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Originally posted by nickgusset
Go on, what does it say about me? I'll leave it for others to decide.
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
I'll leave it for others to decide. So it was just a slur for slur's sake. Good work.
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Originally posted by nickgusset
So it was just a slur for slur's sake. Good work. I think you know deep down that you are an attention seeker with a victim complex. Spare me your faux outrage.
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
I think you know deep down that you are an attention seeker with a victim complex. Spare me your faux outrage. oh dear. -.-'
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Originally posted by nickgusset
oh dear. -.-' Didn't you realise?
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Didn't you realise? I did, I've known for a long time about you. Faced with evidence or something that you disagree with, you resort to petty insults rather than addressing the issue and giving your pearls of wisdom as to why you disagree. So just to clarify, what is so wrong with the Government publication that was out pre referendum that it shows everyone what i'm like.
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Originally posted by nickgusset
I did, I've known for a long time about you. Faced with evidence or something that you disagree with, you resort to petty insults rather than addressing the issue and giving your pearls of wisdom as to why you disagree. So just to clarify, what is so wrong with the Government publication that was out pre referendum that it shows everyone what i'm like. So what you are saying is that you are pointing out something that has been known all along and by doing so you are somehow suggesting that the whole referendum was a waste of time since Parliament could ignore it if they didn't like the result. This would of course please you and the other remoaners who voted remain because in the end you couldn't give a s*** about democracy or public opinion just getting you own way at any cost.
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
So what you are saying is that you are pointing out something that has been known all along and by doing so you are somehow suggesting that the whole referendum was a waste of time since Parliament could ignore it if they didn't like the result. This would of course please you and the other remoaners who voted remain because in the end you couldn't give a s*** about democracy or public opinion just getting you own way at any cost. Something that has been known all along, yet seemingly a surprise to many! As I've said on many occasions, it was only my worry about what Cameron and co would replace many of the rights the eu afforded us with that swayed me to vote remain ( a decision I didn't make final until I was in the polling station) Edited by nickgusset (08 Nov 2016 10.10pm)
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
So what you are saying is that you are pointing out something that has been known all along and by doing so you are somehow suggesting that the whole referendum was a waste of time since Parliament could ignore it if they didn't like the result. This would of course please you and the other remoaners who voted remain because in the end you couldn't give a s*** about democracy or public opinion just getting you own way at any cost. Nicola Sturgeon want's to implement the democratic will of the Scottish people who voted 62% to remain by not leaving the EU or, at the very least, the single market. As someone who cares about 'democracy' so much I take it you would respect her stance? Catch is, of course, it could scupper one or two things but as democracy is king that shouldn't matter.
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Originally posted by Kermit8
Nicola Sturgeon want's to implement the democratic will of the Scottish people who voted 62% to remain by not leaving the EU or, at the very least, the single market. As someone who cares about 'democracy' so much I take it you would respect her stance? Catch is, of course, it could scupper one or two things but as democracy is king that shouldn't matter. Scotland, until they're allowed another independence refendum, is an integral part of the UK. Whilst that continues to be the case, their clamouring to remain in the EU is about as relevant and pointless as the inhabitants of Manchester, Haslemere or Chipping Sodbury doing the same thing.
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Originally posted by OknotOK
That definitely implies either you think they are the same thing, or you think Hague and Osborne do? Would also be interested in what economic stats you're referring to. The BBC is not my source of economic news and the economic stats I see are mostly mixed, rather than pointing one direction clearly. Soz, my mistake. It should've read 'and QE'.
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Originally posted by Cucking Funt
Scotland, until they're allowed another independence refendum, is an integral part of the UK. Whilst that continues to be the case, their clamouring to remain in the EU is about as relevant and pointless as the inhabitants of Manchester, Haslemere or Chipping Sodbury doing the same thing. Well it won't be pointless if she wins the legal argument that the Scottish Parliament have the right to vote on 'Out' policy too. They are going to go for it.
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Originally posted by Cucking Funt
Scotland, until they're allowed another independence refendum, is an integral part of the UK. Whilst that continues to be the case, their clamouring to remain in the EU is about as relevant and pointless as the inhabitants of Manchester, Haslemere or Chipping Sodbury doing the same thing. I think the SNP will likely get more support out of the Brexit decision, given the proximity to their independence referendum, and the outright rejection across Scotland for leaving the EU - or they'll negotiate a deal with the EU to remain part, whilst functionally also part of the UK (possible as part of the EEA or some such).
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
I think the SNP will likely get more support out of the Brexit decision, given the proximity to their independence referendum, and the outright rejection across Scotland for leaving the EU - or they'll negotiate a deal with the EU to remain part, whilst functionally also part of the UK (possible as part of the EEA or some such). The SNP do not have a majority in Holyrood.
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Originally posted by Kermit8
Nicola Sturgeon want's to implement the democratic will of the Scottish people who voted 62% to remain by not leaving the EU or, at the very least, the single market. As someone who cares about 'democracy' so much I take it you would respect her stance? Catch is, of course, it could scupper one or two things but as democracy is king that shouldn't matter.
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
So, basically, if they (the Scots) have the legal right to take 'Out' proposals to their own Parliament for scrutiny, are you of the opinion that the will of the 62% of Scottish people via their MPs should be ignored if they don't give the proposals the thumbs-up?
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
And a very small part of Britain/UK too. Scotland's population is about 7% of the whole UK population. So as Cucking says... it is no more relevant than somewhere like Greater Manchester. Your assessment of Sturgeon is spot on.... she is an opportunist too and milking this situation for her own agenda.
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Originally posted by Kermit8
So, basically, if they (the Scots) have the legal right to take 'Out' proposals to their own Parliament for scrutiny, are you of the opinion that the will of the 62% of Scottish people via their MPs should be ignored if they don't give the proposals the thumbs-up? Scotland is an insignificant part of Britain in terms of population and it is scandalous that they can influence Parliament with a tiny proportion of votes.
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Scotland is an insignificant part of Britain in terms of population and it is scandalous that they can influence Parliament with a tiny proportion of votes. Ok, fair enough. So legally, if they have the right, it seems you are of the opinion that democracy for Scotland and the will of the Scottish people should be ignored. You must imagine though that it would also feel scandalous to the hefty majority of Scots who want to Remain that they may be forced to Leave. It is understandable surely to even the most ardent Brexiteer who does truly care about democracy that they do have a point. And, possibly, a legally binding one. We shall see.
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Originally posted by Kermit8
Ok, fair enough. So legally, if they have the right, it seems you are of the opinion that democracy for Scotland and the will of the Scottish people should be ignored. You must imagine though that it would also feel scandalous to the hefty majority of Scots who want to Remain that they may be forced to Leave. It is understandable surely to even the most ardent Brexiteer who does truly care about democracy that they do have a point. And, possibly, a legally binding one. We shall see. No. It was the will of British people to vote Brexit and the will of the Scottish people to vote to remain in the union.
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