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 NEILLO  Shoreham-by-Sea 08 Apr 21 3.07pm |
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Originally posted by Vaibow
Roy is not the future.... he never really was... he was a stop gap manager to hold the line and the budget... it's that simple. Does Howe deserve a crack at the prep? Personally he should be in a champ club proving his worth, he failed at the prem in all honesty. I feel a champ level manager with potential should be considered for us. I also think we should totally restructure ourselves and Parish should come out and say it. For instance, a yo yo club doesn't break the bank to get promoted from the champ, they don't break the bank to stay in the league either. They get in the prem, have a couple of years, collecting the money, go down, have another go, you get an exciting season then back in the big league. I feel for us, we should look at the league as split in two. Top ten, bottom ten. Top ten you got your united, cities, Chelseas etc they all spend big, as the reward is bigger, the demand is bigger. We should not be held hostage to this league and be terrified of going down... relegation should not be the end of the world, that just shows piss poor club management. do I want us to be a yoyo club, no... do I want us spending big bucks... nope. Do I want some excitement, 100%. Roy has been a safe pair of hands as the club has been run with a short term view that only now are we starting to see change. I disagree that Howe outrightly failed, he patently didn't given Bournemouth's previous placings. My question is around whether he can cut it with a bigger club. I'm confused ( not difficult ! ) by your yo-yo club comments. On one hand you are extolling the financial virtues of the situation but then on the other saying you don't want Palace to be that club. And although Norwich and Watford look like making an instant return, have a look at bigger clubs than those that failed to do so and have huge debt into the bargain. I think in the wages ' league table ' we will start to descend as we release the higher earners - that started with Meyer. While I understand the sentiments behind your ' wish list ', it's not as easy to achieve as you make it sound - far from it.
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Uphill  Bedford 08 Apr 21 3.19pm |
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I am struggling to understand what these ongoing posts have to do with the subject matter
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ASCPFC  Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 08 Apr 21 3.20pm |
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Originally posted by TheBigToePunt
I'm sure Norwich fans are enjoying their football right now, just like I'm sure they enjoyed it when they got promoted two years ago. On the other hand, I doubt they got much joy from getting their pants pulled down every single week last season, or that they would/will enjoy it again next season. Glad you've enjoyed this season so much and that your crystal ball makes you correct. I expect them to be better than us next season, and if they're not, they won’t break the bank either. It's us with the mad wages for permanently injured players, not them. It's us thinking it's great if we luck out a nil nil draw. Our aspirations are zero. Who knows, maybe there's a plan? I can guarantee Norwich have one.
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| Palace Old Geezer Midhurst 08 Apr 21 3.30pm |
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Originally posted by Uphill
I am struggling to understand what these ongoing posts have to do with the subject matter No worries uphill, it's all downhill from here. I've remarked on more than one occasion that these threads often end up miles away from their original target. 'Roy In' ended up 'Roy Out' and 'Roy Out' ended up 'Roy In'. Nothing new, but I guess that's how all debates go. One thing leads to another.
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| Mapletree Croydon 08 Apr 21 3.31pm |
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
Glad you've enjoyed this season so much and that your crystal ball makes you correct. I expect them to be better than us next season, and if they're not, they won’t break the bank either. It's us with the mad wages for permanently injured players, not them. It's us thinking it's great if we luck out a nil nil draw. Our aspirations are zero. Who knows, maybe there's a plan? I can guarantee Norwich have one. For goodness sake. It doesn't need Einstein to see the plan does it. We are where exactly in the U18 league? I love it when a plan comes together
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| Davepalace707 Northumberland 08 Apr 21 3.56pm |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
For goodness sake. It doesn't need Einstein to see the plan does it. We are where exactly in the U18 league? I love it when a plan comes together Excellent. I can look forward to a cup run in what, 4 years time?
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| Mwncisee Middlesbrough 08 Apr 21 4.29pm |
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Originally posted by Vaibow
Roy is not the future.... he never really was... he was a stop gap manager to hold the line and the budget... it's that simple. Does Howe deserve a crack at the prep? Personally he should be in a champ club proving his worth, he failed at the prem in all honesty. I feel a champ level manager with potential should be considered for us. I also think we should totally restructure ourselves and Parish should come out and say it. For instance, a yo yo club doesn't break the bank to get promoted from the champ, they don't break the bank to stay in the league either. They get in the prem, have a couple of years, collecting the money, go down, have another go, you get an exciting season then back in the big league. I feel for us, we should look at the league as split in two. Top ten, bottom ten. Top ten you got your united, cities, Chelseas etc they all spend big, as the reward is bigger, the demand is bigger. We should not be held hostage to this league and be terrified of going down... relegation should not be the end of the world, that just shows piss poor club management. do I want us to be a yoyo club, no... do I want us spending big bucks... nope. Do I want some excitement, 100%. Over simplistic view which only works when you make the assumption that once relegated you WILL get promoted again the next season. The Championship is a very hard fought league. Yes Norwich may yoyo this season but look at all the clubs that have got relegated and not been able to make it back immediately. Blackburn won the Prem, now look at them. Swindon, Blackpool, Wigan, Bolton and Bradford were all prem teams. My hometown team of Middlesbrough went down, couldn't get straight back up and haemorrhaged losing all there best players and all the good work that was done over years unravels back to square one. Most secure way to ensure your financial future is to do everything you can to stay in the top flight.....and that is exactly what we have done. Edited by Mwncisee (08 Apr 2021 4.29pm)
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| ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 08 Apr 21 4.44pm |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
For goodness sake. It doesn't need Einstein to see the plan does it. We are where exactly in the U18 league? I love it when a plan comes together I don't know as when I advocate for youth, I get told in no uncertain terms that none are good enough, with the inference that none will ever make it.
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| Mapletree Croydon 08 Apr 21 10.21pm |
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
I don't know as when I advocate for youth, I get told in no uncertain terms that none are good enough, with the inference that none will ever make it. Aren’t you confusing the U23s with the U18s?
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| JRW2 Dulwich 09 Apr 21 2.02pm |
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| ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 09 Apr 21 2.11pm |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
Aren’t you confusing the U23s with the U18s? There are several posters who have stated none will ever make it. There are even some in this thread. I'm not Richard Shaw.
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| ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 09 Apr 21 2.20pm |
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Originally posted by ex hibitionist
tbh if we got Dyche I think we'd be pleasantly surprised the way we were with Pulis and Allardyce - pragmatism does not always mean having to be direct. Dyche would use our flair players effectively - you see the same solid 4-4-2 that we have with Roy, but Dyche is a bright bloke who will no doubt find tactics to suit his players rather than vice-versa. I agree, plus he won't listen to any cry baby bull from the players. He's the best choice for us in my opinion. He also knows how to get hard work out of players and buy hard working, determined players. Something we often lack.
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eagleman13  On The Road To Hell & Alicante 09 Apr 21 2.33pm |
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
I agree, plus he won't listen to any cry baby bull from the players. He's the best choice for us in my opinion. He also knows how to get hard work out of players and buy hard working, determined players. Something we often lack. IF, we end up with Dyche, i would like for him to prise Ben Mee away from Burnley so he could partner Cahill in central defence, just my opinion.
This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise. |
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| EddieMac 09 Apr 21 4.55pm |
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Originally posted by eagleman13
IF, we end up with Dyche, i would like for him to prise Ben Mee away from Burnley so he could partner Cahill in central defence, just my opinion. Where have you got the notion that we are getting Dyche ? Edited by EddieMac (09 Apr 2021 4.55pm)
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| ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 09 Apr 21 4.59pm |
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Originally posted by EddieMac
Where have you got the notion that we are getting Dyche ? Edited by EddieMac (09 Apr 2021 4.55pm) There is a big IF
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| eagleman13 On The Road To Hell & Alicante 09 Apr 21 5.02pm |
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
There is a big IF thank you AS, you beat me to it.
This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise. |
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| ex hibitionist Hastings 09 Apr 21 5.15pm |
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Originally posted by EddieMac
Where have you got the notion that we are getting Dyche ? Edited by EddieMac (09 Apr 2021 4.55pm) he's not rocking the boat, I think it was The Sun, and I think Parish would take either Howe or Dyche.
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| croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 09 Apr 21 5.19pm |
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Originally posted by ex hibitionist
he's not rocking the boat, I think it was The Sun, and I think Parish would take either Howe or Dyche. Who would you rather hibs? What about Lampard?
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