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Mapletree Flag Croydon 12 Nov 18 1.35pm

Originally posted by Penge Eagle

I don't get what you mean? Why don't you ever add something to the discussion instead of try to score little personal points?

Edited by Penge Eagle (12 Nov 2018 1.07pm)

As far as I am aware I don't treat this forum as my personal soap box. I try to learn. I really like the air line thing but I am surprised it's making money. I asked a genuine question, which is where did you find that out. Please don't judge me by any standards other than against what I write.

 

jeeagles Flag 12 Nov 18 1.41pm

Livingstone bought TfL back under public control and upgraded the buses getting a huge number of people using them again. Also, was successful in supporting the London 2012 bid.

Johnson made huge improvements to cycling in the capital, and was successful in supporting the delivery of the London 2012 games.

Khan's promise to freeze fares has left a £700m shortfall in TfL's budget. All infrastructure schemes apart from Crossrail are on hold. Crossrail is late and hugely over budget suggesting the shortfall will continue for longer. He said he would increase targeted stop and search. Actual stop and Search is lower than ever, more people are getting killed than ever.

He also got in a pointless twitter spat with the president of america.

 

Penge Eagle Flag Beckenham 12 Nov 18 1.44pm

Originally posted by Mapletree

As far as I am aware I don't treat this forum as my personal soap box. I try to learn. I really like the air line thing but I am surprised it's making money. I asked a genuine question, which is where did you find that out. Please don't judge me by any standards other than against what I write.

Why don't you be productive, maybe even offer some value, by going on to Google and do some research. Then if your data comes back different, then post it. That way we can all discuss it and maybe learn something. Isn't that the idea?

 

Mapletree Flag Croydon 12 Nov 18 1.47pm

Originally posted by Penge Eagle

Why don't you be productive, maybe even offer some value, by going on to Google and do some research. Then if your data comes back different, then post it. That way we can all discuss it and maybe learn something. Isn't that the idea?

I did and I posted a link that, at a quick glance, didn't say it was making money back in March.

I couldn't find anything more up to date so I asked how come

In any case, if you make an assertion surely you have the data to support it, a matter of moments I would think.

So what did I miss?

 

Penge Eagle Flag Beckenham 12 Nov 18 1.53pm

Originally posted by Mapletree

I did and I posted a link that, at a quick glance, didn't say it was making money back in March.

I couldn't find anything more up to date so I asked how come

In any case, if you make an assertion surely you have the data to support it, a matter of moments I would think.

So what did I miss?

The article says: "The transport body could decide to scrap the Emirates cable car across the Thames, which opened in June 2012 in time for the Olympics, although it is marginally profitable."

 

Mapletree Flag Croydon 12 Nov 18 1.53pm

My apologies Penge

I just saw it says 'marginally profitable'

Well I'll go to the foot of our stairs, how does that happen? I am guessing this is some imaginative financial engineering but, in any case, your point is made.

 

Badger11 Flag Beckenham 12 Nov 18 1.56pm

Originally posted by jeeagles

Livingstone bought TfL back under public control and upgraded the buses getting a huge number of people using them again. Also, was successful in supporting the London 2012 bid.

Johnson made huge improvements to cycling in the capital, and was successful in supporting the delivery of the London 2012 games.

Khan's promise to freeze fares has left a £700m shortfall in TfL's budget. All infrastructure schemes apart from Crossrail are on hold. Crossrail is late and hugely over budget suggesting the shortfall will continue for longer. He said he would increase targeted stop and search. Actual stop and Search is lower than ever, more people are getting killed than ever.

He also got in a pointless twitter spat with the president of america.

I recall a journalist claiming that Khan has not even visited any of the victims of knife crime. Now some of them maybe gang members but there have been a number of high profile innocents. So not only is Khan not doing anything about violent crime he is not even "seen" to be doing anything (Of course holding the hand of a bereaved mother doesn't solve the problem).

As I said in my earlier post I think getting the job was his achievement he doesn't seem to know what to do now it is his.

 


One more point

croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 12 Nov 18 2.04pm

Originally posted by Mapletree

My apologies Penge

I just saw it says 'marginally profitable'

Well I'll go to the foot of our stairs, how does that happen? I am guessing this is some imaginative financial engineering but, in any case, your point is made.

But my point is it might be marginally profitable now, but is stil a white elephant regarding the 60 million plus it cost and the loss making up to now, and i might as well throw in the west ham stadium fiasco on boris to, forgot that one, but anyhow, like i said, theyre both useless egotistical money wasting overpaid useless cnuts and i would scrap the post like a previous poster said!

 

Badger11 Flag Beckenham 12 Nov 18 2.12pm

Originally posted by croydon proud

But my point is it might be marginally profitable now, but is stil a white elephant regarding the 60 million plus it cost and the loss making up to now, and i might as well throw in the west ham stadium fiasco on boris to, forgot that one, but anyhow, like i said, theyre both useless egotistical money wasting overpaid useless cnuts and i would scrap the post like a previous poster said!

The cable car and the garden bridge are both good ideas with one flaw. They are not really going anywhere where there is a public need. In different places both could have been brilliant.

 


One more point

croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 12 Nov 18 2.15pm

Originally posted by Badger11

The cable car and the garden bridge are both good ideas with one flaw. They are not really going anywhere where there is a public need. In different places both could have been brilliant.

I rest my case badger, i rest my case!

 

Jimenez Flag SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 12 Nov 18 2.16pm

Originally posted by croydon proud

I rest my case badger, i rest my case!

A bit like Transgender Bathrooms. Ok a few but a waste of time for 99% of us

 


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Stuk Flag Top half 12 Nov 18 2.18pm

Originally posted by jeeagles

Livingstone bought TfL back under public control and upgraded the buses getting a huge number of people using them again. Also, was successful in supporting the London 2012 bid.

Johnson made huge improvements to cycling in the capital, and was successful in supporting the delivery of the London 2012 games.

Khan's promise to freeze fares has left a £700m shortfall in TfL's budget. All infrastructure schemes apart from Crossrail are on hold. Crossrail is late and hugely over budget suggesting the shortfall will continue for longer. He said he would increase targeted stop and search. Actual stop and Search is lower than ever, more people are getting killed than ever.

He also got in a pointless twitter spat with the president of america.

Giving free travel to under 16s and over 60s might have helped with this, rather than upgrading the buses.

 


Optimistic as ever

the despotic banana Flag Dept. of Baboon Maintenance 12 Nov 18 2.28pm

Originally posted by Badger11

The cable car and the garden bridge are both good ideas with one flaw. They are not really going anywhere where there is a public need. In different places both could have been brilliant.

good ideas with one flaw. They are not really going anywhere where there is a public need.

Ha! I've also got a good idea with one flaw: a soluble boat.

 


Ask me about Ronald de Boer.

jeeagles Flag 12 Nov 18 2.28pm

Originally posted by Stuk

Giving free travel to under 16s and over 60s might have helped with this, rather than upgrading the buses.

It was mainly introducing the technology improvements - live departure times, announcements of stops, oyster cards. Gone are the days of guessing when the next bus will come or guessing where to get off. No need to worry about having the right change.

 

Penge Eagle Flag Beckenham 12 Nov 18 2.34pm

Originally posted by croydon proud

But my point is it might be marginally profitable now, but is stil a white elephant regarding the 60 million plus it cost and the loss making up to now, and i might as well throw in the west ham stadium fiasco on boris to, forgot that one, but anyhow, like i said, theyre both useless egotistical money wasting overpaid useless cnuts and i would scrap the post like a previous poster said!

I agree with you that the West Ham stadium fiasco was a total disgrace. They only had to look at how Man City did it with the Commonwealth Games venue.

 

Stuk Flag Top half 12 Nov 18 2.50pm

Originally posted by jeeagles

It was mainly introducing the technology improvements - live departure times, announcements of stops, oyster cards. Gone are the days of guessing when the next bus will come or guessing where to get off. No need to worry about having the right change.

I'm fairly sure the free factor was bigger influence in increased passenger numbers than those.

I never had a problem with asking the driver to shout me when I was at a destination, if I didn't know it.

 


Optimistic as ever

Mr Palaceman Flag 12 Nov 18 2.55pm

Originally posted by the despotic banana

good ideas with one flaw. They are not really going anywhere where there is a public need.

Ha! I've also got a good idea with one flaw: a soluble boat.

This is why I love the HOL, practical solutions to practical problems.

Where do I send my cheque. Are you crowd funding?

 


"You can lead a horse to water but a pencil must be lead"

Stan Laurel

Mr Palaceman Flag 12 Nov 18 3.35pm

Reading through the post, I can't see him getting re-elected.

I'm glad I posted this thread as I genuinely wanted to know what he has done. I thought there's bound to be someone who would stand up for him, maybe a labour supporter but not one. There's still time.

Interesting about the 700 million, black hole in TFL finance, I didn't know that, although I find in hard to accept that the only reason for this is a fares freeze. The rate that fares have been going up over the last 25 years has been scandalous. We have one of the worst services in Europe and the highest fares, so I'm lead to believe. I travel a lot and do notice that the standard of public transport is much better in Europe and the fares lower. How do they do it?

I do think London needs a Mayor. A good mayor can have a very positive impact on a city, I just feel that we have the post but no one in it.

I definitely agree that he appears to be a self serving individual.

I may have run next time.

What do Hol'ers want to see in my manifesto. I am here for you, Let's make London Great again, Yes we can. I want a London that works for everyone not the few, we are a big society, it's time for change.

 


"You can lead a horse to water but a pencil must be lead"

Stan Laurel

topcat Flag Holmesdale / Surbiton 12 Nov 18 4.25pm

I think an independent candidate could become the next Mayor. People are sick of politicians and if the Mayor is Labour and the government is Tory it is impossible to get the funding for any real policies.

The black hole in the TFL budget, I believe, is caused due to money from central government being cut. Prices are already ridiculously high so something needs to give.

Despite his faults (both real and imagined) Ken was the only Mayor who had actually cared about London, the others have used the office as a potential stepping stone. Boris though it ok to do the job part time.

 


It's 106 miles to Chicago, we got a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark... and we're wearing sunglasses.

topcat Flag Holmesdale / Surbiton 12 Nov 18 4.26pm

PS; VOTE FOR MR PALACEMAN. You know it makes sense.

 


It's 106 miles to Chicago, we got a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark... and we're wearing sunglasses.

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