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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 13 Jul 22 9.57am

Originally posted by Nicholas91

I need not apologise for the circumstances which led to your fragile state of mind Wisbech nor the delusions the continue to torment it, I think it safe to say I played no role in that.

I fear you have played the role of antagonist too often and too long on here, for whatever lack of attention you have failed to acquire elsewhere, that you are no longer capable of reasonable debate or discussion and therefore the ultimate exercise in futility.

Perhaps you can find an empty room somewhere to accuse the walls of not being liberal enough for you and therefore to blame for all that is wrong with the world. Their silence may even be used as evidence for them being far right extremists, and perhaps the carpet might hail you as the ultimate human being.

When you are ready to apologise for your nonsensical hysterics, typically characteristic of a far younger woman than yourself, I'll be happy to forgive you.

What on earth are you going on about now? There's nothing the least bit "fragile" with my mind! If you bothered to actually check the original quote, you ought to be able to understand your error. You clearly either haven't done that, or cannot comprehend simple English. I have no idea which it is.

This isn't either a "debate" or "hysterics"! It's a very straightforward issue of you accusing me of something which demonstrably isn't true. If I ever make that kind of mistake, I apologise.

It seems you just double down on the baseless accusations.

Which is another tactic routinely used by Trump. He is at it now over the Congressional hearings.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 13 Jul 22 10.01am

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

Some of the back-and-forth on here has some striking similarities to the Capital Hill Riots Inquiry itself

They do.

Calm, accurate analysis on one side.

Baseless assertions, and emotional rhetoric on the other.

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 13 Jul 22 10.09am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

What on earth are you going on about now? There's nothing the least bit "fragile" with my mind! If you bothered to actually check the original quote, you ought to be able to understand your error. You clearly either haven't done that, or cannot comprehend simple English. I have no idea which it is.

This isn't either a "debate" or "hysterics"! It's a very straightforward issue of you accusing me of something which demonstrably isn't true. If I ever make that kind of mistake, I apologise.

It seems you just double down on the baseless accusations.

Which is another tactic routinely used by Trump. He is at it now over the Congressional hearings.

If people start reading this thread from where you appear on it they will see the countless claims and predictions you made which didn't pan out for you. Your obsessional Trump derangement makes the Democrats look like sign ups to Trump's fan club. Your predictions on his downfall were about as accurate as Mystic Meg's lottery selections.

If you had to apologise for every statement you've made which wasn't true your teeth would probably fall out from the overuse besides we all know that Gemma Collins has more chance of being elected the next pope than there is of you apologising for being wrong.

Edited by Stirlingsays (13 Jul 2022 10.18am)

 


'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays Flag 13 Jul 22 10.11am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

They do.

Calm, accurate analysis on one side.

Baseless assertions, and emotional rhetoric on the other.

Finally you make a self assessment that carries some weight.

 


'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 13 Jul 22 11.08am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

If people start reading this thread from where you appear on it they will see the countless claims and predictions you made which didn't pan out for you. Your obsessional Trump derangement makes the Democrats look like sign ups to Trump's fan club. Your predictions on his downfall were about as accurate as Mystic Meg's lottery selections.

If you had to apologise for every statement you've made which wasn't true your teeth would probably fall out from the overuse besides we all know that Gemma Collins has more chance of being elected the next pope than there is of you apologising for being wrong.

Edited by Stirlingsays (13 Jul 2022 10.18am)

Here we have another chiming in who isn't bothering to actually read what was said, but just wants to make his usual personal insults.

My contributions to this thread start at 2.51 on 11th July. Anything prior to that has no connection at all.

My opinion on Trump has never wavered. I believe he was the worst POTUS in history and responsible for the biggest ever attempt at undermining their democracy. My opinion is now slowly but surely being shown to be true by the Congressional hearings. No "derangement" involved. Whether what is being revealed goes on to be used by the Justice Department to indict him remains to be seen. My hope is it will, but as I have frequently said, be patient. These things take time.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 13 Jul 22 11.10am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Finally you make a self assessment that carries some weight.

What I have said is neither baseless nor emotional. It's true and written without any emotion whatsoever.

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 13 Jul 22 11.40am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

What I have said is neither baseless nor emotional. It's true and written without any emotion whatsoever.

You left the door open to that one, you need a coffee me thinks.

Perhaps your mind is on the cruise....I wouldn't blame you for that.

 


'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays Flag 13 Jul 22 11.45am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Here we have another chiming in who isn't bothering to actually read what was said, but just wants to make his usual personal insults.

My contributions to this thread start at 2.51 on 11th July. Anything prior to that has no connection at all.

My opinion on Trump has never wavered. I believe he was the worst POTUS in history and responsible for the biggest ever attempt at undermining their democracy. My opinion is now slowly but surely being shown to be true by the Congressional hearings. No "derangement" involved. Whether what is being revealed goes on to be used by the Justice Department to indict him remains to be seen. My hope is it will, but as I have frequently said, be patient. These things take time.

Well, I think we all could agree with the highlighted text.

Shame about the rest of it....besides what are you talking about 'personal insults'? All that's pretty tame....no wonder comedy is dead on the left.

I just can't wait for the ranting in 2024....If the Hol went to subscription it would be worth paying it just for the impression of human rabies you'd give over a Trump presidency.

Edited by Stirlingsays (13 Jul 2022 11.58am)

 


'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

palace99 Flag New Mills 13 Jul 22 1.20pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Well, I think we all could agree with the highlighted text.

Shame about the rest of it....besides what are you talking about 'personal insults'? All that's pretty tame....no wonder comedy is dead on the left.

I just can't wait for the ranting in 2024....If the Hol went to subscription it would be worth paying it just for the impression of human rabies you'd give over a Trump presidency.

Edited by Stirlingsays (13 Jul 2022 11.58am)

What a strange comment. Almost all comedians are left wing and have been for years. There are few right wing ones and of those, most aren't very good.

I can only think of Geoff Norcott who has been on loads of panel shows etc as he's right wing - yet is pretty average.

 

Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 13 Jul 22 2.04pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

You left the door open to that one, you need a coffee me thinks.

Perhaps your mind is on the cruise....I wouldn't blame you for that.

It is, along with the climax of the bowling season tomorrow and Friday.

That and the fact that my wife is in daily contact with people infected with Covid which could threaten our holiday, and the trip she will make 4 days after we return, should she test positive herself.

Getting amused by idiotic comments by people incapable of reading is just a brief light relief.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 13 Jul 22 2.28pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Well, I think we all could agree with the highlighted text.

Shame about the rest of it....besides what are you talking about 'personal insults'? All that's pretty tame....no wonder comedy is dead on the left.

I just can't wait for the ranting in 2024....If the Hol went to subscription it would be worth paying it just for the impression of human rabies you'd give over a Trump presidency.

Edited by Stirlingsays (13 Jul 2022 11.58am)

The second paragraph has already been succinctly answered. That you don't recognise the personal and insulting nature of many of your comments ought, I believe, give you pause for some reflection.

Hopefully, if things progress as I would like, Trump won't stand in 2024 because he will be so discredited that the GOP won't risk him. I have to wonder though whether he would like to be indicted and jailed, as it plays into his narrative of being the victim of a "witch-hunt". He is a devious devil. As the alternatives all look, at the moment, to have to imitate Trump to stand a chance of nomination, it remains unknown which of them would prove a better choice. Right now, they all look unfit. Who the Dems pick matters as well. The US electorate appears to have even shorter memories than we do here, as well as apportioning blame on politicians for events beyond their control. It will certainly be interesting and very, very important. Whether I "rant" depends on many factors, mostly as yet unknown.

 


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Spiderman Flag Horsham 13 Jul 22 2.32pm

Originally posted by palace99

What a strange comment. Almost all comedians are left wing and have been for years. There are few right wing ones and of those, most aren't very good.

I can only think of Geoff Norcott who has been on loads of panel shows etc as he's right wing - yet is pretty average.

Possibly because many right wing comedians have been cancelled

Edited by Spiderman (13 Jul 2022 2.32pm)

 

Stirlingsays Flag 13 Jul 22 2.51pm

Originally posted by palace99

What a strange comment. Almost all comedians are left wing and have been for years. There are few right wing ones and of those, most aren't very good.

I can only think of Geoff Norcott who has been on loads of panel shows etc as he's right wing - yet is pretty average.

It's another weird way of looking at the world.....it's like you think that all of a sudden people aren't right wing in large numbers when the Tories have an 80 seat majority mainly based on Brexit.....there were plenty of right wing comedians of the past but you appear to think now they just don't exist?

I think you'll find if you actually moved in conservative/dissident right circles that what's more the case is that 'right wing' comedians aren't platformed by liberal and left media....which is basically the vast majority of mainstream corporate media.

It's not that they aren't out there....some of the more tamer ones are now getting gigs on GB News, which is something.

Someone controversial like Ricky Gervais (who is a kind of an old fashioned left wing libertarian) would be unlikely to have broken through on the BBC today.....he's made the same observation that his show wouldn't have been commissioned..

You mention Geoff Norcott, but I view him as tokenism who is happy to tow their line.

Once a comedian becomes know as right wing the vast majority of comedy clubs won't book them. (back in more conservative times this wasn't done to leftist comedians)...only just recently a couple of right wing comedy clubs have opened up to solve this issue.

Examples of right wing/dissident right/centralist comedians....I'm sure I'm leaving plenty out here.

Andrew Lawrence (right wing)
Alistair Williams (right wing)
Leo Kearse (self described right wing though I'd call him a small c conservative)
Andrew Doyle (Centralist)
Konstantin Kisin (centralist small c conservative)
Jerry Sadowitz (difficult to place, probably lefty libertarian)


Most right wing comedians, like who use to be regulars on the comedy circuit are now funded by fans during steams/videos, Williams, Lawrence to name a couple.


Edited by Stirlingsays (13 Jul 2022 2.54pm)

 


'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays Flag 13 Jul 22 2.56pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

It is, along with the climax of the bowling season tomorrow and Friday.

That and the fact that my wife is in daily contact with people infected with Covid which could threaten our holiday, and the trip she will make 4 days after we return, should she test positive herself.

Getting amused by idiotic comments by people incapable of reading is just a brief light relief.

I haven't been ill since I initially caught covid last July. The vaccinated seem to be re-catching this stuff all the time.

 


'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 13 Jul 22 3.34pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I haven't been ill since I initially caught covid last July. The vaccinated seem to be re-catching this stuff all the time.

That has to be a co-incidence. There is no logic to an idea that having a vaccine makes you more vulnerable.

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 13 Jul 22 3.37pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

That has to be a co-incidence. There is no logic to an idea that having a vaccine makes you more vulnerable.

It's rarely been just one vaccine....but I guess we will all find out eventually. I make no claims other than the observation.

Edited by Stirlingsays (13 Jul 2022 3.38pm)

 


'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 13 Jul 22 3.42pm

I previously stated only a day or two ago on the Covid thread that 3 people known to me now have Covid for the 3rd time and they are fully vaxxed. Thankfully all over it now.

I wonder if their recovery would have been so swift if they had chosen to inject themselves with bleach.

 


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Mapletree Flag Croydon 13 Jul 22 3.44pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

It's rarely been just one vaccine....but I guess we will all find out eventually. I make no claims other than the observation.

Edited by Stirlingsays (13 Jul 2022 3.38pm)

Old BMJ article from 2021

Data indicate that neutralising antibodies last for several months in patients with covid-19 but gently fall in number over time. One study, published in the journal Immunity, of 5882 people who had recovered from covid-19 infection, found that antibodies were still present in their blood five to seven months after illness. This was true for mild and severe cases, though people with severe disease ended up with more antibodies overall.

All of the vaccines approved so far produce strong antibody responses. The study group for the Moderna vaccine reported in April that participants in an ongoing clinical trial had high levels of antibodies six months after their second dose. A study in the Lancet found that the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine induced high antibodies with “minimal waning” for three months after a single dose.

Natural immunity appears slightly better than from the vaccines but there was some debate it may be more specific to the strain and give less broad based coverage.

 

Stirlingsays Flag 13 Jul 22 3.48pm

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

I previously stated only a day or two ago on the Covid thread that 3 people known to me now have Covid for the 3rd time and they are fully vaxxed. Thankfully all over it now.

I wonder if their recovery would have been so swift if they had chosen to inject themselves with bleach.

Kills 99.9 percent of all Trump voters dead.

Not one of his better lines admittedly.

 


'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 13 Jul 22 3.52pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Kills 99.9 percent of all Trump voters dead.

Not one of his better lines admittedly.

Natural Selection surely?

 


Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

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