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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 22 Dec 19 1.04pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

Just want him to yellow card me so I can get in a huff and have a month off of you lot

I catch that beat.

 


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View Matov's Profile Matov Flag 22 Dec 19 1.57pm Send a Private Message to Matov Add Matov as a friend

Johnson really is rubbing the salt in.

First the visit to Sedgefield to meet his new Northern MP's and now flying to Estonia for a meet and greet with the troops.

Can you imagine Corbyn doing similar? LOL. The reaction of the British Army to having an IRA loving scum-bag like that turning up in their midst would be priceless.

Edited by Matov (22 Dec 2019 1.58pm)

 


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Originally posted by Matov

Johnson really is rubbing the salt in.

First the visit to Sedgefield to meet his new Northern MP's and now flying to Estonia for a meet and greet with the troops.

Can you imagine Corbyn doing similar? LOL. The reaction of the British Army to having an IRA loving scum-bag like that turning up in their midst would be priceless.

Edited by Matov (22 Dec 2019 1.58pm)

What Corbyn should do now is look to reform his old band The Communards.

 


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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 22 Dec 19 7.56pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Report seems to confirm what a number of ex Labour MPs have been saying. That Labour did not support certain MPs and directed activists and money to the wrong areas.

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Some disgruntled ex MPs have claimed that Labour HQ was more interested in supporting their Corbyn / Momentum candidates even in areas where they had little chance of winning.


 


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View chris123's Profile chris123 Flag hove actually 22 Dec 19 8.02pm Send a Private Message to chris123 Add chris123 as a friend

Originally posted by Matov

Johnson really is rubbing the salt in.

First the visit to Sedgefield to meet his new Northern MP's and now flying to Estonia for a meet and greet with the troops.

Can you imagine Corbyn doing similar? LOL. The reaction of the British Army to having an IRA loving scum-bag like that turning up in their midst would be priceless.

Edited by Matov (22 Dec 2019 1.58pm)

Can't see military families voting for Corbyn.

 

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View becky's Profile becky Flag over the moon 22 Dec 19 9.07pm Send a Private Message to becky Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add becky as a friend

Originally posted by chris123

Can't see military families voting for Corbyn.

Like turkeys voting for Christmas

 


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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 23 Dec 19 8.26am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Ed Milliband to lead an inquiry into Labour's electoral failure well he knows a great deal about failure.

I hope for the sake of the party and it's supporters that it is a proper inquiry and not just a put up job by Momentum to get the answer they want.

 


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View the.universal's Profile the.universal 23 Dec 19 8.31am Send a Private Message to the.universal Add the.universal as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

I don't know how to put it politely so I'll just come straight out and say that you're a lying *******

I would guess that no more than one post every six months gets deleted and if that is your definition of "all the time" then you're a terrible accountant and should be disbarred

This post is most unbecoming of a person in a role of authority.

 


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jeeagles Flag 23 Dec 19 8.36am

Originally posted by Badger11

Ed Milliband to lead an inquiry into Labour's electoral failure well he knows a great deal about failure.

I hope for the sake of the party and it's supporters that it is a proper inquiry and not just a put up job by Momentum to get the answer they want.

The Unions lead me to beat my brother in the leadership race, then we changed the voting system and got momentum...

At least he quit the morning after the election.

Corbyn was pushing a happy hanukkah message of facebook yesterday. It just came across as completely contrived.

I honestly think Labour has to split.

 

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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 23 Dec 19 8.51am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by the.universal


This post is most unbecoming of a person in a role of authority.

Oh dear. Another one with authority issues

I dread to think what you're like with someone who is genuinely in a position of authority rather than someone who just keeps an eye on a tiny internet forum


 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 23 Dec 19 8.51am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by jeeagles

The Unions lead me to beat my brother in the leadership race, then we changed the voting system and got momentum...

At least he quit the morning after the election.

Corbyn was pushing a happy hanukkah message of facebook yesterday. It just came across as completely contrived.

I honestly think Labour has to split.

I think you've hit the nail on the head. If this was a genuine inquiry you would ask the most successful (elections) Labour politician for advice. Tony Blair of course is hated worse than the Tories by Momentum so that was never going to happen.

Any Inquiry will just be a whitewash because simply put this is fight between the Blairite moderates and the Corbynists you don't need an inquiry for that it is about who has the numbers and the levers of power.

Johnson united his party because he had a small but vocal group of Remainer MPs and he realised that as the wider membership and also Tory voters were Leavers he didn't need them.

Labour has a far harder problem to solve. Many MPs are still Blairtes but a lot of the membership is hard left, meanwhile the voting public would prefer a more moderate leader.

Labour may split because both sides have large numbers so my guess is that at best they will put a sticking plaster on it as they did with Blair. Labour has been fighting this battle since the 1970's Kinnock briefly won and that helped Blair but the hard left never went away they just went underground and bided their time.

They now have the levers of power and I doubt they will give them up. I predict more turmoil and strife for years to come unless they do split.

Edited by Badger11 (23 Dec 2019 8.53am)

 


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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 01 Jan 20 9.07am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

The 5 stages of grief and loss are: 1. Denial and isolation; 2. Anger; 3. Bargaining; 4. Depression; 5. Acceptance.

I am not joking when I say that people in the Labour party are going through this and are currently stuck between denial and bargaining.

The number of politicians and Labour supporters I have heard since the result who just can't accept they got it wrong.

Comments like "this was a Brexit election apart from that we would have won. Blame the MSM for their anti Corbyn bias (in 2017 those people were crowing that social media was king and the MSM was irrelevant to modern politics), our policies are popular it was our message etc."

The big gripe about Boris making it a Brexit election completely misses the point. At every election parties will focus on their strength and try to make the election about that, no doubt the Green party told people the single biggest issue is the environment and not Brexit. So if it was a Brexit election then the Labour party failed to convince the voters that the election should be about the issues they cared about.

Corbyn appears to be carrying on as if nothing serious has happened and he is showing his true colours by saying Labour are the party of resistance just like the idiots who scuffled with the police the day after the vote denying Boris was PM the "not in my name brigade".

Labour seriously need to move to the end stage acceptance but I don't think that will be possible for Corbyn supporters.

My New Year's wish is for Labour to come to it's senses and have a good think about what type of party they want to be. Are they a serious opposition with serious alternate policies and a credible leader or do they prefer to be the party of protest which only gets you so far.

 


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