I think a lot of people misunderstand the role of the manager. It's to take responsibility.

The buck stops with him.

Apart from the boring football and lack of willingness to just try anything different, the main thing that has put me off Hodgson this season is his complete lack of fight for us. Imagine any of our last few managers, Allardyce, Pulis etc. having been on the receiving end of those two ridiculous VAR decisions. They’d have been elbow dropping the FA off the top rope whilst holding the ref hostage in the changing room. Hodgson just sits back in his chair fumbling around for his werthers originals.

It’s all very well losing admirably to Chelsea and Utd but when we just look average against your villas and Burnley’s etc there is something clearly very wrong.

The argument of the pro-Hodgson brigade appears to be 'He guarantees PL survival'. I just dont think that's the case.

The way we are riding our luck each season. One of these days we'll go down. Probably next season with RH in charge.

"It was a Team effort, I guess it took all players working together to lose this one"

Shhhh don't tell anyone and we will all assume you were just doing it for dramatic effect to hammer home your point.

So how on earth does Mr Hodgson cause the delivery to be so?

..and you actually do think Mr Hodgson decides games and how we will and will not cock the play up

I always blame the players, usually it's only one or two of them that miss chances at given times or make costly mistakes and I never never blame the manager, the poor bugger has to watch the pain along with us, why would he advise them to cock the play up, why?

Edited by Tickled pink (18 Jul 2020 10.22am)

With the situation Palace have regarding squad size and ability levels, it’s time to get off Roy’s back. Get him some quality players and then judge him. It’s obvious this lot have gone their distance, that’s not Roy’s fault. He has got more out of them than he was entitled to do.
The club has a big problem going foreword player wise. Roy doesn’t control that ,. So why think it all gets solved the moment he goes?

Edited by Putitout (18 Jul 2020 11.02am)

Spot on

“This is a crisis, a large crisis.... in fact if you have a moment, it’s a 12 storey crisis, magnificent entrance hall, carpeting throughout, 24 hour portage , and an enormous sign on the roof saying “This , is a large crisis” - Edmund Blackadder

I really don’t understand this view point - one of the two main measurements in the game of football is goals scored - why on earth would this not be used to measure performance. Performances don’t win football matches, goals scored do.

Many fans are saying Mr Hodgson is at fault for all our failings in front of the enemies goal and I just happen to not agree at all, take Burnely for example .. we had 17 shots at their goal and I remember mostly Ayew's close header that to me seemed easier to score, lots of fans will say we were awful against Burnley but I say if we'd be able to score just one of the many excellent opportunities we created (with Mr Hodgson watching) the impetus of this game would have more then likely gone our way and the mistake that allowed their winner would not have been as disastrous as it turned out to be.
What I'm saying is that an opportunity missed that should've been scored is providing the negativity for fans to vent their anger at our manager when quite simply if the opportunity had been taken their anger would be replaced with joy, to blame our manager for these misses is simply silly.

Goals allow fans to forget the s*** they've witnessed before and after.

Doesn't really address my point on set pieces.
We managed to score from set pieces with almost the same group of players in previous seasons.
Dann was always good for a few goals a season from them and set pieces are a very useful weapon in your armoury when you struggle to score goals through other means.
Nonetheless, I respect your right to defend Hodgson at all costs.