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kev64 Flag Cambs 06 Apr 21 5.28pm

The only only change I can see is CW, Sakho and J mC leaving, with a couple of Championship players coming in.

A complete overhaul of the club management and players in 2 months a recipe for FDB type free fall.

 

pstrutt Flag Busselton, WA 07 Apr 21 6.06am

Now Roma's outgoing Manager Paulo Fonseca is doing the rounds!!

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So I manage a Workshop which provides a safe learning environment for blokes struggling with PTSD and other mental health issues. Being a Palace fan isn't listed yet.

Midlands Eagle Flag 07 Apr 21 6.26am

Originally posted by JRW2


Which are they? Just asking.

A couple of journalists from The Athletic including Chris Woosnam and Dom Fifield and Chris Waters on Twitter seems to be right more often than he is wrong

 

Jacey Flag 07 Apr 21 10.06am

Howe having second thoughts??

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eagleman13 Flag On The Road To Hell & Alicante 07 Apr 21 10.29am

Originally posted by Jacey

Howe having second thoughts??

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Here's a thought, assuming we are looking for a new manager, why dont we gazump Celtic & get Favre & leave Howe out of it

 


This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.

babylonjohn Flag St Leonards-on-Sea 07 Apr 21 10.29am

Originally posted by Phil’s Barber

Not the way everything is shaping up. Parish is clearly looking to replace him. I will be amazed if Roy is still our manager for next season.

Prepare to be amazed. Unless Roy steps down for health reasons Parish will be reluctant to fix something thats not broken.

Edited by babylonjohn (07 Apr 2021 10.30am)

 

Jacey Flag 07 Apr 21 10.39am

Originally posted by babylonjohn

Prepare to be amazed. Unless Roy steps down for health reasons Parish will be reluctant to fix something thats not broken.

Edssited by babylonjohn (07 Apr 2021 10.30am)

Probably an accurate assessment.
Parish burnt his hands badly with the FDB experience and will possibly look to Roy to keep us up for yet another season,by giving him a one year extension.

 

silvertop Flag Portishead 07 Apr 21 10.41am

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

A couple of journalists from The Athletic including Chris Woosnam and Dom Fifield and Chris Waters on Twitter seems to be right more often than he is wrong

Didn't know about Waters, but the other 2 do appear to have the ear. Fifield, in particular, is one who appears to have a long standing relationship and, I suspect, would not prejudice that by printing anything scurrilous.

 

ex hibitionist Flag Hastings 07 Apr 21 11.40am

Parish won't have been happy with some of the performances this season and the state of the squad demands significant change, but Roy has been a victim of circumstance, if he was given the funds to build a squad as good as the one he took over from (Cabaye and Loftus Cheek in midfield) we'd no doubt get a lot more of the performances we saw away at Everton and a lot less of the defensive dross we've witnessed when an unbalanced, ageing squad has been ravaged by injuries.

Having said that a squad rebuild is not that feasible in the hands of a 73 year old and would be better in the hands of someone who has the time to see the project through. Brighty and Morrison know what's going on, and Clinton has has said the club are looking to make a change - if Roy stays it would only be for one more year and our targets might not be available then. If Howe rejects Celtic I can see him coming here, Dyche is not far behind - I can't see Parish taking a punt on Steve Cooper (whose tactics are widely criticised by Swansea fans) or the temperamental Portuguese. If the first two are not available then I can see Roy getting another year, but I don't think he'd be replaced by the other two. We may try and do a Southampton and find an obscure foreign gem, but we tried it once and failed miserably.

 

slubglurge Flag welling 07 Apr 21 2.20pm

Originally posted by ex hibitionist

Parish won't have been happy with some of the performances this season and the state of the squad demands significant change, but Roy has been a victim of circumstance, if he was given the funds to build a squad as good as the one he took over from (Cabaye and Loftus Cheek in midfield) we'd no doubt get a lot more of the performances we saw away at Everton and a lot less of the defensive dross we've witnessed when an unbalanced, ageing squad has been ravaged by injuries.

Having said that a squad rebuild is not that feasible in the hands of a 73 year old and would be better in the hands of someone who has the time to see the project through. Brighty and Morrison know what's going on, and Clinton has has said the club are looking to make a change - if Roy stays it would only be for one more year and our targets might not be available then. If Howe rejects Celtic I can see him coming here, Dyche is not far behind - I can't see Parish taking a punt on Steve Cooper (whose tactics are widely criticised by Swansea fans) or the temperamental Portuguese. If the first two are not available then I can see Roy getting another year, but I don't think he'd be replaced by the other two. We may try and do a Southampton and find an obscure foreign gem, but we tried it once and failed miserably.

FdB was not obscure though. He turned out to be just a tw*t

 

TheBigToePunt Flag 07 Apr 21 2.33pm

Originally posted by slubglurge

FdB was not obscure though. He turned out to be just a tw*t

I would say the extent of his t***tery was obscured from view until he was in post, then it became clear very quickly. Makes me wonder what questions they asked the bloke at interview?

Did they ask him to explain how he would use the (then current) squad? FDB apparently told a few of them he didn't want them before they had even kicked a ball for him. Did Parish and Freedman know he would do that?

Whoever gets the job next will surely be asked to set out how they will use what we have to best effect.

Edited by TheBigToePunt (07 Apr 2021 2.34pm)

 

taylors lovechild Flag 07 Apr 21 4.18pm

Parish has publicly stated that FdB was a real gentleman and a nice guy and it was just a case of they quickly realised he was not the right fit at that time. Parish could have been lying, but he said this long after he left so I see no reason why he would say that.

One pundit (Leon Osman) made the obvious point the other night when he said that if Palace are focusing on developing the squad for the future then that takes four or five years and you don't employ a 73-year-old man to oversee that realistically. I think he'll go as we haven't heard any positive noises to suggest otherwise from the club or the manager, and Roy's demeanour increasingly whiffs of one who is heading to the gallows (and perhaps thinks it somewhat unfair).

 

Putitout Flag Oxford 07 Apr 21 4.45pm

Originally posted by taylors lovechild


One pundit (Leon Osman) made the obvious point the other night when he said that if Palace are focusing on developing the squad for the future then that takes four or five years and you don't employ a 73-year-old man to oversee that realistically. I think he'll go as we haven't heard any positive noises to suggest otherwise from the club or the manager, and Roy's demeanour increasingly whiffs of one who is heading to the gallows (and perhaps thinks it somewhat unfair).


Oman’s,right about the timing involved in developing a squad for the future. And it’s not likely you would put that task in the hands of a 73 year old.
But surely the task should have been handed in a far more positive way than has been the case to a 69 year old four years ago.
Not of course in one hit but certainly a genuine building for the future beyond what we have seen.
Let’s face it if this happens now it’s virtually from scratch, and five years , with the guidance of an extremely talented pair of hands might well be needed to still be in this division in five years.

 

Eagle Black. Flag South Croydon 07 Apr 21 4.56pm

There's been rumours in the Bournemouth area for a few weeks now that Howe to Palace next season is done.

Don't know if anyone else has heard this.

 

davehuggins Flag 07 Apr 21 5.29pm

No proof black eagle but have been told the same

 

ex hibitionist Flag Hastings 07 Apr 21 6.46pm

but the Celtic noises are saying it's a case of 'when' rather than 'if' he takes over up there ... a statement was due and it's turned out to be a fudge so Howe could still be coming to us, though there aren't many experienced candidates lining up for the Celtic job, Howe is well out in front.

 

TheBigToePunt Flag 07 Apr 21 8.05pm

I don't get this idea of a 'squad for the future'. We might need, or want, a younger squad, than we've currently got, but it has to be good enough to win games straight away or we get relegated.

In that sense I see no reason why Roy can't coach a younger squad next season, and someone else takes over the year after, or whenever Roy does retire.

 

Eagle Black. Flag South Croydon 07 Apr 21 9.07pm

Originally posted by TheBigToePunt

I don't get this idea of a 'squad for the future'. We might need, or want, a younger squad, than we've currently got, but it has to be good enough to win games straight away or we get relegated.

In that sense I see no reason why Roy can't coach a younger squad next season, and someone else takes over the year after, or whenever Roy does retire.

Roy doesn't do playing youth on a consistant basis.

I hope Roy Goes if i'm honest.

 

Jacey Flag 07 Apr 21 9.09pm

Howe reportedly house hunting in Glasgow,not Croydon!!

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ex hibitionist Flag Hastings 07 Apr 21 9.14pm

Originally posted by TheBigToePunt

I don't get this idea of a 'squad for the future'. We might need, or want, a younger squad, than we've currently got, but it has to be good enough to win games straight away or we get relegated.

In that sense I see no reason why Roy can't coach a younger squad next season, and someone else takes over the year after, or whenever Roy does retire.

I think the rebuild thing is bcos the squad doesn't just need a tweak here or there, we need at least one decent central defender under the age of 30, two central midfielders (all pairings from the two Macs, Luka and Jairo aren't really much cop), and very probably a replacement for Zaha and an upgrade on Townsend - it's not just incremental change but a clear picture of what the squad needs and the best direction for it to go in, a bit of vision in other words. It will take more than one window to sort it out and Roy might be a short-term option but he's not a long-term option, and the squad is at a bit of a a crossroads.

 

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