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 Rudi Hedman  Caterham 25 Jun 16 4.11pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
At least slightly more than half of Britain has balls. Great countries aren't fashioned by faint hearts. Brexit is a positive and will be regarded as a positive long term. It will be difficult due to the EU's reaction but in the long term this country will succeed and govern itself. Believers in the nation state all around Europe are rejoicing and the federalists and globalists have had this coming: undemocratic bully boys. Viva democracy. Bravo. F***ing bravo. Let's have it. But don't expect 'You were right then' from the sour grapes and PC, fashionable to suddenly embrace the EU brigade when it's proven we were right.
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| Canterbury Palace Whitstable 25 Jun 16 4.11pm |
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Jesus Christ, anybody else sick to death of it all now? I can't go on Facebook to look at random girls' holiday photos without seeing endless whinging on there. Based purely on what I've seen on my social media, two questions spring to mind. If we can agree that racism has generalisation at its core, how is blanketly labelling 17 million people as uneducated, bigoted morons any superior from a moral standpoint? Similarly, how does one justify calling others right wing whilst simultaneously refusing to accept any view or political outcome different to their own, which I would argue is a very dangerous parallel to the historic right wing?
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| chris123 hove actually 25 Jun 16 4.13pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
People really should not believe everything they read, whatever the source, do their own research, ask questions and be a bit sceptical!!
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Kermit8  Hevon 25 Jun 16 4.15pm |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
Bravo. F***ing bravo. Let's have it. But don't expect 'You were right then' from the sour grapes and PC, fashionable to suddenly embrace the EU brigade when it's proven we were right.
Edited by Kermit8 (25 Jun 2016 4.16pm)
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| matt_himself Matataland 25 Jun 16 4.18pm |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
Edited by Kermit8 (25 Jun 2016 4.16pm) Michael, are you going to answer my previous question about Remain's vision and how it was going to solve the housing 'crisis' and all the stuff you were going on about a few pages ago?
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 25 Jun 16 4.18pm |
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Originally posted by Rubin
No one knows for sure what will happen long term. My guess is that we'll look at EU in 5/10/20 years and think 'thank God we got out when we did', and that's if there's even one left to look at. I'm not sure why the kids are panicking so much about not being able to work in Europe in the future. I'd guess about 1% of them could work over there now due to the lack of jobs, and I think that'll only worsen. If they've got the skills to get a decent job out there, they'll get a work visa anyway. The markets/pound etc were always going to get hit due to uncertainty, and they've had an extra impact from all the gambling that we'd remain. The effects have been no where near as bad as predicted. We can now be a global country instead of just a European one, without any restrictions put on us. Edited by Rubin (25 Jun 2016 10.40am) Spot on in bold. 'we'll look at EU in 5/10/20 years and think 'thank God we got ouin 5/10/20 years and think 'thank God we got out when we did', and that's if there's even one left to look at.' 'I'm not sure why the kids are panicking so much about not being able to work in Europe in the future. I'd guess about 1% of them could work over there now due to the lack of jobs, and I think that'll only worsen. If they've got the skills to get a decent job out there, they'll get a work visa anyway.'
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| Kermit8 Hevon 25 Jun 16 4.19pm |
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Standing down UK'S EU Commissioner Lord Hill ""I came to Brussels as someone who had campaigned against Britain joining the euro and who was sceptical about Europe. But, obviously, the 17million know better than this fella.
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| Kermit8 Hevon 25 Jun 16 4.20pm |
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Originally posted by matt_himself
Michael, are you going to answer my previous question about Remain's vision and how it was going to solve the housing 'crisis' and all the stuff you were going on about a few pages ago? Wait your turn. Time of the month?
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 25 Jun 16 4.22pm |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
Remember that time Nigel Farage said 52%-48% split should lead to second referendum? Calling a small defeat for his leave camp ‘unfinished business’, he predicted a second referendum on Europe. Edited by Kermit8 (25 Jun 2016 4.03pm) Problem is you could end up having referendum after referendum with getting nowhere, especially on a 75% Turnout and 65% minimum. The problem is that people see things as something that is won or lost, and they're missing the point entirely, its about deciding how the country will progress. I wouldn't rule out the possibility in the more distant future of a second referendum of re-joining the EU - but for now, its about how to make the most out of leaving the EU, for the UK and its citizens.
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| Kermit8 Hevon 25 Jun 16 4.24pm |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
Problem is you could end up having referendum after referendum with getting nowhere, especially on a 75% Turnout and 65% minimum. The problem is that people see things as something that is won or lost, and they're missing the point entirely, its about deciding how the country will progress. I wouldn't rule out the possibility in the more distant future of a second referendum of re-joining the EU - but for now, its about how to make the most out of leaving the EU, for the UK and its citizens. With a very right-wing cadre in power? Don't hold your breath.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 25 Jun 16 4.27pm |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
Spot on in bold. 'we'll look at EU in 5/10/20 years and think 'thank God we got ouin 5/10/20 years and think 'thank God we got out when we did', and that's if there's even one left to look at.' 'I'm not sure why the kids are panicking so much about not being able to work in Europe in the future. I'd guess about 1% of them could work over there now due to the lack of jobs, and I think that'll only worsen. If they've got the skills to get a decent job out there, they'll get a work visa anyway.' Maybe, maybe not. I don't think its easy to be that sure. Leave could turn out to be a disaster, as well. Thing of the EU is that there is good and bad, and same with leaving it, there can be good and bad. That's irrelivent, though, its about what the people want, not what is the right idea.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 25 Jun 16 4.31pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Yes some saw through the 350 million lie but many many didn't and feel duped. I note you didn't comment on the UKIP mep's comment about free movement of Labour. I apologise for my comments yesterday. Was below the belt. Pensions are a bit stuffed ain't they with the fall in share prices. If your persuaded to vote leave, by a man and political party, that is entirely based around leaving the EU, then its 'you' that are the problem. Of course they're biased. Their attraction has always been that they have been appealing to those who feel alienated by the EU and deserted by Government, and sold for corporate profits.
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