract players back (or the new manager does) but by letting their contracts run down in a pandemic environment once they've become free agents and without many big offers out there now, we can re-sign all of them for far less than they were on before. That's the up-side of the situation. As for Benteke, we nailed him down simply because proven goalscoring centre forwards who are in form are the hardest thing to find so it was doing the early deal. Players like, say, McCarthy or Schlupp are a dime-a-dozen; at least a bit more easily replaced.

My guess is that of those ten players, we'll keep all, or close to all, of the ones we want to keep most likely on more favourable (to the club) terms than before. I'm totally relaxed about the contract situation; it's a storm in a teacup for the media but largely meaningless for the club.

I think you're right. The official 'released' list contains 22 players. Remove Hennesey and Henderson from consideration (though the club may ask Henderson to stay), and we might lose the following first team players:

Cahill, Clyne, Dann, McCarthy, Sakho, Townsend, Van Aanholt, Ward, and Wickham.

PvA apparently wanted to leave. Injury prevented Sakho, Wickham and McCarthy from contributing very much last year, so we've been getting by without them anyway.

Townsend is probably the only one on the list who could even possibly get a better offer elsewhere, everyone else will be lucky to get the same or reduced terms from us.

Signing new players is, firstly, far more important than keeping any of the above and, secondly, will dictate whether we need to re-sign any of them. For example - If we can get two new centre-halves then I'd offer Chaill one year as cover, if that. If we can only get one centre half then Cahill becomes essential and it might be wise to offer a deal to Dann as well.

Our negotiations with the out of contract players will be heavily influenced by the new manager's preferences of course, but his preferences will surely be heavily influenced by who else we might be able to sign.

Even if the new man starts work Monday morning, I'd be surprised if the out of contract players knew where they stood for a good few weeks yet. As you rightly say though, that doesn't seem to be a big problem for Palace.

 

Putitout Flag Oxford 01 Jul 21 2.22pm

Originally posted by sydtheeagle

People need to grasp that when a player's contract runs down, it is not indicative of whether or not he will remain at the club. It simply tells us that re-signing him is not a top priority, or that the player perhaps thinks he is worth more than the club does.

Quite likely Palace may have said to Andros "we definitely want to keep you, but not at £70k a week (or whatever he's paid)". Andros replies "I can get £80k somewhere else" to which we reply ok, we'll let your contract end and you can test the market. When you've got a firm offer let us know and we'll see if we can work something out". It's a way of letting market forces, rather than agent demands, determine a player's value.

It may be that we want all ten out-of-contract players back (or the new manager does) but by letting their contracts run down in a pandemic environment once they've become free agents and without many big offers out there now, we can re-sign all of them for far less than they were on before. That's the up-side of the situation. As for Benteke, we nailed him down simply because proven goalscoring centre forwards who are in form are the hardest thing to find so it was doing the early deal. Players like, say, McCarthy or Schlupp are a dime-a-dozen; at least a bit more easily replaced.

My guess is that of those ten players, we'll keep all, or close to all, of the ones we want to keep most likely on more favourable (to the club) terms than before. I'm totally relaxed about the contract situation; it's a storm in a teacup for the media but largely meaningless for the club.


I think that is about right, it should be if it isn’t. And I very much hope it is.
It’s a little unsettling because although this situation arises a lot in the lower leagues, it is unusual for a club of our stature to approach player retainment in quiet such a heavy handed manner.
But it is unusual times for all clubs, and obviously a transitional period for ours. So let’s hope they really are on top of this.


Edited by Putitout (01 Jul 2021 2.32pm)

 

NEILLO Flag Shoreham-by-Sea 01 Jul 21 2.26pm

Originally posted by sydtheeagle

People need to grasp that when a player's contract runs down, it is not indicative of whether or not he will remain at the club. It simply tells us that re-signing him is not a top priority, or that the player perhaps thinks he is worth more than the club does.

Quite likely Palace may have said to Andros "we definitely want to keep you, but not at £70k a week (or whatever he's paid)". Andros replies "I can get £80k somewhere else" to which we reply ok, we'll let your contract end and you can test the market. When you've got a firm offer let us know and we'll see if we can work something out". It's a way of letting market forces, rather than agent demands, determine a player's value.

It may be that we want all ten out-of-contract players back (or the new manager does) but by letting their contracts run down in a pandemic environment once they've become free agents and without many big offers out there now, we can re-sign all of them for far less than they were on before. That's the up-side of the situation. As for Benteke, we nailed him down simply because proven goalscoring centre forwards who are in form are the hardest thing to find so it was doing the early deal. Players like, say, McCarthy or Schlupp are a dime-a-dozen; at least a bit more easily replaced.

My guess is that of those ten players, we'll keep all, or close to all, of the ones we want to keep most likely on more favourable (to the club) terms than before. I'm totally relaxed about the contract situation; it's a storm in a teacup for the media but largely meaningless for the club.

Agree with this.

I expect Andros to stay, so too Schlupp, Ward, Cahill and Clyne. But all on reduced terms length of contract / salary wise.

 


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TheBigToePunt Flag 01 Jul 21 2.41pm

Originally posted by NEILLO

Agree with this.

I expect Andros to stay, so too Schlupp, Ward, Cahill and Clyne. But all on reduced terms length of contract / salary wise.

Schlupp is not out of contract, so you've got your wish!

Otherwise, I agree with you. I like Dann but he's had it, sadly.

 

CrazyBadger Flag Ware 01 Jul 21 3.06pm

Man, I'm bored of this.
seems like this has dragged on an on.
We should be well into talking about which of our transfer targets are going to West Ham by now.

 


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NEILLO Flag Shoreham-by-Sea 01 Jul 21 3.18pm

Originally posted by TheBigToePunt

Schlupp is not out of contract, so you've got your wish!

Otherwise, I agree with you. I like Dann but he's had it, sadly.

Great news ! &#129315;

 


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Jimenez Flag SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 01 Jul 21 3.40pm

Originally posted by CrazyBadger

Man, I'm bored of this.
seems like this has dragged on an on.
We should be well into talking about which of our transfer targets are going to West Ham by now.

Hopefully we can sign Messi before the Spammers stick their nose in.

 


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pax3908 Flag 01 Jul 21 4.57pm

Originally posted by Jimenez

Hopefully we can sign Messi before the Spammers stick their nose in.

Just be nice to have a manager confirmed!!!

 

Putitout Flag Oxford 01 Jul 21 5.18pm

No news is good news .is how the saying goes. At the moment it seems there really isn’t any news, even the click bait tribe, seem to have shut shop. Whether that’s a good sign or not who knows.
Will he? Wont he? How much difference will it make whether he does or not? It’s all a pain in the rear. But we keep looking for that lift that knowing where we might be headed , as Palace fans, will give.

 

Cucking Funt Flag Clapham on the Back 01 Jul 21 5.28pm

Has anyone signed yet?

 


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eagleman13 Flag On The Road To Hell & Alicante 01 Jul 21 6.51pm

Originally posted by Cucking Funt

Has anyone signed yet?

Yes, Marco Silva for Fulham

 


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Canterbury Palace Flag Whitstable 01 Jul 21 7.09pm

It's weird that they haven't announced him yet, given that he's definitely, definitely signed. The delay is really eating into his three year contract.

 


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eagleman13 Flag On The Road To Hell & Alicante 01 Jul 21 7.34pm

Originally posted by Canterbury Palace

It's weird that they haven't announced him yet, given that he's definitely, definitely signed. The delay is really eating into his three year contract.

The BBC wont allow it, THEY are waiting on the Sancho/manure deal(if it happens). Its ALL about manure with them.

 


This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.

Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 01 Jul 21 7.41pm

I think parish might fancy a bigger risk and challenge than no striker, left back, keeper or whatever and is trialling no manager. You never know, he may set a trend. He did with skinny trousers.

 


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TheBigToePunt Flag 01 Jul 21 8.00pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

I think parish might fancy a bigger risk and challenge than no striker, left back, keeper or whatever and is trialling no manager. You never know, he may set a trend. He did with skinny trousers.

I'll have you know that actually I started that skinny trousers trend.

Oh no, I remember now, I had normal trousers and then I got fatter.

 

braunstoneagle Flag the middle of bumf*** nowhere... 01 Jul 21 8.03pm

Originally posted by Cucking Funt

Has anyone signed yet?

bentekkers? will that do ya, you impatient twot &#128514;

 


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X20XEV Flag Hampshire 01 Jul 21 8.59pm

Can't understand the talk about PV being in France, the wide view of the Bein Sports interview showing the stadium looks like Wembley (as spelled out by the white seats among the red seats), followed by the view of the German player warming up, presumably for THAT match, suggests to me that the studio was not in France.

 

TheBigToePunt Flag 01 Jul 21 9.35pm

Has anyone actually established the truth of this idea that Palace like to do big press releases on a Friday?

I cant for one moment be arsed to go back and check (I'm not even sure which big press releases I'd be looking for) but I've seen several posts suggesting that's how Parish likes it done.

 

pompeyeagle Flag Relocated to Shropshire 01 Jul 21 10.15pm

If this doesn’t get announced in the next two days I might feel the need to be seriously worried.

 

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