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Jimenez Flag SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 24 Apr 17 10.59pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

Farage is an opportunist c*** who has sewn division in the country.

Ok fair summarisation. What about your views on one quarter of CPFC 2010 seemingly Pro Brexit?

 


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davenotamonkey Flag 24 Apr 17 11.08pm

Originally posted by Jimenez

Ok fair summarisation. What about your views on one quarter of CPFC 2010 seemingly Pro Brexit?

They're "racists", right? I mean you only have to look at our squad to come to that conclusion.

They're also stupid - they didn't know what they were voting for.

They were also lied to, so should be made to vote again.

 

nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 24 Apr 17 11.14pm

Originally posted by Jimenez

Ok fair summarisation. What about your views on one quarter of CPFC 2010 seemingly Pro Brexit?

I'd say it's good that three quarters didn't.

 

nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 24 Apr 17 11.16pm

Originally posted by davenotamonkey

They're "racists", right? I mean you only have to look at our squad to come to that conclusion.

They're also stupid - they didn't know what they were voting for.

They were also lied to, so should be made to vote again.


Are you being satirical. Jonathon Swift must be turning in his grave.

 

davenotamonkey Flag 24 Apr 17 11.17pm

Nothing on CETA? No one can tell me what would be so terrible about using the Canada deal as the starting point for our negotiations? Let me re-iterate the core features:

- Canada does not pay anything into the EU budget
- Canada has (depending on sector) 94-100% tariff free access to the single market (no, not membership, access)
- Canadian law is not superseded by the ECJ
- There is no freedom of movement between Canada and the EU
- Canada is the 10th largest economy by GDP.

Can someone explain to me how a country with the 5th largest world economy, a £24b+/yr trade EU deficit and 100% convergence in EU standards should not be getting at the very least the deal Canada currently has?

 

Jimenez Flag SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 24 Apr 17 11.19pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

I'd say it's good that three quarters didn't.

Actually I meant Half of CPFC 2010

 


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 24 Apr 17 11.34pm

Originally posted by Jimenez

Actually I meant Half of CPFC 2010

I'd say it depends on what reason they chose to vote leave.

I might be perturbed if it's to take are country back

 

hedgehog50 Flag Croydon 25 Apr 17 6.48am

Originally posted by nickgusset


Farage is an opportunist c*** who has sewn division in the country.

Like Corbyn isn't an opportunistic c*** who divides the country?

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 25 Apr 17 7.10am

Originally posted by nickgusset

Farage is an opportunist c*** who has sewn division in the country.

Man oh man this made me so fecking angry.

No Nick, people like you with the policies you supported, policies which created so much division for so many....That's what created Ukip.... Farage only had to represent it.

So sorry people don't see the world you do...You know.

The c--ts who decided how we should live...making huge changes without asking first....they created Farage and you fecking completely deserve him.


Edited by Stirlingsays (25 Apr 2017 7.12am)

 


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 25 Apr 17 7.43am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Man oh man this made me so fecking angry.

No Nick, people like you with the policies you supported, policies which created so much division for so many....That's what created Ukip.... Farage only had to represent it.

So sorry people don't see the world you do...You know.

The c--ts who decided how we should live...making huge changes without asking first....they created Farage and you fecking completely deserve him.


Edited by Stirlingsays (25 Apr 2017 7.12am)

UKIP are all for selling off the NHS. That's enough for me.

The blokes a self serving charlatan


Nigel Farage: I admire Vladimir Putin

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Edited by nickgusset (25 Apr 2017 7.51am)

 

Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 25 Apr 17 7.53am

Originally posted by hedgehog50

Like Corbyn isn't an opportunistic c*** who divides the country?

He has certainly divided his party and all those people who have supported the 'Labour' party year on year are NOT doing so because of him and his fellow comrades.

 

Stirlingsays Flag 25 Apr 17 8.15am

Originally posted by nickgusset

UKIP are all for selling off the NHS. That's enough for me.

The blokes a self serving charlatan


Nigel Farage: I admire Vladimir Putin

[Link]

Edited by nickgusset (25 Apr 2017 7.51am)

Errrr...why are you referring to non EU stuff?....at what point were Ukip winning an election and forming a government?

You called him an 'opportunistic c-nt'. You are quite clearly referring to his success against the EU.

 


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 25 Apr 17 8.25am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Errrr...why are you referring to non EU stuff?....at what point were Ukip winning an election and forming a government?

You called him an 'opportunistic c-nt'. You are quite clearly referring to his success against the EU.

What's UKIP's (who have no mps but get loads of press coverage) plan for Brexit?


Edited by nickgusset (25 Apr 2017 8.26am)

 

Kermit8 Flag Hevon 25 Apr 17 8.28am

Originally posted by davenotamonkey

Nothing on CETA? No one can tell me what would be so terrible about using the Canada deal as the starting point for our negotiations? Let me re-iterate the core features:

- Canada does not pay anything into the EU budget
- Canada has (depending on sector) 94-100% tariff free access to the single market (no, not membership, access)
- Canadian law is not superseded by the ECJ
- There is no freedom of movement between Canada and the EU
- Canada is the 10th largest economy by GDP.

Can someone explain to me how a country with the 5th largest world economy, a £24b+/yr trade EU deficit and 100% convergence in EU standards should not be getting at the very least the deal Canada currently has?

As a starting point? A one-size fits all solution like that is way, way too simplistic. There are just so many factors/variables from country to country that will influence relationships and deals. Personalities, positional strengths and weaknesses, public opinion, length of time to finalise a deal, hubris, etc. Don't forget, these are politicians we are talking about.

Canada won't rely on EU fruit and veg pickers, for example, to maximise productivity in that sector nor have nearly 20% of Uni Academics from EU countries as we have here [Link] so, perhaps, aspects which are convoluted for the UK/EU are much more black and white for Canada/EU

This is not the time for naive idealism. That ended with Article 50 being invoked. Hard practical solutions, please.

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 25 Apr 17 8.31am

Originally posted by nickgusset

What's UKIP's (who have no mps but get loads of press coverage) plan for Brexit?


Edited by nickgusset (25 Apr 2017 8.26am)

I don't know and it doesn't matter.

All that matters is the government's plan.

I voted for Ukip to get out of the EU. If I vote for them again it would only really be over EU related matters.

As for the press coverage. I'd say getting four million votes does deserve some....It's more than the SNP got and they get quite a lot in England.

Edited by Stirlingsays (25 Apr 2017 8.45am)

 


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Tom-the-eagle Flag Croydon 25 Apr 17 8.40am

Originally posted by nickgusset

UKIP are all for selling off the NHS. That's enough for me.

The blokes a self serving charlatan


Nigel Farage: I admire Vladimir Putin

[Link]

Edited by nickgusset (25 Apr 2017 7.51am)

I would say that Farage is anything but self-serving. As soon as we voted for Brexit he stepped down as his party leader as he believed his work to have been finished.

Farage, like Corbyn, are two of the very few actual conviction politicians who I would say aren’t indeed self-serving.


 


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CambridgeEagle Flag Sydenham 25 Apr 17 9.11am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I don't know and it doesn't matter.

All that matters is the government's plan.

I voted for Ukip to get out of the EU. If I vote for them again it would only really be over EU related matters.

As for the press coverage. I'd say getting four million votes does deserve some....It's more than the SNP got and they get quite a lot in England.

Edited by Stirlingsays (25 Apr 2017 8.45am)

SNP got more votes per seat where they stood. They also have 50 odd MPs so actually have some say in Parliament. UKIP don't. Also SNP are in power in Holyrood so actually have power to make some decisions in an important part of the UK. SNP are a lot more relevant than UKIP, especially as they are currently pushing for a second independence referendum. If Scotland leaves the UK they will then cease to be quite so relevant!

 

legaleagle Flag 25 Apr 17 9.17am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Man oh man this made me so fecking angry.

No Nick, people like you with the policies you supported, policies which created so much division for so many....That's what created Ukip.... Farage only had to represent it.

So sorry people don't see the world you do...You know.

The c--ts who decided how we should live...making huge changes without asking first....they created Farage and you fecking completely deserve him.


Edited by Stirlingsays (25 Apr 2017 7.12am)

I presume you are referring immigration? Forgive me if I am wrong.

You suggest its all people like Nick's "fault".

So far as I can see,when you refer to C**ts telling you how to live,you must mean telling you to live alongside people who are not the English "volk".Well,that rules out Wilf, Punch, Bolasie,Victor Moses, Nat Clyne etc.None of them have enriched our local football culture at all,have they?

Well,without getting into your game of "fault",ie something to blame,let's look at fundamentals.

Non EU pre 1990's immigration, fundamental starting point was the Tory governments 1951-64.This included the "muslim" immigration that vexes you so.

EU immigration (almost all non Muslim immigration).The key fundamental starting point was Thatcher's vision of an enlarged EU moving eastwards to take in the former Soviet bloc countries in Europe.

Mind you,I'd have to agree with you that Thatcher was a c**t,but for different reasons!

Edited by legaleagle (25 Apr 2017 9.19am)

 

Kermit8 Flag Hevon 25 Apr 17 9.17am

Haven't got the figures but would be very surprised if the SNP % of the Scottish vote was not significently higher than UKIPs % of the English/Scot/Welsh/Northern Irish vote combined. Their respective target audiences.

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 25 Apr 17 9.17am

Originally posted by CambridgeEagle

SNP got more votes per seat where they stood. They also have 50 odd MPs so actually have some say in Parliament. UKIP don't. Also SNP are in power in Holyrood so actually have power to make some decisions in an important part of the UK. SNP are a lot more relevant than UKIP, especially as they are currently pushing for a second independence referendum. If Scotland leaves the UK they will then cease to be quite so relevant!

What does it matter whether they got 'more votes per seat'? Hahaha! It's a UK election and it's a question about UK coverage.

Ukip actually had more votes and the question was as too whether they deserved the press they received.

They quite plainly did.

Though in matters that aren't related to the EU....I'm not quite so sure.

 


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