The argument that minorities will eventually vote for the US Republican party is an idea that's been sold for fifty years and it was a lie back then and it's a lie now.

Edited by Stirlingsays (21 Jan 2021 3.16pm)

I love West Virginia, cheap property, beautiful scenery and no people, unfortunately I live in northern Virginia closer to the DC area.

Stirling - I do tend to agree with you. However, the GOP has to find a way to be at least competitive in other demographic groups outside of whites. Trump brought in new voters in the south of Texas and Miami-date county with working class Latinos. This shift has given me some optimism that working class minorities won't vote monolithically. The democrats and left have been w***ing themselves to the whole "demographics is destiny" for the last 30 years but the truth is the only people who use newspeak terms like "LATIN X" are progressive whites. These terms are not used in Latino communities and looked at with much comedy and scorn.

Well off, well-to-do, overly credentialed, upper class white progressives and their associated god complex is a bigger problem for the GOP than working class minorities whose small businesses simply stand to benefit more from GOP policies than Democrat ones.

I love West Virginia, cheap property, beautiful scenery and no people, unfortunately I live in northern Virginia closer to the DC area.

Stirling - I do tend to agree with you. However, the GOP has to find a way to be at least competitive in other demographic groups outside of whites. Trump brought in new voters in the south of Texas and Miami-date county with working class Latinos. This shift has given me some optimism that working class minorities won't vote monolithically. The democrats and left have been w***ing themselves to the whole "demographics is destiny" for the last 30 years but the truth is the only people who use newspeak terms like "LATIN X" are progressive whites. These terms are not used in Latino communities and looked at with much comedy and scorn.

Well off, well-to-do, overly credentialed, upper class white progressives and their associated god complex is a bigger problem for the GOP than working class minorities whose small businesses simply stand to benefit more from GOP policies than Democrat ones.

Voted for Trump but his stolen election antics and lying about it since then have made me glad that Biden has won. I will disagree with almost everything Biden does, and I will find the individuals who make up his administration to be insufferable knobs. Biden has nay impossible task to walk the knife edge between a frenzied democratic party that is out for blood and moderates who just want him to manage the COVID response and recovery.

This is time for the GOP to take its lumps, do some gatekeeping about who will hold power in the party and allow the left to overstep as they inevitably will and let the winds of public opinion start blowing against them.

Kitchen table issues win elections, and my bet is the new BLM, critical race theory orthodoxy will push suburban voters back to the GOP if the GOP can't shed some of the QANON types.

Demographics will guide their approach. Previously they had little reason to appeal to non white voters. In fact a suspicion of 'the other' racially, was core to their approach. It was this election too to some extent, but this basically heralded the last time such an approach will work. I don't think you even disagree with that, but where you think this heralds the end for them, I think they'll just adjust their messaging (and as they do so non whites will be less prone to view the party as non for them). They really have little other choice.

Edited by BlueJay (21 Jan 2021 4.04pm)

Kermit?

I have no idea if thats all true so can"t comment, but I did see him getting more flak than anyone on here, like wisbech now, although wis"s has slowed down recently, but Nik did get bullied, maybe the reason he lost it at the end, and kermit resigned in sympathy! I see the right trying to silence good left side players, by ganging up, i don"t understand why as it would be a very sad site if all we could do is praise Boris, farage and the don,a bit like palace playing palace ladies every saturday(no score draws are very boring)!

Federalism and increased local autonomy are the answer. Even if by that logic then places like San Francisco can be sanctuary cities. So be it - no interest in going to California anyways as our hound dogs don't like noise from heavily populated areas.

From my view, its not that the Democrats actually care about minorities or climate change, or any boutique issue they cry about. They only care about power and about being the ones in charge. That being said Trump became an albatross for the GOP in the end, I truly believe he cost us the senate seats in Georgia by making the voting fraud and stolen election stuff a wedge issue amongst his own party.

The Republicans have opportunity to re-take the house, and white house in 2024 if they can offer up a coherent candidate. Biden will be 82 and on the midnight train to slab city, Kamala is only where she is in life because she got on her knees every step of the way. The GOP needs to be on their game.

For now the old trusty "Liberal International Order" is back in the drivers seat, and the sole beneficiary of the "Liberal International Order" is China - who oddly enough isn't liberal, international and maybe slightly orderly in their own revolting way.

And a Trump voter! If you believe everything some write on here, this poster does not exist, who’d have thought it