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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
They aren't feelings. Mine, or anyone else's. They are the conclusions of the expert medical professionals, based on the science. Science that says men who feel like women and can't resist swimming should go into women's private space to get changed.
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Originally posted by Spiderman
Really!, Ffs I give up. Your post intimated that the article did not state it had been cancelled due to her views on transgender, you were totally wrong, as it was quite clearly there. But, as is your want, you have tried to twist it to suit your agenda. If it had been cancelled on Police advice, that would have been commented on by them. I am beginning to think you are just trolling. Edited by Spiderman (08 Oct 2022 7.53pm) Edited by Spiderman (08 Oct 2022 7.53pm) Edited by Spiderman (08 Oct 2022 7.56pm) I just know that you cannot trust newspapers, like the Mail, to present the undiluted truth. They deliberately miss out things to make what was said appear to mean something totally different. Not saying it was based on a police recommendation is exactly the kind of thing they would deliberately omit, as it doesn't fit their narrative. So I maintain a healthy scepticism. I am not saying you are wrong. I am saying that you cannot know for sure, any more than I can, based on a newspaper report. The only way would be to have either been present at the meeting, or have read the minutes. If you don't believe newspapers do this, to salve the prejudices of their readership, then you are sadly mistaken. They want you to rush to the judgement they have fed you. If the police in Brighton decided to cross dress then they could be accused of taking a political stance. Their job is to uphold the law and maintain the peace. If that means recommending events be cancelled, or postponed, they will. Our game at Brighton was postponed, initially because of the train strike, but when that was called off it remained postponed because the police could not guarantee safety as they had insufficient officers available. I have no idea if any "pro-genderism" events have been called off. It's not something I have been following. If they threatened to create a disturbance I would imagine they might have been.
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Originally posted by cryrst
So if it was cancelled on police advice; we can obviously expect the plod to put in an appeal against the court ruling ? If not then why not ? I haven’t read or heard this is happening ! Why? The case was won on a technicality. If a new application is made, everything will need to be considered again. If the police were involved, that's when they would be again.
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Originally posted by Spiderman
I have added to my post, whilst you were posting Edited by Spiderman (08 Oct 2022 7.59pm) I don't know the facts. That's the point. All we have are newspaper reports, which are far from facts. So far as I know Trump isn't a transgender, so not part of this discussion. Mind you, with his obsession on his appearance, and hair style, you never can be certain!
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Even the BBC says the council banned her.
There is an irony to these feminist activists finding them self banned and de platformed. How many of them in the seventies and eighties tried to do the same to some pale / stale and male who hadn't got the note about womens lib? Edited by Badger11 (09 Oct 2022 8.01am)
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Originally posted by Badger11
Even the BBC says the council banned her.
There is an irony to these feminist activists finding them self banned and de platformed. How many of them in the seventies and eighties tried to do the same to some pale / stale and male who hadn't got the note about womens lib? Edited by Badger11 (09 Oct 2022 8.01am) TBF Badger, I am not sure they went as far as they do these days. Maybe they would had they had access to the internet/ social media but we will never know
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Science that says men who feel like women and can't resist swimming should go into women's private space to get changed. That is the crux of the matter! They aren’t men who “feel” like women. They are women who were born with male bodies. Education is always needed whenever new revelations are discovered.
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Originally posted by Badger11
Even the BBC says the council banned her.
There is an irony to these feminist activists finding them self banned and de platformed. How many of them in the seventies and eighties tried to do the same to some pale / stale and male who hadn't got the note about womens lib? Edited by Badger11 (09 Oct 2022 8.01am) I saw that too, but it still doesn’t confirm their motivation. The BBC use agency reports just as much as other media does. People can disagree with views whilst tolerating them being expressed. What they cannot do is knowingly permit a risk to public safety. I don’t think we can be certain.
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
That is the crux of the matter! They aren’t men who “feel” like women. They are women who were born with male bodies. Education is always needed whenever new revelations are discovered. So why is swimming such a vital component to this issue?
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I saw that too, but it still doesn’t confirm their motivation. The BBC use agency reports just as much as other media does. People can disagree with views whilst tolerating them being expressed. What they cannot do is knowingly permit a risk to public safety. I don’t think we can be certain. But you are making assumptions. The council did not say they cancelled the event due to public safety concerns their statement is quite clear as to why they cancelled it. And now you will not believe the BBC an organisation you defend all the time. Clutching at straws. Just looked up Nottingham City Council they are under special measures due to financial mismanagement. Perhaps they ought to focus on delivering services to the communities rather than virtue signalling. I wonder what the good burghers of Nottingham would prefer they do. Edited by Badger11 (09 Oct 2022 10.09am)
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
That is the crux of the matter! They aren’t men who “feel” like women. They are women who were born with male bodies. Education is always needed whenever new revelations are discovered. So if their body is male, then it must be the brain that thinks they are female since they have no other female attributes, cannot reproduce as a female and will never suffer from female diseases or conditions even after hormones and surgery. Glass rods up a blind alley is not equivalence.
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
So why is swimming such a vital component to this issue? It's ought not be a vital component to this issue though. It is only because of a fear that a group of people, who mean no harm to anyone, are going to behave in ways they won't. Of course no-one thinks men should be allowed into spaces where they can make women feel uncomfortable. Transgenders aren't though men, so as long as they are discrete, and respectful, other women won't even be aware of their presence, let alone be threatened by them. It just requires common sense, awareness, respect and compassion to prevail.
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