It's all assumptions isn't it! That's the point.

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Keir is to busy grabbing the headlines doing his best for Britain by selecting wallpapers and drinking beer in working men's clubs,rather than putting forward alternative policies.

That was regarding the economic impact of Brexit. Not whether the UK would have been forced to follow the EU's path on vaccine procurement. There is evidence in plain view for the first. The second can only be speculation.

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Because Cameron told them that he would win. The EU believed the pollsters and all the experts.

The Government, the opposition, the Trade Unions, the CBI, the big banks, the pop stars, the footballers, in short anybody who liked to believe they understood the UK were on the Remain side.

Simply put, why should they give Cameron anything? No point. And even if the referendum did not go their way, then they would just ensure it happened again and again until the right result was obtained.

Hence why the EU are still in complete denial about what happened. There was a great quote in amongst all the news about talks with Norway falling apart. Apparently its down to the British being to hung up on principles. Seriously. This has been quoted from an EU official.

“What makes the U.K. often stick to its guns is a matter of principle, it’s political. What we feel is that we prefer to have an agreement, because otherwise it would set a very bad precedent for the very sensitive negotiations on fishing opportunities that we face.”

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

Of course it hasn't! It's not been suggested otherwise.

Only that there is evidence to support the assertion that it isn't going too well.

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Keir suffered a mauling from Rachel on 5 live this morning because of his inability to make any decisions on key subjects like social care or the new traffic lights travel proposals.
He really should become the patron saint of loss causes!!

Yet again, more opinion trying to be passed off as fact.

There is no evidence to say things are going badly, only opinion. Many are delighted at how things are going. We were led to believe that the sky would fall in once we left and yet life is ticking along just fine.

"It feels much better than it ever did, much more sensitive." John Wayne Bobbit

It is. But the reality for Labour is that if they ever want to be in with a chance of forming a Government again, the only measure of success for them is how well they do at persuading people who voted either for the Brexit Party on the Conservatives based on Brexit, to vote for them.

And Labour won in Hartlepool in 2019. This not a seat for them to gain but to defend.

If they lose it then it is a shocking inditement of how steep the hill is they have to climb if they want to stay relevant in British politics.

Losing tomorrow is catastrophic for them. And if the Unions insist that Starmer steps down in the wake of it, and threaten to withdraw their funding if he does not, then the Labour Party is facing a crisis in terms of why it even exists anymore.

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

Brexit party may have skewed that vote surely?

You have to laugh.

'.@BorisJohnson has delivered #Brexit #tradedeals and jobs for #Harlepool along with a #Freeport and 180,000 well paid jobs. #Conservatives deliver, we get stuff done.
#HartlepoolByElection'.

Nadine Dorries - Tory minister.

You Certainly do, Nadine, Hartlepool's population is only 92,000.

She can't spell Hartlepool either.