You are here: Home > Message Board > News & Politics > I'm Andy Fly Me
November 27 2022 3.27pm

I'm Andy Fly Me

Previous Topic | Next Topic


Page 4 of 38 < 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 >

Play our World Cup 2022 Prediction League!

World Cup Prediction League 2022

Sponsor a forum or Advertise on the HOL!


 

View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 29 Sep 22 9.00pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

That's not true, though, is it?

We are not discussing flamboyant, attention seeking drag artists.

You would never know whether the kind of person we are discussing has transitioned, when they think, look, behave and dress like a woman.

What is being demanded is the precise opposite. You are expecting them to be forced to go along with your wishes and put themselves at risk by using male changing rooms and toilets.

Men who remain as men and attempt to take advantage of this (even if there is little or no evidence this actually happens) need to be treated separately.

So two of your grandchildren have or are transitioned?
How many do you have and are you a little concerned that you bred two out of about how many thousand? What are the odds on that?

 

Alert Alert a moderator to this post Edit this post Quote this post in a reply
View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Online Flag Truro Cornwall 29 Sep 22 9.49pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

So two of your grandchildren have or are transitioned?
How many do you have and are you a little concerned that you bred two out of about how many thousand? What are the odds on that?

Both are my eldest daughter's children. It took her and her husband quite an effort to come to terms with it, but they have. My eldest grandchild, who is much better informed on this than me, tells me that the reason seems likely to be a hormone imbalance in his mother during pregnancy. How unusual that is, I have no idea.

 

Alert Alert a moderator to this post Edit this post Quote this post in a reply
View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Online Flag Truro Cornwall 29 Sep 22 10.07pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Nicholas91

It is unscientific, in fact it is 'anti-science'. You show me the evidence an individual can magically change their gender and I will concede. Gender is attributed through genetics and biological make up, not subjective opinion.

You also show me any evidence that women, within the confines of a dressing room or toilet, are more or even equally, or even anything close to be the victim of, or more vulnerable to, other woman as they are to a man and again I will rethink my position. I'd also like to see any evidence that a significant let alone majority of females agree to this. I think Primark are the latest to come under fire for caving into illogical and ideological nonsense.

It is not unsubstantiated, it is a fact that humans, as biological creatures, are what they are. There is nothing to dispute this. I'm not saying your grandchild may be deluded in their belief that they are something else other than what they are but it is a biological fact, once again. You are only harming a delusional person by indulging this fantasy. If their choice is to live, dress and act as a different gender that is their prerogative and freedom however it is not scientific by even the remotest stretch of any imagination and should not be treated as such.

For all your ideological nonsense, to which you are just as entitled as others are to disagree, do not get involved in debates which rely upon more than your subjective opinions, you literally have nothing in this one. I can only hope the best for your grandchild however if they are surrounded by those so completely lost in their thinking as you have demonstrated, I do at the very least pity them.

This has nothing to do with prejudices so stop pathetically resorting to your childish and yet again intellectually bereft snipes which are nothing less than an attempt to deflect debate.

Edited by Nicholas91 (29 Sep 2022 6.15pm)

You asked. Here it is:-

[Link]

I have no need to answer your second request, because that's not what I suggested. We aren't discussing men in women's changing rooms. We are discussing transgender women in women's changing rooms, compared to predatory women in women's changing rooms. The first is no threat at all. The second is.

Everyone needs a better understanding, whatever their sex.

My grandchild is far from delusional, or indulging in fantasies. Indeed, the reverse is true. Their feet are firmly grounded whilst you are spouting deluded nonsense.

It has everything to do with prejudice. Prejudice I shared until I was forced to reconsider and revise my opinion.

 

Alert Alert a moderator to this post Edit this post Quote this post in a reply
View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Online Flag Truro Cornwall 29 Sep 22 10.14pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

Err yes it is. Gender Neutral toilets and dressing rooms being forced on the public the vast majority of whom dont want them just to pander to a minority. Companies insisting on all this pronoun rubbish etc etc.

None of this applies to the vast majority of people yet we are called Transphpobic if we object. We are being made to fit into their behaviour requirements.

Why on earth would anyone object to a gender-neutral toilet or changing room? It's a totally safe space that presents no threat, real or imagined, from anyone, and can be used by everyone, irrespective of their sexuality, or whether you approve or not.

Toilets and changing rooms are not places for ideological battles. Try showing some charity towards people who had no wish for this to happen, but now it has just want to live safely.

 

Alert Alert a moderator to this post Edit this post Quote this post in a reply
View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Online Flag Truro Cornwall 29 Sep 22 10.21pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Complete the transition and there wouldn't be a problem. Prior to that it's still a man however he "feels" - get changed next to someone's daughter and get knocked out. That's how lots of blokes "identify".

They would never know. That's the point. It's happening every day, but no-one notices. From all I have learned, those involved are only too aware of the prejudices and take great care to ensure they don't make anyone feel uncomfortable. They aren't a "man" any longer, and have no interest in other women. Perhaps you should also read this:-

[Link]

 

Alert Alert a moderator to this post Edit this post Quote this post in a reply
View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Online Flag 29 Sep 22 10.32pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

They would never know. That's the point. It's happening every day, but no-one notices. From all I have learned, those involved are only too aware of the prejudices and take great care to ensure they don't make anyone feel uncomfortable. They aren't a "man" any longer, and have no interest in other women. Perhaps you should also read this:-

[Link]

The point is that they would know if a man was walking around in their changing room. Why bother having separate facilities if anyone can just choose which one to use?

 

Alert Alert a moderator to this post Edit this post Quote this post in a reply
View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Online Flag Truro Cornwall 29 Sep 22 10.45pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

The point is that they would know if a man was walking around in their changing room. Why bother having separate facilities if anyone can just choose which one to use?

They wouldn't know if it was a transgendered woman, who looks, thinks, smells and behaves just as they do.

If it was a hairy assed git in a skirt, they would.

The two are not the same, and mustn't be confused.

 

Alert Alert a moderator to this post Edit this post Quote this post in a reply
View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Online Flag 29 Sep 22 10.52pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

They wouldn't know if it was a transgendered woman, who looks, thinks, smells and behaves just as they do.

If it was a hairy assed git in a skirt, they would.

The two are not the same, and mustn't be confused.

Hence my order my comment about transitoned peo

 

Alert Alert a moderator to this post Edit this post Quote this post in a reply
View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Online Flag 29 Sep 22 10.54pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Hence my original comment about transitioned people. If completed then there's no issue. If not then there is regardless of how they feel.

 

Alert Alert a moderator to this post Edit this post Quote this post in a reply
View HKOwen's Profile HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 29 Sep 22 11.50pm Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

Spot the white heterosexual male.

Is that a crime now?

 


Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

Alert Alert a moderator to this post Edit this post Quote this post in a reply
View HeathMan's Profile HeathMan Flag Purley 30 Sep 22 12.03am Send a Private Message to HeathMan Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add HeathMan as a friend

feel that Virgin are trying to make their staff feel comfortable. Society needs to help all people to feel comfortable at all times. mbers

 

Alert Alert a moderator to this post Edit this post Quote this post in a reply
View HeathMan's Profile HeathMan Flag Purley 30 Sep 22 12.04am Send a Private Message to HeathMan Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add HeathMan as a friend

feel that Virgin are trying to make their staff feel comfortable. Society needs to help all people to feel comfortable at all times.

 

Alert Alert a moderator to this post Edit this post Quote this post in a reply

 

Page 4 of 38 < 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 >

Previous Topic | Next Topic

You are here: Home > Message Board > News & Politics > I'm Andy Fly Me