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 Frickin Saweet  South Cronx 27 Jul 20 5.12pm |
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Originally posted by jeeagles
I've answered it several times Neillo. You are just ignoring it. Communication between the Chairman and Manager should be clear, and so should the stratergy. A "tiny" difference is could also be described as insignificant. Which is what it was. It wasn't even in the right direction, it just slowed down the decline Losing wouldn't have made a bit of difference. Drawing will possibly drag out the saga of Roy Hodgson's very slowly killing the club. The players know the only reason we got a draw yesterday was because Spurs let the game fizzle out. Had they needed to win, it would have been a different story. I see you and Roy might both have very risk adverse personalities, at some point you have to take risks. Sport is about taking risks and trying to win. The best time to take risks is when there is nothing to lose, we didn't take this oportunity and we are now worse off because of it. The time to start changing things wasn't after the Bournmouth game, thats a disingenous comment. The time to change them was after the Burnley game when we knew we had a tough run of fixtures. I think you're right in that peoples expectations for Palace are likely to echo their own life attitudes and what people are prepared to settle for or want to achieve for themselves. There are those who accept a s*** hand or that they've reached a ceiling, and those who will push for betterment. Given Parish's own entrepreneurial past he will have taken calculated risks and broken the rule book at times. I just hope he has one more marauding run left in him at Palace to try and better the club before his ownership cycle comes to an end.
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CT Charlie  27 Jul 20 5.19pm |
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Originally posted by jeeagles
Jesus Neillo, you and Roy have so much in common. You keep on asking the same question and expect a different answer. Parish should have asked what the long term benefits of experimenting are. Woy should have realised that his stratergy has not worked this season and he needed to find something new. Those 8 (in fairness 6) last games could have been used to do just that. Instead, Woy decided do just do the same thing again and again.... and it failed. I don't know what is so difficult to get your head round? This is crazy talk. Despite serious injuries, little depth, and no real Prem-level threat in the striker position, Roy's much-maligned system had earned us 42 points through 31 matches. The Bournemouth match in June gave us four consecutive wins, and 50 or more points didn't seem out of reach. Why would he, or anyone, have considered changing tactics when a finish in the top 8-10 was possible, bringing the club more money and, by our standards, a little glory. In hindsight, we know that things unraveled, but changing course -- or treating the Restart as Friendly-time -- would have seemed daft. Edited by CT Charlie (27 Jul 2020 5.27pm)
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jeeagles  27 Jul 20 5.45pm |
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Originally posted by Cucking Funt
The idea of Neillo being a troll is truly laughable. As are your increasingly feeble efforts to denigrate Hodgson (Woy. How old are you? Six?) and constant repetition of the same old ill-considered, ill- informed horsesh*t which has been repeatedly and intelligently rebuffed. Sorry to be so blunt but you're becoming really tiresome now. Comming from a guy who's tag line is about wife beating northerners. Had Neillo not asked me to repeat what I'd said time and time again. Then I wouldnt have repeated it, which has caused this frustrating loop. My polite attempts failed so I changed tactics. It might have been the wrong tactic, but repeating what I did before didnt work. My new tactic also didnt work. Therefore, I'm going to do what Roy Hodgson should do and give up. Just like him, I'm out of ideas. Unlike him, I'm disappointed to have failed, but it's down to my ineffective communication on my part and not Hodgson's ability as a manager. After all, Eddie has already declared the end of discussion. Staying in the premiership is obviously enough after 7 seasons in the top flight.
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southnorwoodhill  27 Jul 20 6.01pm |
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Originally posted by jeeagles
Are you being a troll or can you weally not understand the long term advanage of playing 7 premier league games like friendlys to try and find out what will and what wont work the following season? Woy's not going to read this. You're the only person getting upset. My cheap Woy insult seems to work, unlike his tactics. I tried something new, and got a reaction. You and Woy should take note. 1 point from 8 games. 3 goals. 8 dreadful performances. Relegation form, but don't worry, lets just try exactly the same thing again. Constantly the same failing tactics. Second lowest number of goals scored this season. An aging squad of failed journeyman, lead uninspiringly by a failed geriatric who's only ability is coming up with pathetic excuses in front of the media. Our best player is leaving on half the value he was worth last season. All our players have decreased in value under Woy. Zaha, Benteke, Townsend, Sakho, Tompkins, Luka, PVA are all a shaddow of their former selves. All our players are underperfoming but never dropped. We have a Dutch and German on the sidelines that aren't getting a look in. He refused to give a chance to a player who's one of the highest goal scores in Europe. He only gave AWB a look in when we didn't have any other option, had Ward and Kelly stayed fit the most expensive right back in the world would probably be playing youth team football still. We never make positive substitutions or chase a game when we are losing. All our substitutions are made far too late if at all. Wickham scored one and made one in two appearance then was loaned out. Our set peices are terrible and predicatable. Individual skill has dissapeared, we can't string three passes together. We don't play to our best players strenghts as it doesn't fit the system. A guy that scored 66 premiership goals in 4 seasons before Woy has scored 6 since. The football is awful. Almost deliberatly going out of the cup in front of our own supporters who'd paid good money to go. Woy's answer to this terrible run. Play excatly the same team. Week in, week out. If it doesn't work, he'll blame everyone else but himself despite having a squad full of seasoned premier league professionals who have had moderate success elsewhere. Woy's a won twick pony. He's good and getting a team organised. But that doesn't last. We should have got rid of him before the start of this season. Yet you claim he's working miracles, buy keeping a team with the 9th highest wagebill and players who were exceedingly highly rated prior to his arrival in the premier league. As the thread about him said when he first joined. There's a lot of questions in football, Roy Hodgson is the answer to none of them. Lets sign this off by asking, what the hell has Woy done right this season? I thought Hodgson was a stop gap for whoever was lined up next after the FdB fiasco, I didn't expect him to be in charge for the season just past. You are correct, some players look like shadows of their former selves after seasons of negative vibes coming from the Hodgson camp. Whatever has happened to Luka for example, he's woeful!
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| NEILLO Shoreham-by-Sea 27 Jul 20 6.08pm |
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Originally posted by jeeagles
Comming from a guy who's tag line is about wife beating northerners. Had Neillo not asked me to repeat what I'd said time and time again. Then I wouldnt have repeated it, which has caused this frustrating loop. My polite attempts failed so I changed tactics. It might have been the wrong tactic, but repeating what I did before didnt work. My new tactic also didnt work. Therefore, I'm going to do what Roy Hodgson should do and give up. Just like him, I'm out of ideas. Unlike him, I'm disappointed to have failed, but it's down to my ineffective communication on my part and not Hodgson's ability as a manager. After all, Eddie has already declared the end of discussion. Staying in the premiership is obviously enough after 7 seasons in the top flight. At no time did I ask you to repeat yourself. You seem to be incapable of stopping yourself. I asked you a question that you still haven't answered, which of course is your prerogative. So I then asked '' Ok, back to my question. What do you think Parish would have said to Hodgson if Hodgson said '' Steve, I'm going to experiment in the last 8 games and treat them as friendlies '' - which was your suggestion. Just enlighten me please...what do you think Parish would have said ?? I fact I think YOU are the Troll. Nobody in their right mind would seriously propose some of the things you have suggested !
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 Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 27 Jul 20 6.19pm |
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Originally posted by jeeagles
Comming from a guy who's tag line is about wife beating northerners. Had Neillo not asked me to repeat what I'd said time and time again. Then I wouldnt have repeated it, which has caused this frustrating loop. My polite attempts failed so I changed tactics. It might have been the wrong tactic, but repeating what I did before didnt work. My new tactic also didnt work. Therefore, I'm going to do what Roy Hodgson should do and give up. Just like him, I'm out of ideas. Unlike him, I'm disappointed to have failed, but it's down to my ineffective communication on my part and not Hodgson's ability as a manager. After all, Eddie has already declared the end of discussion. Staying in the premiership is obviously enough after 7 seasons in the top flight. Stupidity level = impenetrable
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| jeeagles 27 Jul 20 6.38pm |
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Originally posted by Cucking Funt
Stupidity level = impenetrable Good comeback, what are you six. I said I'd leave it, but you had to carry on. You sir, have all the characteristics of a nonce.
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| Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 27 Jul 20 6.46pm |
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Originally posted by jeeagles
Good comeback, what are you six. I said I'd leave it, but you had to carry on. You sir, have all the characteristics of a nonce. Why? Because I can debate better than you? You mustn't take defeat so seriously. Rots the soul.
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| jeeagles 27 Jul 20 6.47pm |
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You just troll. You are good at Trolling.
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| Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 27 Jul 20 6.52pm |
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Originally posted by jeeagles
You just troll. You are good at Trolling.
You're upset. I understand. Take a breather. Chill, bro, innit.
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| jeeagles 27 Jul 20 6.56pm |
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This discussion is about how bad Roy is. Keep trolling.
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| jeeagles 27 Jul 20 7.10pm |
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Originally posted by Cucking Funt
Wrong. It's about how bad YOU think he is and everyone else telling you that you're talking drivel. Best lay off now - it's hogging the thread. I shall say no more but I'm sure you're a last word freak so.... over to you. Aww take a break bro. Just because you failed at trolling. You couldn't resist a last dig could you. Now your stuck. I'd be happy if you came back with a last word. It would at least prove you are on here, rather than grooming children or beating the wife, which is what I suspect you do with the rest or your time. Back to Roy Apologies for the interruption everyone. I'll leave this site now. Edited by jeeagles (27 Jul 2020 7.14pm)
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Den1923  27 Jul 20 7.30pm |
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Originally posted by southnorwoodhill
I thought Hodgson was a stop gap for whoever was lined up next after the FdB fiasco, I didn't expect him to be in charge for the season just past. You are correct, some players look like shadows of their former selves after seasons of negative vibes coming from the Hodgson camp. Whatever has happened to Luka for example, he's woeful! Please see the above article and hopefully you will appreciate the work that has been done by Roy or not as the case maybe. I think you are correct when you say the players look jaded but that is more down to the run of games in quick succession, post Covid-19 in much warmer temperatures, plus you begin to see that the aged profile of the team has resulted in longer term injuries as they are unable to perform every two/three days at the level being asked of them following the easing of the lockdown on elite football.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 27 Jul 20 8.30pm |
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Originally posted by jeeagles
Good comeback, what are you six. I said I'd leave it, but you had to carry on. You sir, have all the characteristics of a nonce. Be careful. You’re making Cucking horny.
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| Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 27 Jul 20 9.08pm |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
Be careful. You’re making Cucking horny.
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| NickinOX Sailing country. 27 Jul 20 10.41pm |
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Originally posted by jeeagles
Are you being a troll or can you weally not understand the long term advanage of playing 7 premier league games like friendlys to try and find out what will and what wont work the following season? Woy's not going to read this. You're the only person getting upset. My cheap Woy insult seems to work, unlike his tactics. I tried something new, and got a reaction. You and Woy should take note. 1 point from 8 games. 3 goals. 8 dreadful performances. Relegation form, but don't worry, lets just try exactly the same thing again. Constantly the same failing tactics. Second lowest number of goals scored this season. An aging squad of failed journeyman, lead uninspiringly by a failed geriatric who's only ability is coming up with pathetic excuses in front of the media. Our best player is leaving on half the value he was worth last season. All our players have decreased in value under Woy. Zaha, Benteke, Townsend, Sakho, Tompkins, Luka, PVA are all a shaddow of their former selves. All our players are underperfoming but never dropped. We have a Dutch and German on the sidelines that aren't getting a look in. He refused to give a chance to a player who's one of the highest goal scores in Europe. He only gave AWB a look in when we didn't have any other option, had Ward and Kelly stayed fit the most expensive right back in the world would probably be playing youth team football still. We never make positive substitutions or chase a game when we are losing. All our substitutions are made far too late if at all. Wickham scored one and made one in two appearance then was loaned out. Our set peices are terrible and predicatable. Individual skill has dissapeared, we can't string three passes together. We don't play to our best players strenghts as it doesn't fit the system. A guy that scored 66 premiership goals in 4 seasons before Woy has scored 6 since. The football is awful. Almost deliberatly going out of the cup in front of our own supporters who'd paid good money to go. Woy's answer to this terrible run. Play excatly the same team. Week in, week out. If it doesn't work, he'll blame everyone else but himself despite having a squad full of seasoned premier league professionals who have had moderate success elsewhere. Woy's a won twick pony. He's good and getting a team organised. But that doesn't last. We should have got rid of him before the start of this season. Yet you claim he's working miracles, buy keeping a team with the 9th highest wagebill and players who were exceedingly highly rated prior to his arrival in the premier league. As the thread about him said when he first joined. There's a lot of questions in football, Roy Hodgson is the answer to none of them. Lets sign this off by asking, what the hell has Woy done right this season? You might think it is a good idea to play around with some dead rubbers, in the way your parents seemingly did years ago, but surely 7-8 games of doing it is a bit silly given the money involved. I would have liked to have seen more rotation of the couple of players who could go straight into the team, and I would have liked to see a few more minutes from Pierrick. However, Roy kept us up despite the squad being weaker each year he has been here. That is what he is employed to do. Hopefully, now the club has been trying to pick up younger players and as the wage bill frees up, we will see some investment in the squad. After all Roy had us playing some bloody good football when he had Zaha, RLC and Cabaye in the team. Whoever the manager is, the squad needs investment. Simply blaming Roy is laughable. Edited by NickinOX (27 Jul 2020 10.54pm)
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