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matt_himself Matataland 23 Nov 16 3.45pm
Originally posted by OknotOK Yes. So what? How exactly does that make his considered views on the economic impact less valid? He lost - he's not trying to get the decision reversed. It's his view of the world going forward. Is no one allowed to express a view now because they had a view on the referendum one way or the other. It's pathetic that the best you can do to try and discredit the views he is espousing is that. Edited by OknotOK (23 Nov 2016 3.13pm) You're misinterpreting what I am saying and not seeing the bigger picture. I have never said that no one can provide a view on the referendum. What I have said is that people, who have agendas with regards Brexit and, in particular, have campaigned one way or the other, should be questionned when they make scare stories. The bigger picture is that the Remain campaign is now actively seeking to stop Article 50 being invoked. They are doing this through court cases, publishing scare stories in the media and actively recruiting people to shoot this down, in the courts or in parliament. It looks like Tony Blair will comeback to fight. Alastair Campbell has said that the Remain camp should use any tool possible to stop Brexit happening. Groups of Remain MP's, a cross party consortium, are reportedly seeking to block Brexit in the Commons and the Lords. Owen Smith has said that he will reject Brexit ties in the Commons in order to stop Brexit. I believe that not all is at is appears and that the Remainers will stop at nothing to stop the will of the people. "That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

matt_himself

Matataland 23 Nov 16 3.45pm

Originally posted by OknotOK

Yes. So what? How exactly does that make his considered views on the economic impact less valid? He lost - he's not trying to get the decision reversed. It's his view of the world going forward.

Is no one allowed to express a view now because they had a view on the referendum one way or the other. It's pathetic that the best you can do to try and discredit the views he is espousing is that.

Edited by OknotOK (23 Nov 2016 3.13pm)

You're misinterpreting what I am saying and not seeing the bigger picture.

I have never said that no one can provide a view on the referendum.

What I have said is that people, who have agendas with regards Brexit and, in particular, have campaigned one way or the other, should be questionned when they make scare stories.

The bigger picture is that the Remain campaign is now actively seeking to stop Article 50 being invoked. They are doing this through court cases, publishing scare stories in the media and actively recruiting people to shoot this down, in the courts or in parliament. It looks like Tony Blair will comeback to fight. Alastair Campbell has said that the Remain camp should use any tool possible to stop Brexit happening. Groups of Remain MP's, a cross party consortium, are reportedly seeking to block Brexit in the Commons and the Lords. Owen Smith has said that he will reject Brexit ties in the Commons in order to stop Brexit.

I believe that not all is at is appears and that the Remainers will stop at nothing to stop the will of the people.

"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

DanH SW2 23 Nov 16 3.47pm
Originally posted by matt_himself You're misinterpreting what I am saying and not seeing the bigger picture. I have never said that no one can provide a view on the referendum. What I have said is that people, who have agendas with regards Brexit and, in particular, have campaigned one way or the other, should be questionned when they make scare stories. The bigger picture is that the Remain campaign is now actively seeking to stop Article 50 being invoked. They are doing this through court cases, publishing scare stories in the media and actively recruiting people to shoot this down, in the courts or in parliament. It looks like Tony Blair will comeback to fight. Alastair Campbell has said that the Remain camp should use any tool possible to stop Brexit happening. Groups of Remain MP's, a cross party consortium, are reportedly seeking to block Brexit in the Commons and the Lords. Owen Smith has said that he will reject Brexit ties in the Commons in order to stop Brexit. I believe that not all is at is appears and that the Remainers will stop at nothing to stop the will of the people. Hoist with your own petard there, Matthew.

DanH

SW2 23 Nov 16 3.47pm

Originally posted by matt_himself

You're misinterpreting what I am saying and not seeing the bigger picture.

I have never said that no one can provide a view on the referendum.

What I have said is that people, who have agendas with regards Brexit and, in particular, have campaigned one way or the other, should be questionned when they make scare stories.

I believe that not all is at is appears and that the Remainers will stop at nothing to stop the will of the people.

Hoist with your own petard there, Matthew.

matt_himself Matataland 23 Nov 16 4.03pm
Originally posted by DanH Hoist with your own petard there, Matthew. How? Am I writing articles detailing dubious statistics for periodicals? Am I a person who commentates on issues of national importance to an audience of millions? The answer is no to both because I was talking about the reaction and action of the Remain establishment in the above, not people conveying personal views on a football website. "That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

matt_himself

Matataland 23 Nov 16 4.03pm

Originally posted by DanH

Hoist with your own petard there, Matthew.

How? Am I writing articles detailing dubious statistics for periodicals? Am I a person who commentates on issues of national importance to an audience of millions? The answer is no to both because I was talking about the reaction and action of the Remain establishment in the above, not people conveying personal views on a football website.

"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

Kermit8 Hevon 23 Nov 16 4.42pm
From the FT commnets section: Leavers “We voted Brexit, now You Remainers need to implement it” Remainers “But it’s not possible!” Leavers “The People Have Spoken. Therefore it is possible. You just have to think positively.” Remainers “And do what exactly?” Leavers “Come up with a Plan that will leave us all better off outside the EU than in it” Remainers “But it’s not possible!” Leavers “Quit with the negative vibes. The People Have Spoken.” Remainers “But even you don’t know how!” Leavers “That’s your problem, we’ve done our bit and voted, we’re going to sit here and eat popcorn and watch as you do it.” Remainers “Shouldn’t you do it?” Leavers “It’s not up to us to work out the detail, it’s up to you experts.” Remainers “I thought you’d had enough of experts” Leavers “Remain experts.” Remainers “There are no Leave experts” Leavers “Then you’ll have to do it then. Oh, and by the way, no dragging your feet or complaining about it, because if you do a deal we don’t want, we’ll eat you alive.” Remainers “But you don’t know what you want!” Leavers “We want massive economic growth, no migration, free trade with the EU and every other country, on our terms, the revival of British industry, re-open the coal mines, tea and vicars on every village green, some bunting, and maybe restoration of the empire.” Remainers “You’re delusional.” Leavers “We’re a delusional majority. DEMOCRACY! So do the thing that isn’t possible, very quickly, and give all Leavers what they want, even though they don’t know what they want, and ignore the 16 million other voters who disagree. They’re tight trouser latte-sipping hipsters who whine all the time, who cares.” By Ishtar Ostaria Source: ft.com Big chest and massive boobs [Link]

Kermit8

Hevon 23 Nov 16 4.42pm

From the FT commnets section:

Leavers “We voted Brexit, now You Remainers need to implement it”

Remainers “But it’s not possible!”

Leavers “The People Have Spoken. Therefore it is possible. You just have to think positively.”

Remainers “And do what exactly?”

Leavers “Come up with a Plan that will leave us all better off outside the EU than in it”

Remainers “But it’s not possible!”

Leavers “Quit with the negative vibes. The People Have Spoken.”

Remainers “But even you don’t know how!”

Leavers “That’s your problem, we’ve done our bit and voted, we’re going to sit here and eat popcorn and watch as you do it.”

Remainers “Shouldn’t you do it?”

Leavers “It’s not up to us to work out the detail, it’s up to you experts.”

Remainers “I thought you’d had enough of experts”

Leavers “Remain experts.”

Remainers “There are no Leave experts”

Leavers “Then you’ll have to do it then. Oh, and by the way, no dragging your feet or complaining about it, because if you do a deal we don’t want, we’ll eat you alive.”

Remainers “But you don’t know what you want!”

Leavers “We want massive economic growth, no migration, free trade with the EU and every other country, on our terms, the revival of British industry, re-open the coal mines, tea and vicars on every village green, some bunting, and maybe restoration of the empire.”

Remainers “You’re delusional.”

Leavers “We’re a delusional majority. DEMOCRACY! So do the thing that isn’t possible, very quickly, and give all Leavers what they want, even though they don’t know what they want, and ignore the 16 million other voters who disagree. They’re tight trouser latte-sipping hipsters who whine all the time, who cares.”

By Ishtar Ostaria
Source: ft.com

Big chest and massive boobs

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chris123 hove actually 23 Nov 16 5.43pm
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hove actually 23 Nov 16 5.43pm

Here is the cartoon version.

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 23 Nov 16 7.29pm
Originally posted by Kermit8 From the FT commnets section: Leavers “We voted Brexit, now You Remainers need to implement it” Remainers “But it’s not possible!” Leavers “The People Have Spoken. Therefore it is possible. You just have to think positively.” Remainers “And do what exactly?” Leavers “Come up with a Plan that will leave us all better off outside the EU than in it” Remainers “But it’s not possible!” Leavers “Quit with the negative vibes. The People Have Spoken.” Remainers “But even you don’t know how!” Leavers “That’s your problem, we’ve done our bit and voted, we’re going to sit here and eat popcorn and watch as you do it.” Remainers “Shouldn’t you do it?” Leavers “It’s not up to us to work out the detail, it’s up to you experts.” Remainers “I thought you’d had enough of experts” Leavers “Remain experts.” Remainers “There are no Leave experts” Leavers “Then you’ll have to do it then. Oh, and by the way, no dragging your feet or complaining about it, because if you do a deal we don’t want, we’ll eat you alive.” Remainers “But you don’t know what you want!” Leavers “We want massive economic growth, no migration, free trade with the EU and every other country, on our terms, the revival of British industry, re-open the coal mines, tea and vicars on every village green, some bunting, and maybe restoration of the empire.” Remainers “You’re delusional.” Leavers “We’re a delusional majority. DEMOCRACY! So do the thing that isn’t possible, very quickly, and give all Leavers what they want, even though they don’t know what they want, and ignore the 16 million other voters who disagree. They’re tight trouser latte-sipping hipsters who whine all the time, who cares.” By Ishtar Ostaria Source: ft.com If it was written by a remainer it must be bollox according to the logic from Mr himself.

nickgusset

Shizzlehurst 23 Nov 16 7.29pm

Originally posted by Kermit8

From the FT commnets section:

Leavers “We voted Brexit, now You Remainers need to implement it”

By Ishtar Ostaria
Source: ft.com

If it was written by a remainer it must be bollox according to the logic from Mr himself.

Sportyteacher London 23 Nov 16 7.41pm
Originally posted by nickgusset If it was written by a remainer it must be bollox according to the logic from Mr himself. My eternal question is whatever was the Brexit set of policies for exit from EU and who is going to lead such argument given current configuration of Cabinet? I'm still looking forward to Andrea Leadsom and how she tackles Farming industry and potential loss of much valued EU grants...

Sportyteacher

London 23 Nov 16 7.41pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

If it was written by a remainer it must be bollox according to the logic from Mr himself.

My eternal question is whatever was the Brexit set of policies for exit from EU and who is going to lead such argument given current configuration of Cabinet? I'm still looking forward to Andrea Leadsom and how she tackles Farming industry and potential loss of much valued EU grants...

.TUX. 24 Nov 16 6.38am
Originally posted by nickgusset If it was written by a remainer it must be bollox according to the logic from Mr himself. It was written by someone who just writes bollox. Buy Litecoin.

.TUX.

24 Nov 16 6.38am

Originally posted by nickgusset

If it was written by a remainer it must be bollox according to the logic from Mr himself.

It was written by someone who just writes bollox.

Buy Litecoin.

matt_himself Matataland 24 Nov 16 7.27am
Isn't it odd that only a short while ago, the lefties formed 'No 2 EU', which evolved into TUSC, whose goals were to bring down the 'bosses union' that is the EU. Now they are falling over themselves, using CBI and BOE 'data', to prove that leaving the EU is wrong. I don't get it. Either you have political convictions or not. "That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

matt_himself

Matataland 24 Nov 16 7.27am

Isn't it odd that only a short while ago, the lefties formed 'No 2 EU', which evolved into TUSC, whose goals were to bring down the 'bosses union' that is the EU.

Now they are falling over themselves, using CBI and BOE 'data', to prove that leaving the EU is wrong.

I don't get it. Either you have political convictions or not.

"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

jamiemartin721 Reading 24 Nov 16 9.16am
Originally posted by matt_himself Isn't it odd that only a short while ago, the lefties formed 'No 2 EU', which evolved into TUSC, whose goals were to bring down the 'bosses union' that is the EU. Now they are falling over themselves, using CBI and BOE 'data', to prove that leaving the EU is wrong. I don't get it. Either you have political convictions or not. I know its almost as if the left isn't a single homogenous whole with a single manifesto, but a varied and diverse collection of different ideas, groups and parties. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]

jamiemartin721

Reading 24 Nov 16 9.16am

Originally posted by matt_himself

Isn't it odd that only a short while ago, the lefties formed 'No 2 EU', which evolved into TUSC, whose goals were to bring down the 'bosses union' that is the EU.

Now they are falling over themselves, using CBI and BOE 'data', to prove that leaving the EU is wrong.

I don't get it. Either you have political convictions or not.

I know its almost as if the left isn't a single homogenous whole with a single manifesto, but a varied and diverse collection of different ideas, groups and parties.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
[Link]

jamiemartin721 Reading 24 Nov 16 9.19am
Originally posted by .TUX. It was written by someone who just writes bollox. Granted funny bollox. But that's kind of how it should be, a discussion between people in society over what they want. Of course that would be easier if one side hadn't been promising the moon on a stick and the other side the end of the world as we know it. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]

jamiemartin721

Reading 24 Nov 16 9.19am

Originally posted by .TUX.

It was written by someone who just writes bollox.

Granted funny bollox. But that's kind of how it should be, a discussion between people in society over what they want.

Of course that would be easier if one side hadn't been promising the moon on a stick and the other side the end of the world as we know it.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
[Link]

legaleagle 24 Nov 16 9.24am
Originally posted by matt_himself Isn't it odd that only a short while ago, the lefties formed 'No 2 EU', which evolved into TUSC, whose goals were to bring down the 'bosses union' that is the EU. Now they are falling over themselves, using CBI and BOE 'data', to prove that leaving the EU is wrong. I don't get it. Either you have political convictions or not. Isn't it odd that some people,in falling over themselves to made another generic knee jerk pop against "the left", equate the 0.1% who voted TUSC with all those they generically describe as being on "the left"...presumably anyone leftwards of Nigel Farage.... Bit like equating a poster with being a fascist admirer because the poster voted the same way as a fringe extreme right wing group on an issue... In any event,some very long distance from the stunning hypocrisy of those who one minute claimed all they wanted was to reclaim sovereignty and the sovereignty of parliament, and the next minute label judges as "enemies of the people" because they enact precisely the principle in question. I don't get it.Either you aspire to some level of credible objective analysis or not Edited by legaleagle (24 Nov 2016 9.49am)

legaleagle

24 Nov 16 9.24am

Originally posted by matt_himself

Isn't it odd that only a short while ago, the lefties formed 'No 2 EU', which evolved into TUSC, whose goals were to bring down the 'bosses union' that is the EU.

Now they are falling over themselves, using CBI and BOE 'data', to prove that leaving the EU is wrong.

I don't get it. Either you have political convictions or not.

Isn't it odd that some people,in falling over themselves to made another generic knee jerk pop against "the left", equate the 0.1% who voted TUSC with all those they generically describe as being on "the left"...presumably anyone leftwards of Nigel Farage....

Bit like equating a poster with being a fascist admirer because the poster voted the same way as a fringe extreme right wing group on an issue...

In any event,some very long distance from the stunning hypocrisy of those who one minute claimed all they wanted was to reclaim sovereignty and the sovereignty of parliament, and the next minute label judges as "enemies of the people" because they enact precisely the principle in question.

I don't get it.Either you aspire to some level of credible objective analysis or not

Edited by legaleagle (24 Nov 2016 9.49am)

matt_himself Matataland 24 Nov 16 9.58am
Originally posted by legaleagle Isn't it odd that some people,in falling over themselves to made another generic knee jerk pop against "the left", equate the 0.1% who voted TUSC with all those they generically describe as being on "the left"...presumably anyone leftwards of Nigel Farage.... Bit like equating a poster with being a fascist admirer because the poster voted the same way as a fringe extreme right wing group on an issue... In any event,some very long distance from the stunning hypocrisy of those who one minute claimed all they wanted was to reclaim sovereignty and the sovereignty of parliament, and the next minute label judges as "enemies of the people" because they enact precisely the principle in question. I don't get it.Either you aspire to some level of credible objective analysis or not Edited by legaleagle (24 Nov 2016 9.49am) For someone who defiantly opposes 'prejudice', you don't half use a load of it to 'argue your point'. I thought the judges did the right thing. What disappointed me, but didn't surprise me, is the usage of any judicial, media or so-called moral tool available by Remainers to try and stop Brexit. The above is an observation on how the usage of data from organisations previously dismissed as being tools of the establishment, is gleefully taken at face value by the Remain camp. Still, not much at the moment shocks me about the stifling predicatibility of modern society. "That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

matt_himself

Matataland 24 Nov 16 9.58am

Originally posted by legaleagle

Bit like equating a poster with being a fascist admirer because the poster voted the same way as a fringe extreme right wing group on an issue...

I don't get it.Either you aspire to some level of credible objective analysis or not

Edited by legaleagle (24 Nov 2016 9.49am)

For someone who defiantly opposes 'prejudice', you don't half use a load of it to 'argue your point'.

I thought the judges did the right thing. What disappointed me, but didn't surprise me, is the usage of any judicial, media or so-called moral tool available by Remainers to try and stop Brexit. The above is an observation on how the usage of data from organisations previously dismissed as being tools of the establishment, is gleefully taken at face value by the Remain camp.

Still, not much at the moment shocks me about the stifling predicatibility of modern society.

"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

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.TUX. 24 Nov 16 10.29am
Originally posted by Penge Eagle ‘We are at war with Russia’: EU Parliament approves resolution to counter Russian media ‘propaganda’ [Link] EU Propaganda Machine v Russian Propaganda Machine. Place ya bets. Buy Litecoin.

.TUX.

24 Nov 16 10.29am

Originally posted by Penge Eagle

‘We are at war with Russia’: EU Parliament approves resolution to counter Russian media ‘propaganda’ [Link]

EU Propaganda Machine v Russian Propaganda Machine.
Place ya bets.

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Hoof Hearted 24 Nov 16 11.09am
No comment yet from anyone regarding the Autumn Statement? Surely one of you Bremoaners can come up with something to cast doom and gloom about Brexit!

Hoof Hearted 24 Nov 16 11.09am

No comment yet from anyone regarding the Autumn Statement?

Surely one of you Bremoaners can come up with something to cast doom and gloom about Brexit!

DanH SW2 24 Nov 16 11.33am
Originally posted by Hoof Hearted No comment yet from anyone regarding the Autumn Statement? Surely one of you Bremoaners can come up with something to cast doom and gloom about Brexit! The figures do that for themselves Hoofy. £62 billion the cost of Brexit so far wasn't it?

DanH

SW2 24 Nov 16 11.33am

Originally posted by Hoof Hearted

No comment yet from anyone regarding the Autumn Statement?

Surely one of you Bremoaners can come up with something to cast doom and gloom about Brexit!

The figures do that for themselves Hoofy. £62 billion the cost of Brexit so far wasn't it?

We are goin up! Coulsdon 24 Nov 16 11.38am
Originally posted by DanH The figures do that for themselves Hoofy. £62 billion the cost of Brexit so far wasn't it? Funny isn't it? That when there is good news like increased retail spending and the fastest growth forecasts in the G7, it's because we haven't actually left the EU yet. Yet when there is bad news it is ALL Brexit's fault. Makes very little sense. The fact is that our economy has not gone through any fundamental change yet, and won't for a while. We still have decent job growth, investor confidence and consumer confidence, problem is that this is being funded by startling levels of state debt that has been built up by both Labour and Conservatives. The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

We are goin up!

Coulsdon 24 Nov 16 11.38am

Originally posted by DanH

The figures do that for themselves Hoofy. £62 billion the cost of Brexit so far wasn't it?

Funny isn't it? That when there is good news like increased retail spending and the fastest growth forecasts in the G7, it's because we haven't actually left the EU yet.

Yet when there is bad news it is ALL Brexit's fault. Makes very little sense.

The fact is that our economy has not gone through any fundamental change yet, and won't for a while. We still have decent job growth, investor confidence and consumer confidence, problem is that this is being funded by startling levels of state debt that has been built up by both Labour and Conservatives.

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

Hoof Hearted 24 Nov 16 11.46am
Originally posted by DanH The figures do that for themselves Hoofy. £62 billion the cost of Brexit so far wasn't it? Yes if you believe the figures Dan. You know my thoughts on the dark arts of economists. Economic forecasting is as reliable as reading tarot cards, or getting an African JuJu man to cast chicken bones on the floor..... LOL Even the weathermen are doing a better job of forecasting now they've realised the Jet Stream and El Nino are the major influences on global weather. But the OPB etc are still putting in iffy data with wild parameters and coming up with all sorts of results that suits their political agenda (even though they insist they are independent). The BBC can't wait to hype it further and then it's out in the domain and all of a sudden everyone is an expert - interviews with young mums in vegan cafes telling us how they are worried etc. The most sensible thing said yesterday was when the Chancellor said it was his first Autumn Statement and his last. I am surprised Gusset hasn't been on to suggest Balls was right all along though.... I guess he must be getting briefed by his union comrades.

Hoof Hearted 24 Nov 16 11.46am

Originally posted by DanH

The figures do that for themselves Hoofy. £62 billion the cost of Brexit so far wasn't it?

Yes if you believe the figures Dan.

You know my thoughts on the dark arts of economists.

Economic forecasting is as reliable as reading tarot cards, or getting an African JuJu man to cast chicken bones on the floor..... LOL

Even the weathermen are doing a better job of forecasting now they've realised the Jet Stream and El Nino are the major influences on global weather.

But the OPB etc are still putting in iffy data with wild parameters and coming up with all sorts of results that suits their political agenda (even though they insist they are independent). The BBC can't wait to hype it further and then it's out in the domain and all of a sudden everyone is an expert - interviews with young mums in vegan cafes telling us how they are worried etc.

The most sensible thing said yesterday was when the Chancellor said it was his first Autumn Statement and his last.

I am surprised Gusset hasn't been on to suggest Balls was right all along though.... I guess he must be getting briefed by his union comrades.

nickgusset Shizzlehurst 24 Nov 16 12.02pm
Originally posted by Hoof Hearted Yes if you believe the figures Dan. You know my thoughts on the dark arts of economists. Economic forecasting is as reliable as reading tarot cards, or getting an African JuJu man to cast chicken bones on the floor..... LOL Even the weathermen are doing a better job of forecasting now they've realised the Jet Stream and El Nino are the major influences on global weather. But the OPB etc are still putting in iffy data with wild parameters and coming up with all sorts of results that suits their political agenda (even though they insist they are independent). The BBC can't wait to hype it further and then it's out in the domain and all of a sudden everyone is an expert - interviews with young mums in vegan cafes telling us how they are worried etc. The most sensible thing said yesterday was when the Chancellor said it was his first Autumn Statement and his last. I am surprised Gusset hasn't been on to suggest Balls was right all along though.... I guess he must be getting briefed by his union comrades. Debt to gdp of 90+% . Thanks austerity. You've really worked. Seems that the idea of state investment as stimulus isn't a daft lefty idea anymore. Miliband was shot down for suggesting such a thing yet Hammond is being applauded. Or perhaps I was joking (like Hoof did about hitting children to raise a response) in order to worm out of something I've said that's iffy.

nickgusset

Shizzlehurst 24 Nov 16 12.02pm

Originally posted by Hoof Hearted

Yes if you believe the figures Dan.

You know my thoughts on the dark arts of economists.

Economic forecasting is as reliable as reading tarot cards, or getting an African JuJu man to cast chicken bones on the floor..... LOL

Even the weathermen are doing a better job of forecasting now they've realised the Jet Stream and El Nino are the major influences on global weather.

The most sensible thing said yesterday was when the Chancellor said it was his first Autumn Statement and his last.

I am surprised Gusset hasn't been on to suggest Balls was right all along though.... I guess he must be getting briefed by his union comrades.

Debt to gdp of 90+% . Thanks austerity. You've really worked. Seems that the idea of state investment as stimulus isn't a daft lefty idea anymore. Miliband was shot down for suggesting such a thing yet Hammond is being applauded.

Or perhaps I was joking (like Hoof did about hitting children to raise a response) in order to worm out of something I've said that's iffy.

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