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sydtheeagle Flag England 02 Feb 23 1.02pm

Originally posted by JRW2

Probably a silly question, but what is the source of the suggested £40m?

Everton (widely reported) bid £40-£45 million on deadline day and Chelsea accepted it. But Conor had no interest in going to Everton. Then, the Fernandez deal became tied up in details and didn't happen until the last minute, so sending Conor out on loan elsewhere, which might have happened had Fernandez been resolved earlier in the day, was off the table.

But deadline day did serve to fix two things. 1. Conor's price. The mark has been set at £40-£45 million. 2. Chelsea is - unless something changes dramatically between now and June - willing to sell. So come the summer window opening, if nothing has changed, you'd expect a Conor deal (to Palace or anyone else) to happen very quickly because all the barriers have now been removed. Price known. Chelsea's willingness to sell established (assuming nothing changes).

Edited by sydtheeagle (02 Feb 2023 1.06pm)

 


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PatrickA Flag London 02 Feb 23 1.09pm

Unless we have a clear indication from Gallagher that he would be happy to join us together with the financial clout to complete what is likely to be an expensive move, there seems little point continuing with this saga.
Our ideal window may have included Gallagher, AWB and Sarr.
Arsenal's included Mudryk and Caceido, but they had to settle on Trossard and Jorghinho and these are good options too.
Hopefully the two we have brought in can make a positive impact and make fans view Gallagher as a trip down memory lane as opposed to the only panacea for our midfield failings.

 

Dubai Eagle Flag 02 Feb 23 1.26pm

It would be nice to know how reliable the newspaper articles were in terms of what the actual Everton bid was & how it was structured

a) Actual Amount
b) Payment plan / milestones
c) What were the add ons & how much were they worth ?


Originally posted by sydtheeagle

Everton (widely reported) bid £40-£45 million on deadline day and Chelsea accepted it. But Conor had no interest in going to Everton. Then, the Fernandez deal became tied up in details and didn't happen until the last minute, so sending Conor out on loan elsewhere, which might have happened had Fernandez been resolved earlier in the day, was off the table.

But deadline day did serve to fix two things. 1. Conor's price. The mark has been set at £40-£45 million. 2. Chelsea is - unless something changes dramatically between now and June - willing to sell. So come the summer window opening, if nothing has changed, you'd expect a Conor deal (to Palace or anyone else) to happen very quickly because all the barriers have now been removed. Price known. Chelsea's willingness to sell established (assuming nothing changes).

Edited by sydtheeagle (02 Feb 2023 1.06pm)

 

Uphill Flag Bedford 02 Feb 23 2.02pm

There is much discussion here about how much he would cost in the summer window but have we any idea what wages he would want?

£40million plus £100K a week wages and him wanting European football would rule him out on all 3 counts.

Far better to forget him and concentrate on bargains to be had in Europe, Africa and South America.

Brighton has shown how to profit this way.

 

thechaddyboy Flag Peterborough 02 Feb 23 2.12pm

Wouldn't be surprised to hear an agreement has already been made to sign him in the summer, Chelsea supposedly ruled out a loan & Conor was reported to rule out Everton & claim to prefer a Palace move. If we're unable to justify that amount in January, preferring to buy one / loan one we may be biding our time to splash out in a few months.

 


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dreamwaverider Flag London 02 Feb 23 2.24pm

Originally posted by Uphill

There is much discussion here about how much he would cost in the summer window but have we any idea what wages he would want?

£40million plus £100K a week wages and him wanting European football would rule him out on all 3 counts.

Far better to forget him and concentrate on bargains to be had in Europe, Africa and South America.

Brighton has shown how to profit this way.

 

dreamwaverider Flag London 02 Feb 23 2.25pm

Brighton have got Tony Bloom which is a bit like comparing Ayew with Messi.

 

MrRobbo Flag Chaldon 02 Feb 23 2.26pm

Originally posted by Uphill

There is much discussion here about how much he would cost in the summer window but have we any idea what wages he would want?

£40million plus £100K a week wages and him wanting European football would rule him out on all 3 counts.

Far better to forget him and concentrate on bargains to be had in Europe, Africa and South America.

Brighton has shown how to profit this way.

As much as I love him, and agree with Syd's mitigations, I'm with you here.

I'd be more than happy sticking to a model that is designed to buy players for less than we sell them at. Easier said than done eh.

I love Connor, but when you are buying at £400m, that's harder to do. I'm not sure he has the technical talent to be an £80m player in 5 years....

For comparison, Brighton paid around £40m for White, Bissouma and Cucurella, and sold for £140m.

 

Teddy Eagle Flag 02 Feb 23 2.30pm


Comments on Chelsea site are they like him but don't think his skill set matches Chelsea's needs and that if he's not good enough for them why should he be good enough for other top 6/7 clubs?

 

The Dolphin Flag 02 Feb 23 2.50pm

He will likely not play much now for the rest of the season.
Can Chelsea send him abroad on loan to get playing time?
Chelsea do like to muck around with young players lives - they really are a shocking club and worse now under the new guys.

 

ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 02 Feb 23 2.51pm

Originally posted by dreamwaverider

Brighton have got Tony Bloom which is a bit like comparing Ayew with Messi.

I know - Ayew miles better.

 


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Croydon-Trucker Flag 02 Feb 23 3.17pm

Originally posted by PJEagle

Yes. The big IF though if he's available for bids to be made and IF we can afford to make an offer? There's a lot of other key players who will be out of contract, and we will need 2RBs a striker and a midfielder. That might amount to more than £100m...

We could always do a Chelsea on it and sign him on a 8 year deal and spread the payments over the 8 years .

 

Croydon-Trucker Flag 02 Feb 23 3.22pm

Originally posted by Croydon-Trucker

We could always do a Chelsea on it and sign him on a 8 year deal and spread the payments over the 8 years .

its just 5 mill a year ( had to get the calculator )

 

Lanzo-Ad Flag Lanzarote 02 Feb 23 4.16pm

Originally posted by MrRobbo

As much as I love him, and agree with Syd's mitigations, I'm with you here.

I'd be more than happy sticking to a model that is designed to buy players for less than we sell them at. Easier said than done eh.

I love Connor, but when you are buying at £400m, that's harder to do. I'm not sure he has the technical talent to be an £80m player in 5 years....

For comparison, Brighton paid around £40m for White, Bissouma and Cucurella, and sold for £140m.

i agree, who knows Lokonga might be decent and cheaper

 


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PJEagle Flag London 02 Feb 23 6.54pm

Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad

i agree, who knows Lokonga might be decent and cheaper

But he's only a six month loan. We do need Gallagher . The chemistry is right. Would love to see him sign on a permanent in the summer

 

EddieMac Flag 02 Feb 23 8.06pm

I really don't think Gallagher would want to come to us full time. He has got to be thinking about trophies and European football, especially after being in England squad for WC.

 

rollercoaster Flag Cornwall 02 Feb 23 8.24pm

Two things to say about this:

Firstly, as I understand it, Chelsea have 29 players on their books and only 25 can be in the prem squad and the champions league squad. Four players will get no game time at all.

Secondly, unrelated, it is important to remember (and no one seems to get this) that you have to actually sell a player to make a profit. We've only sold AWB in recent years. The young players we have and are developing can walk away at the end of their contracts and we get nothing whilst they get a lovely signing on fee. We also don't appear to do a good job (well any job) at extending players contracts and continually leave things late, too late.

So the model everyone is going on about, that works for the Brightons and Brentfords of the world is not a guaranteed money spinner for us, even if we manage to find those elusive young prospects.

 

HeathMan Flag Purley 02 Feb 23 11.27pm

All about management - giving them hope of going further with CPFC than anyone else.

 

MrRobbo Flag Chaldon 03 Feb 23 9.04am

Originally posted by rollercoaster

Two things to say about this:

Firstly, as I understand it, Chelsea have 29 players on their books and only 25 can be in the prem squad and the champions league squad. Four players will get no game time at all.

Secondly, unrelated, it is important to remember (and no one seems to get this) that you have to actually sell a player to make a profit. We've only sold AWB in recent years. The young players we have and are developing can walk away at the end of their contracts and we get nothing whilst they get a lovely signing on fee. We also don't appear to do a good job (well any job) at extending players contracts and continually leave things late, too late.

So the model everyone is going on about, that works for the Brightons and Brentfords of the world is not a guaranteed money spinner for us, even if we manage to find those elusive young prospects.

Jsut out of interest, who are you referring to?

 

doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 03 Feb 23 10.32am

Originally posted by Croydon-Trucker

We could always do a Chelsea on it and sign him on a 8 year deal and spread the payments over the 8 years .


That's not going to be an option from this coming Summer's window as UEFA have said they will close the loophole Chelsea have been using and limit the payment spread to a maximum of 5 years - you can still have 8 year contracts but you will only be able to spread the cost over a maximum of 5.

IMO this is a good thing since although the sums Chelsea paid for players were eye-wateringly inflated, come the summer, it won't be so easy for clubs to pay those inflated prices with the 5 year amortisation limit.

 

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