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Jimenez Flag SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 22 Nov 16 11.55am

Originally posted by Kermit8

Latest news: Canada puts the blocks on any hope of a quick trade deal with the UK after Brexit.

Ah, well.

Thanks, chaps.

Small fry anyway. Expect to get preferential treatment under a Trump presidency which would more than make up for it.

 

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steeleye20 Flag Croydon 22 Nov 16 11.56am

Trade deals can't see them at all as Mrs May knows already her overtures all politely turned down - thats why its 'free trade' now.

This does not mean that you get loads of free stuff from all over the World as my brexiter daughter thinks haha.

 
steeleye20 Flag Croydon 22 Nov 16 12.30pm

Originally posted by Jimenez

Small fry anyway. Expect to get preferential treatment under a Trump presidency which would more than make up for it.

Is that direct from Trump Towers? I think not


 
susmik Flag PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 22 Nov 16 2.04pm

My steeley20 you are one big barrel of fun are you not...I think your daughter must have you sussed out as well by the sound of it!

 

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Jimenez Flag SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 22 Nov 16 2.22pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

Is that direct from Trump Towers? I think not


Probably not, but a bit more reliable than a retort from Croydon!!

 

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steeleye20 Flag Croydon 22 Nov 16 3.50pm

Originally posted by Jimenez

Probably not, but a bit more reliable than a retort from Croydon!!

ok why are you saying that Trump would give preferential treatment to UK what do you mean?

 
Nest Flag 22 Nov 16 8.57pm

FT News - David Davis sows confusion over Brexit stance on single market
[Link]

 
Kermit8 Flag Hevon 22 Nov 16 10.05pm

Originally posted by Nest

FT News - David Davis sows confusion over Brexit stance on single market
[Link]

You will need to copy and paste as paywall in op.

 

Big chest and massive boobs

[Link]
Nest Flag 22 Nov 16 11.39pm

ok thanks

Business Insider then

[Link]

 
Nest Flag 22 Nov 16 11.43pm

or the Independent

[Link]

 
matt_himself Flag Matataland 23 Nov 16 7.07am

CBI took money from Brussels:

[Link]

One wonders whether this influenced any of the materials they produced, which Michael gleefully posts on here, stating how bad Brexit would be for the country?

Hope they clear that up for us.

 

"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02
Kermit8 Flag Hevon 23 Nov 16 8.19am

Originally posted by matt_himself

CBI took money from Brussels:

[Link]

One wonders whether this influenced any of the materials they produced, which Michael gleefully posts on here, stating how bad Brexit would be for the country?

Hope they clear that up for us.

The CBI receives around £150,000 per year from the European Commission especially for them to produce surveys of business opinion. Do you think for the sake of a measly 0.6% of annual income they would purposely choose to engage in misrepresentation?

Of course you do.

 

Big chest and massive boobs

[Link]
jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 23 Nov 16 9.24am

Originally posted by Jimenez

Small fry anyway. Expect to get preferential treatment under a Trump presidency which would more than make up for it.

I doubt it. Isolationist outlook - We'll only get preferential treatment on the US best interests, and even then we'll have less capacity to influence the deal than the EU would have (and certainly much less leverage).

We'll be ok, but I don't for a minute think we'll be personally financially better off out of the EU. I think some people will greatly profit from the assorted trade deals, but that won't be the general population except by 'accident over design'.

 

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matt_himself Flag Matataland 23 Nov 16 9.36am

Originally posted by Kermit8

The CBI receives around £150,000 per year from the European Commission especially for them to produce surveys of business opinion. Do you think for the sake of a measly 0.6% of annual income they would purposely choose to engage in misrepresentation?

Of course you do.

Let's engage in Kermitics - can you prove they haven't?

I asked you previously - which tellingly you didn't answer - whether you thought that the Remain camp had 'sexed up' the dire premonitions of societal and economic collapse following a Leave vote. The fact that one of the largest contributors to the Remain propaganda campaign received money from Brussels must make you think that maybe you were being spoon fed false information that you lapped up and subsquentialy defecated over these boards to support your position on the referendum and the result. You have said numerous times that the Leave campaign utilised the 'extreme right [sic]' media to perpetuate myths about the EU, why the reluctance to question those who support your views?

 

"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02
steeleye20 Flag Croydon 23 Nov 16 9.57am

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

I doubt it. Isolationist outlook - We'll only get preferential treatment on the US best interests, and even then we'll have less capacity to influence the deal than the EU would have (and certainly much less leverage).

We'll be ok, but I don't for a minute think we'll be personally financially better off out of the EU. I think some people will greatly profit from the assorted trade deals, but that won't be the general population except by 'accident over design'.

Far from preferential treatment Trump thinks Europe should pay much more for NATO quite justifiably IMO

 
Stuk Flag Top half 23 Nov 16 12.44pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

Far from preferential treatment Trump thinks Europe should pay much more for NATO quite justifiably IMO

Some in Europe, not us.

The French, Germans, Italians. Turks if you count them as European.

 

Optimistic as ever
steeleye20 Flag Croydon 23 Nov 16 1.16pm

Well I think with Trump who knows what will actually happen - from his speeches he does recognise now that a few members pay 2% of GDP for NATO but he doesn't want to defend countries who don't and could drag his country into WW3. But its all up in the air.

 
OknotOK Flag Cockfosters, London 23 Nov 16 2.29pm

Originally posted by matt_himself

Let's engage in Kermitics - can you prove they haven't?

I asked you previously - which tellingly you didn't answer - whether you thought that the Remain camp had 'sexed up' the dire premonitions of societal and economic collapse following a Leave vote. The fact that one of the largest contributors to the Remain propaganda campaign received money from Brussels must make you think that maybe you were being spoon fed false information that you lapped up and subsquentialy defecated over these boards to support your position on the referendum and the result. You have said numerous times that the Leave campaign utilised the 'extreme right [sic]' media to perpetuate myths about the EU, why the reluctance to question those who support your views?

Bit of a pointless argument surely? Yes obviously the Remain camp sexed up the catastrophic predictions. Just as the Brexit campaign hugely sexed up the potential benefits of leaving.

You've got Justin King saying today ( [Link] ) that prices at the supermarket are going to increase 5%. He should know the likely outcome given he spent 10 years looking at forecasts and results for Sainsburys.

Edited by OknotOK (23 Nov 2016 2.29pm)

 

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matt_himself Flag Matataland 23 Nov 16 2.54pm

Originally posted by OknotOK

Bit of a pointless argument surely? Yes obviously the Remain camp sexed up the catastrophic predictions. Just as the Brexit campaign hugely sexed up the potential benefits of leaving.

You've got Justin King saying today ( [Link] ) that prices at the supermarket are going to increase 5%. He should know the likely outcome given he spent 10 years looking at forecasts and results for Sainsburys.

Edited by OknotOK (23 Nov 2016 2.29pm)

"Mr King, who backed the Remain campaign in the referendum"

 

"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02
OknotOK Flag Cockfosters, London 23 Nov 16 3.12pm

Originally posted by matt_himself

"Mr King, who backed the Remain campaign in the referendum"

Yes. So what? How exactly does that make his considered views on the economic impact less valid? He lost - he's not trying to get the decision reversed. It's his view of the world going forward.

Is no one allowed to express a view now because they had a view on the referendum one way or the other. It's pathetic that the best you can do to try and discredit the views he is espousing is that.

Edited by OknotOK (23 Nov 2016 3.13pm)

 

"It's almost like a moral decision. Except not really cos noone is going to find out," Jez, Peep Show
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