Are you being a troll or can you weally not understand the long term advanage of playing 7 premier league games like friendlys to try and find out what will and what wont work the following season?

Woy's not going to read this. You're the only person getting upset. My cheap Woy insult seems to work, unlike his tactics. I tried something new, and got a reaction. You and Woy should take note.

1 point from 8 games. 3 goals. 8 dreadful performances. Relegation form, but don't worry, lets just try exactly the same thing again.

Constantly the same failing tactics. Second lowest number of goals scored this season. An aging squad of failed journeyman, lead uninspiringly by a failed geriatric who's only ability is coming up with pathetic excuses in front of the media. Our best player is leaving on half the value he was worth last season. All our players have decreased in value under Woy. Zaha, Benteke, Townsend, Sakho, Tompkins, Luka, PVA are all a shaddow of their former selves. All our players are underperfoming but never dropped. We have a Dutch and German on the sidelines that aren't getting a look in. He refused to give a chance to a player who's one of the highest goal scores in Europe. He only gave AWB a look in when we didn't have any other option, had Ward and Kelly stayed fit the most expensive right back in the world would probably be playing youth team football still. We never make positive substitutions or chase a game when we are losing. All our substitutions are made far too late if at all. Wickham scored one and made one in two appearance then was loaned out. Our set peices are terrible and predicatable. Individual skill has dissapeared, we can't string three passes together. We don't play to our best players strenghts as it doesn't fit the system. A guy that scored 66 premiership goals in 4 seasons before Woy has scored 6 since. The football is awful. Almost deliberatly going out of the cup in front of our own supporters who'd paid good money to go.

Woy's answer to this terrible run. Play excatly the same team. Week in, week out. If it doesn't work, he'll blame everyone else but himself despite having a squad full of seasoned premier league professionals who have had moderate success elsewhere.

Woy's a won twick pony. He's good and getting a team organised. But that doesn't last. We should have got rid of him before the start of this season.
The man is stealing a living at our expense. I don't think that deserves any respect.

Yet you claim he's working miracles, buy keeping a team with the 9th highest wagebill and players who were exceedingly highly rated prior to his arrival in the premier league.

As the thread about him said when he first joined. There's a lot of questions in football, Roy Hodgson is the answer to none of them.

Lets sign this off by asking, what the hell has Woy done right this season?

Perhaps as a result of us beating those teams, they are now to enjoy the Championship. The table after 38 games doesn’t lie.

Has Roy been that lucky? He has had to deal with an horrendous injury problem with a very small squad.

Where has Roy stated he wants to sign ageing players for next season? What is your definition of an ageing player.

Indeed he has said this and furthermore, prior to the Spuds game he said that ALL the players the club are looking at are young players. He did go on to say that that didn't mean that if a player wasn't under 20 he wouldn't be considered but the focus is going to be on bringing in youth.

I just wish the anti-Roy brigade would stop repeating their garbage about Roy wanting to bring in ageing players. It is my OPINION that Roy will work with what he's given, whatever their age and will adapt the playing style to the strengths of his squad but that style will always start with a sound defence (something Jose is also renowned for - in fact as an aside, it was noticeable that Jose showed Roy a lot of warmth when greeting him before the game, suggesting he holds him in high esteem).

Indeed he has said this and furthermore, prior to the Spuds game he said that ALL the players the club are looking at are young players. He did go on to say that that didn't mean that if a player wasn't under 20 he wouldn't be considered but the focus is going to be on bringing in youth.

I just wish the anti-Roy brigade would stop repeating their garbage about Roy wanting to bring in ageing players. It is my OPINION that Roy will work with what he's given, whatever their age and will adapt the playing style to the strengths of his squad but that style will always start with a sound defence (something Jose is also renowned for - in fact as an aside, it was noticeable that Jose showed Roy a lot of warmth when greeting him before the game, suggesting he holds him in high esteem).

I think you will find it is the press that have been banging on about Roy being at odds with Parish over the type of players to sign. It is little wonder there is confusion amongst our supporters. I think it’s probably best to wait see what happens in the few weeks. We haven’t got long to wait so might as well save up all the fire and brimstone posts until it can be seen how we managed to screw up this transfer window! Hoping to be proven wrong btw.

I think the idea of playing the youngsters needs to put into perspective and reality.

Each place in the Prem is worth about 2 million. So would people rather play youngsters at the club who as others have pointed out do not have a very good track record even at their level for yhe sake of playing them. Or would you rather say gain two places and spend the 4 million (compensation) for Nathan Ferguson?

Just read a statistic that indicated that Palace are the first club who have failed to score more than two goals in a game during a season and still avoid being relegated.
The Hodgson fans will see this as evidence that he’s doing a good job to avoid relegation with the paucity of attacking options.
His critics will point to his defensive tactics and tactical rigidity as the reason for lack of goals and will say he’s unlikely to be able manage a similar feat of staying up next season if he employs similar tactics resulting in an equal lack of goals.
Guess it goes to show you can prove anything you want with statistics.

Just read a statistic that indicated that Palace are the first club who have failed to score more than two goals in a game during a season and still avoid being relegated.
The Hodgson fans will see this as evidence that he’s doing a good job to avoid relegation with the paucity of attacking options.
His critics will point to his defensive tactics and tactical rigidity as the reason for lack of goals and will say he’s unlikely to be able manage a similar feat of staying up next season if he employs similar tactics resulting in an equal lack of goals.
Guess it goes to show you can prove anything you want with statistics.

That's always been the case. Here are a couple more:
-as against our paltry 31 goals in the league this season, we scored 45 in 2017/18 and 51 in 2018/19, all under Roy. What does that tell us? It will depend on which side of the Roy Hodgson fence you choose to sit. Last, season, of course, most of those goals came away from home, when we scored 3 goals or more in no fewer than SIX games, winning five of them (Citeh, Liverpool, Leicester, Burnley, Arsenal and Cardiff). We also, of course, scored 5 in our final home game.

So what does all this tell us? I will leave that to others since as I've said on several occasions I'm neither pro nor anti Roy, just mad about Palace and wanting the best for the club.

Edited by doombear (29 Jul 2020 3.09pm)