Poor old Keir should give up and go back to being a very effective barrister.
Surrounded by non entities in his shadow cabinet,particularly dreary,dopey people like Dodds,education secretary and Ashworth who all underwent charisma bypass surgery,he was sadly,doomed from the start.

Of the three Labour leaders that have won elections since the war. Two were barristers.

On matters of conscious he's pretty good. It just seems like Labour have no policy. Their core supporter base has shifted since Momentum took control of the party and the sole intention is to have a throwback socialist labour party who do nothing more than call all conservative voters scum.

Starmer's main battle coming up isn't to win an election, he needs to straighten out the party. Corbyn's leadership was akin to Farrage taking control of the Tories and infiltrating it with moronic UKIPpers that have chased out all the talent.

Personally, I think what traditional Labour voters want to see is a party that offers pragmatic ideas to support those less well off, policy to match changing technology and economic conditions, a hard line on crime, acceptance of the referendum decision (even reluctantly), and less of this spiteful ideology which seems to be directed at the rich but helps no one.

It seems the only solution at the moment is to set up a new party, as Labour won't be escaping the clutches of the lunatics any time soon.

Lib Dem are still failing to fill the gap as they just seem too soft on everything, always trying to be a middle man and never being decisive.

The " traditional" Labour voter is what Gordon Brown came up against in Rochdale.

The Momentum/Corbynista clique were arrogant to believe the masses would blindly follow their student politics.

The current Government is a centrist as is likely for a while and has hoovered up the North.

I remain quite happy to see the Labour Party self combusting over the next few years leading up to the next General Election.

I hope Labour continue to have rejoining the EU as a front and centre policy as that is a 60+ seat head start to the Conservatives.

Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

Exactly Dyson simply saying that if his people need to come to the UK to finish work on these ventilators will they get screwed by the tax man Boris of course said no which was perfectly reasonable.

As a comparison it's like the driver who pulls into a bus lane to let the ambulance through and then gets a ticket.

Plenty of other Tory sleaze around nothing to see here.

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One more point

No. It is down to procedure. There are ways of doing things and asking your mate the chief executive of the country to sort it on the QT is not the way.

Yeah yeah, red tape, bureaucracy cut through in a crisis etc. However, believe it or not, rules are there not just to make work for civil servants, but to operate as checks and balances against abuse.

Thus, in this case the PM's protestations that he was acting in the nation's best interests is fair. However, as the top of the heap, he cannot side-step important rules designed to prevent corruption. If you want to inspire confidence in an organization, you don't just need to do right you need to be seen and perceived as doing right. On this occasion, he did not. Thus, the attacks are proportionate and justified.

Public confidence has been eroded, albeit not much; and the story will be chip wrap in a week.

What tax rule do you think they are being accused of breaking?

Everyone's claiming they've broken a rule - but they don't know what rule has been broken, they simply haven't done anything wrong here.

In a sporting analogy, it's like claiming one side has cheated for asking a ref to clarify the rules.

Starmer - totally seduced by the soft lights, the place reserved for an opposition leader, the tory deference that if there has to be one, let him be one of us.

But that is all it is, Sir Keir, and your job is to lead the opposition in the country to the government.

No discernible opposition to anything tory, even when presented with innumerable own goals, would rather not even vote against them.

Where does he stand on the climate emergency, the 'green revolution', the pandemic even, the deep seated tory corruption?

The failure to oppose Johnson's deal, leaving him without a credible position, as broken as it is?

Starmer lends credence to the view, widely held, that Westminster is totally unsuited and actually the root of our many problems.

What would be the point of electing him we will still be pouring s**t into rivers.

The opposition attacking the Government over this Dyson issue is what it is meant to be doing. I am all for slagging off Starmer but this is what his job actually is.

Actual real politics.

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

A dirty business. With this Dyson stuff and those mega bucks contracts that were handed out to politicians mates by the dozen we really ought to appreciate it for what it is. I know we've all become cynical about politicans or imagine that 'the other lot would do the same', but really we should applaud all and any efforts to shine a light on this because it shows individuals up for who they are and what they're all about. You don't get better people in place by sneering at underdog opposition, or by letting our dislike of them excuse this entitled crap.

James Dyson's family pay well over 100 million pounds in UK tax, more from his corporate ventures. It is completely wrong to infer he does not pay tax.

Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.