We do agree about your first paragraph.

I do not though think as you suggest in the second.I see no reason at all for us to carry the actions of our forefathers on our shoulders unless we perpetuate them. Some of them us try hard not to. Others less so. There is nothing wrong in celebrating and treasuring our history, but it also wise and honourable to acknowledge mistakes that can only now be recognised with the benefit of experience and hindsight.

There is no reason at all why the people, traditions and culture of Europe will be swept away. The mix of people who identify themselves as European will go on evolving just as it always has. In other parts of the world where Europeans have settled there will be a similar process and new cultures will emerge which blend a variety of elements. It’s really nothing new

The only ones fretting about are the likes of you

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Great British fish and chips not acceptable

[Link]

Enoch Burke has already done a punitively long stretch in Prison. Contempt of Court.....connected to a row about his/her/they.

In the 1984 of Big Brother, it was a crime to speak the truth.

Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford

Your blind acceptance of the “Great Replacement Theory” is overwhelming the actual facts. So let’s look at those two claims.

Firstly, all the people who are living here now and in the future are Homo sapiens. The Neanderthals were not. They were eventually dominated by us because we were superior in minor, but important ways.

Now let’s look at the numbers. In the year to June 2022 around 15% of us weren’t born here. However that included around 5% from the EU countries, people I assume you aren’t concerned about. So around 10% of concern and 90% of no concern. The complete reverse of your scenario described above.

Your hypothesis depends on the assumption that all trends go in straight lines, but that has never been true and won’t be in the future. More sophisticated predictions are required and you can find them here:-

[Link]

I urge you to read this in full. Of particular relevance when assessing the validity of your claims is this:-

“ONS figures show that in 2021, 28.8% of births in the UK were to non-UK born mothers. This is higher than the share of non-UK born people in the UK population, primarily because non-UK born women are more likely to be of childbearing age. The estimated total fertility rate of foreign-born women living in the UK has declined over the past 10 years to just below ‘replacement rate’, and stood at 2.03 in 2021. This compared to 1.54 for UK-born women. Note that these figures include non-UK born women regardless of how long they have lived in the UK.”

So as people settle they adjust and adopt similar patterns to the UK born. With the overall numbers forecasted to decline there is no risk at all of the situation you foresee actually happening. It’s simply scaremongering.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

I have stopped engaging with him directly.

I find the know it all attitude and delusions of adequacy simply unbearable, others may have entirely different views.

I have no problem with everyone having an opinion but his arrogance and faux superiority complex plus his " my opinions are facts " attitude is not worth engaging with.

I can see the point you make about having a degree of use, albeit a small one

Refer to my signature about RDD
Edited by HKOwen (18 Mar 2024 12.14am)

Edited by HKOwen (18 Mar 2024 12.20am)

Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

This is a great post... Because it displays your incredible ignorance.

First. Neanderthals disappeared because there were far fewer of them than modern humans. We still carry a few percent of their genes. They were absorbed. Evidence suggests that they were sophisticated and actually had bigger brains than us. There is no evidence that they were 'dominated' other than in numbers.

Fact. The proportion of migrants has risen rapidly in the past 50 years.
Fact. Immigration is increasing.
Fact. First generation migrants tend to have more children than the British average. Even if the birth rate declines through subsequent generations, the population is continuously refreshed by new arrivals with higher birth rates.

Conclusion. The only way to avoid becoming a minority and eventually non existent is to halt mass migration. Your assertion relies on a total reversal of current policy and a deluded belief that a desire to migrate to Europe will decline.

Can you point to any evidence that this is likely to happen?

I welcome you not responding to me directly. Continuous rudeness is boring. You are though obsessed with some kind of irrational dislike of me, which is an odd phenomenon. It won't though stop me from commenting on some of the things you claim.

There is only one "know it all" poster here and it isn't me. We all know who that is. It may have escaped your notice but there are many subjects I avoid completely. Why? Because I don't know enough to make a contribution.

For the avoidance of doubt my opinions are not facts. Facts are facts and if I state one I will say so. If I don't it's an opinion.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

It's probably fair to say that an Internet persona will only be a small element of someone's real world personality.

I would guess that I am probably nothing like people might perceive from here, and I hope to god for Wisbech's sake that he is a much more likeable fellow in real life and is not as combative when not in a defensive posture.

Of course the fact that he is happy to see his offspring become a minority and his totally irrational loyalty to Brussels is hard to swallow.
Don't get me started on his inability to have any objectivity with American politics.

I'm sure his friends are all likewise deluded.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (18 Mar 2024 10.08am)

#defundthebbc

This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.

Of course you are, because you are that gullible.

There is speculation, extrapolation, pure propaganda and then facts.

Fact. The immigrant population has grown rapidly.
Fact. Immigration is increasing.
Fact. European birth rate is continuing to fall.
Fact. Migrant birth rate is higher and is perpetuating increasing population levels in Britian.

Speculation. Migration is very likely to increase due to climate change, increasing global population and greater friction between various groups.
Propaganda. None of those facts can be used to extrapolate a prediction for the future make up of the British population.

You and the BBC are denying facts and employing spin based on nothing.

How high would the percentage of non White British have to be before you stopped this ridiculous pretence?