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ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 05 Dec 22 3.27pm

The bottom line is what is our bottom line? Are we skint, or do we have transfer funds? I'm thinking that we need maybe three or four players by the beginning of next season. At today's prices that's going to be over 50 mil. If we stand still, it's only a matter of when, rather than if, we will go down. 50 mil is frankly a conservative estimate. The only caveat is if one of the youngsters is good enough. They're not getting a look in currently, so looks doubtful.

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 05 Dec 22 4.11pm

This time period is going to be fascinating, what happens with Zaha, who we get in.....Our team seems on the cusp of change from middle rung and it's either uptown or downtown....We have talented young players who are gaining experience and it's interesting to see how Textor will influence that.


Edited by Stirlingsays (05 Dec 2022 4.12pm)

 

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ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 05 Dec 22 4.38pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

This time period is going to be fascinating, what happens with Zaha, who we get in.....Our team seems on the cusp of change from middle rung and it's either uptown or downtown....We have talented young players who are gaining experience and it's interesting to see how Textor will influence that.


Edited by Stirlingsays (05 Dec 2022 4.12pm)

I get frankly frustrated by all the ownership shenanigans and the thought of Zaha going to Villa on a free doesn't fill me with glee.

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 05 Dec 22 4.46pm

Originally posted by ASCPFC

I get frankly frustrated by all the ownership shenanigans and the thought of Zaha going to Villa on a free doesn't fill me with glee.

I'd be highly surprised if he left for a club that he didn't consider to be bigger. Villa aren't really that.

 

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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 18 Dec 22 9.04am

Summary from the Sun about Textor. It sums up my concerns no good will come of this.

[Link]

 

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Dubai Eagle Flag 18 Dec 22 9.18am

There isn't really anything in the article that we didn't already know - I suppose what we really want to know is where in the Textor (Super group) pecking order are we sitting, are we top or behind Lyon ?

followed by: How likely is it that throwing a few Euros at Lyon will see them with a Champions League place ? ( & how much more attractive does that make them ?)

One good point in our favour is that we have Parish who seems to be laser focused on making sure Palace get their fair share of the cake ( although to be fair its got to be recognised that with the amount of money that could require to be involved its not actually going to be his cake)

 
Badger11 Flag Beckenham 18 Dec 22 9.40am

Originally posted by Dubai Eagle

There isn't really anything in the article that we didn't already know - I suppose what we really want to know is where in the Textor (Super group) pecking order are we sitting, are we top or behind Lyon ?

followed by: How likely is it that throwing a few Euros at Lyon will see them with a Champions League place ? ( & how much more attractive does that make them ?)

One good point in our favour is that we have Parish who seems to be laser focused on making sure Palace get their fair share of the cake ( although to be fair its got to be recognised that with the amount of money that could require to be involved its not actually going to be his cake)

Correct this is a summary rather then breaking news. However some Palace fans think Textor is good for the club whereas I am suspicious that his goals are not necessarily our goals.

As a fan group we need to watch this closely.

There is click bait that we are after an American striker it maybe rubbish, it maybe he is a discovery, or it even maybe that Textor is pulling the strings with his contacts.

Charlton fans trumpeted their Belgian owner and his network of clubs until they discovered that the other clubs appeared to benefit more than they did.

You make a good point about Champions League. To qualify from the PL you would need to better probably 6 of the richest clubs in the world. Whereas you get gain entry to the CL from other countries far cheaper so where would you put your money?

FYI DE I am booked to Uzbekistan in April thanks for the assist.

Edited by Badger11 (18 Dec 2022 9.41am)

 

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Lanzo-Ad Flag Lanzarote 18 Dec 22 10.18am

I think we would be the top of the four, OLs squad is worth less than us, and the money generated in the Premiership per club dwarfs the French league, it seems a good idea on paper, four teams who can swap players between clubs at reduced fees, lets see if it works in real life.

 

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Croydon-Trucker Flag 18 Dec 22 11.04am

I just found this seem like he is going to make funds available .
[Link]

 
Badger11 Flag Beckenham 18 Dec 22 12.10pm

Originally posted by Croydon-Trucker

I just found this seem like he is going to make funds available .
[Link]

I hope this is correct we shall see in the January window. Money talks bs walks.

 

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Lanzo-Ad Flag Lanzarote 18 Dec 22 12.15pm

Originally posted by Croydon-Trucker

I just found this seem like he is going to make funds available .
[Link]

Sounds very encouraging, RB, CF, CM, Please.

 

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Midlands Eagle Flag 18 Dec 22 12.50pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays


I'd be highly surprised if he left for a club that he didn't consider to be bigger. Villa aren't really that.

They've got a bigger ground though. Does that count?


 
ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 18 Dec 22 1.00pm

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

They've got a bigger ground though. Does that count?


They've never won anything either.

 

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becky Flag over the moon 18 Dec 22 5.08pm

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

They've got a bigger ground though. Does that count?


Why are men so obsessed with the size of everything?

 

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Croydon-Trucker Flag 18 Dec 22 7.22pm

Originally posted by becky

Why are men so obsessed with the size of everything?

Admit it Becky . Size matters

 
Stirlingsays Flag 18 Dec 22 7.30pm

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

They've got a bigger ground though. Does that count?

They do don't they....just looked it up.

Surprising really, we won't even get close after redevelopment.

As for Zaha, I'd be amazed if he went to a club that wasn't in the hunt for honours.....then again, maybe it'll come down to sheer size of the wages.

 

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dreamwaverider Flag London 19 Dec 22 8.49am

In recent years football is attracting big money and premier club values are going through the roof.
I am very wary of the whole thing. When you see someone like Bill Foley buying in it makes me very nervous.
The American model is one of growing value which is why they are creating groups of clubs. I am far from convinced. None of them have our sport in their blood.
With the Middle Eastern entry into the game we are now going to different much higher levels as the World Cup has shown. And of course PSG Man City and recently Newcastle.
We have fallen into American hands which is very different and less appealing than Middle Eastern unless you don’t like The Middle Eastern culture ruling ways etc.
unfortunately our investors a bit like Bill Foley are hard nosed money men lacking any emotion for their companies.
Only time will tell.

 
Badger11 Flag Beckenham 19 Dec 22 8.59am

Originally posted by dreamwaverider

In recent years football is attracting big money and premier club values are going through the roof.
I am very wary of the whole thing. When you see someone like Bill Foley buying in it makes me very nervous.
The American model is one of growing value which is why they are creating groups of clubs. I am far from convinced. None of them have our sport in their blood.
With the Middle Eastern entry into the game we are now going to different much higher levels as the World Cup has shown. And of course PSG Man City and recently Newcastle.
We have fallen into American hands which is very different and less appealing than Middle Eastern unless you don’t like The Middle Eastern culture ruling ways etc.
unfortunately our investors a bit like Bill Foley are hard nosed money men lacking any emotion for their companies.
Only time will tell.

What concerns me about these American consortiums is they will become a spiders web. Some of these groups may have unofficial links to each other through friends or relatives. So Palace end up buying or selling a player from a club with no links to Textor on paper yet it's all Smoke and Mirrors.

The other thing is that the Americans now own 11? PL clubs how long before they and the Arabs can out vote everybody else e.g. no relegation.

 

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Painter Flag Croydon 19 Dec 22 10.40am

Originally posted by dreamwaverider

In recent years football is attracting big money and premier club values are going through the roof.
I am very wary of the whole thing. When you see someone like Bill Foley buying in it makes me very nervous.
The American model is one of growing value which is why they are creating groups of clubs. I am far from convinced. None of them have our sport in their blood.
With the Middle Eastern entry into the game we are now going to different much higher levels as the World Cup has shown. And of course PSG Man City and recently Newcastle.
We have fallen into American hands which is very different and less appealing than Middle Eastern unless you don’t like The Middle Eastern culture ruling ways etc.
unfortunately our investors a bit like Bill Foley are hard nosed money men lacking any emotion for their companies.
Only time will tell.

We could have rejected the American money and now be playing in the Championship or League One. I doubt CPFC2010 could of achieved what they did, when they took over in todays landscape.

 
ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 19 Dec 22 10.46am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

They do don't they....just looked it up.

Surprising really, we won't even get close after redevelopment.

As for Zaha, I'd be amazed if he went to a club that wasn't in the hunt for honours.....then again, maybe it'll come down to sheer size of the wages.

They're a pretty big club. The view at Villa Park is excellent - steep and close to the pitch. From my memory a very big team in Birmingham and the West Midlands with shirts everywhere. I lived in the Midlands for years and had loads of Villa mates. I would always go to all of Palace's Midlands away games - which could be hairy enough in the 80s and even 90s quite frankly. Birmingham City always the worst. I think there was a year Villa won the title using only 12 players or something like that. Pretty amazing really.

 

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