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55 years a fan Flag 09 Apr 23 4.22pm

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

next August.

Croydon Roy

Absolutely.


 

CPFC Dartford Flag Dartford 09 Apr 23 4.24pm

I think we can close this thread. It’s Roy on a rolling 1 year contract.

 

inflikted Flag 09 Apr 23 4.29pm

I would be happy with Potter or Cooper. Both great with a stable squad and agreed plan with the board on how to progress, both screwed this season by insane owners buying entirely new squads and expecting them to instantly work.

As a wildcard, Fabian Hürzeler, 10 games in professional management and 10 wins, taking St Pauli from a relegation fight to outsiders for automatic promotion. Might be too early but signs are he's going to be one hell of a manager.

 


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Oxford Don Flag North West of SP 09 Apr 23 4.42pm

Originally posted by beak

This thread has no purpose now, It is Roy Hodgson by a country mile.

Well yes, but odds on Roy and Paddy will be poached by Chelsea (as well as Olise, Eze, Guehi etc)...

 


You can't change the way things are but you can change the way you are with the way things are.

Na hEireann Iolar Flag London 09 Apr 23 6.29pm

Originally posted by inflikted

I would be happy with Potter or Cooper. Both great with a stable squad and agreed plan with the board on how to progress, both screwed this season by insane owners buying entirely new squads and expecting them to instantly work.

As a wildcard, Fabian Hürzeler, 10 games in professional management and 10 wins, taking St Pauli from a relegation fight to outsiders for automatic promotion. Might be too early but signs are he's going to be one hell of a manager.

As a St Pauli fan, If he gets them to Bundesliga 1 he will be in demand, the German Ian Dowie perhaps?

 

radicalsteve Flag ottawa 10 Apr 23 1.46am

St. Pauli has an amazing fan base, rabid lot, nothing less than 100 percent - that part of Hamburg is just like South London and their noise might just go beyond our Homesdale Fanatics in terms of decibels!

Originally posted by Na hEireann Iolar

As a St Pauli fan, If he gets them to Bundesliga 1 he will be in demand, the German Ian Dowie perhaps?

 

dreamwaverider Flag London 10 Apr 23 5.31am

Our DNA as you call it revolves around more recent years growth of the club , our players and their style, supported by the recognition and exposure of our hardcore Ultras being accepted and fully supported by the rest of the stadium, creating a furnace of home and away support.
Before the likes of Wright and Bright supported by Andy Grey, Geoff Thomas, Southgate, Johnny Salako, and more we had Don Rogers and Steve Kember, Alan Whittle, then Lombardo and Vince Hilaire, Clinton Morrison. Before them, the likes of Yogi Hughes, Gerry Queen, Johnny Byrne. Many more, talented skilful front runners supported by some hefty defenders and classic goalkeepers. John McCormick, Johnny Sewell, Jim Cannon. John Jackson, Nigel Martin, to name but a few.
Then Andy Johnston stepping stone us into the current gathering of young black players largely originating from the wider South London region. For some reason (DNA?) we have gone for the highly skilled ball players who have built on this theme.
Bolasie, Zaha Schluppie, now being joined by Eze, Olise, Doukoure, Hughes, Macarthur and more.
Ive only touched randomly on names, but it shows the progress to what we saw at Leeds.

What Roy has done is tidied us up and let these super talents shine.

Once Eze and Olise warmed up they were unstoppable. Their joint goal really printing our DNA on the game, followed by 3000 travelling fans 'We love you' rendition. With Ayew Edouard and Mateta and the rest of them joining the party supported by Doucoure and Schluppie (who was our stand out player for much of the game) while at the back Johnstone shone behind Anderson and Guehi our DNA was for all to see.
Roy knew it was there before he arrived and more importantly knew how to maximise it. That was what Pat had been struggling with. Roy has arrived and let them play to their maximum ability giving them the freedom to perform (and WOW have they responded) which is why yesterday we had our biggest win of the season WITHOUT our star Zaha.

Guehi and Anderson got a hold of things when we were on the ropes after 20 minutes. They pulled them all together and started the frightening fight back.

All you posters on here who were telling Roy how to do this or that (which he didn't do) like get Ayew off or Schluppie off or whatever, showed why you have never been managers of a premier club or England unlike Roy and why you should definitely stay as just fans!.

In two games Roy has put us back on course with some of the most exciting players ever in our DNA chain and Palace shirts, and excitingly loads more emerging at the academy. With Lewington and McCarthy in his team Roy is shaping the club for the future already. Not hard when you have his skills. As I already said, ex England. He didn't get that post for nothing.

We all owe Roy the hugest respect and Im sure we all hope he pulls it off to keep us up, which is now looking highly likely. If things go well I hope Parish sees sense in using Roy further and his evident understanding of our 'DNA' to help shape the future.

Don't lose sight of who saw the need to bring Roy back and acted decisively to do it. I don't think many of us were sure at all. So hats off to Parish.
Now we've just got to keep playing our part, getting behind them, support them and help the push upwards to safety and beyond.

 

Croydon-Trucker Flag 10 Apr 23 9.05am

Yes if we keep up the run of results i see no reason for Roy not to be manager next year.

 

Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 10 Apr 23 9.26am

Originally posted by Croydon-Trucker

Yes if we keep up the run of results i see no reason for Roy not to be manager next year.

Mr Hodgson might not wish to continue of course given that he is in the dusk of life.
It is one matter undertaking a role on a short-term basis, a totally different "Ball game" committing to a longer assignment.

Two wins in two games under Mr Hodgson and the portents are encouraging but there are more games still to be played and we could get into 'Pitchy seas' as the season unfolds.

Edited by Willo (10 Apr 2023 9.28am)

 

Teddy Eagle Flag 10 Apr 23 9.45am

Originally posted by Willo

Mr Hodgson might not wish to continue of course given that he is in the dusk of life.
It is one matter undertaking a role on a short-term basis, a totally different "Ball game" committing to a longer assignment.

Two wins in two games under Mr Hodgson and the portents are encouraging but there are more games still to be played and we could get into 'Pitchy seas' as the season unfolds.

Edited by Willo (10 Apr 2023 9.28am)

Apparently, I didn't see it myself but was told, he's said he's not averse to the idea of another job. Of course that might be a reaction to the way we're playing and the fact he's missed being involved for a while.
The way he's going Chelsea could be casting envious glances!

 

Casual Flag Orpington 10 Apr 23 9.51am

Originally posted by CPFC Dartford

I personally would love to see Rodgers at Palace. Young but plenty of experience. I just think it could really be a good match. I see a bit of what we had under Steve Coppell with him. He was paid 10 million a year at Leicester though so not sure he’s within our budget.

Rogers or Postecoglu from Celtic.
Think carrick will go West Ham if Boro don’t get promoted, so we need someone in place before moyes becomes available.

 

Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 10 Apr 23 9.54am

Originally posted by Casual

Rogers or Postecoglu from Celtic.
Think carrick will go West Ham if Boro don’t get promoted, so we need someone in place before moyes becomes available.

Neither of whom, I suspect, would be remotely interested in taking up the reins at our club.

 

beak Flag croydon 10 Apr 23 10.08am

Originally posted by Willo

Mr Hodgson might not wish to continue of course given that he is in the dusk of life.
It is one matter undertaking a role on a short-term basis, a totally different "Ball game" committing to a longer assignment.

Two wins in two games under Mr Hodgson and the portents are encouraging but there are more games still to be played and we could get into 'Pitchy seas' as the season unfolds.

Edited by Willo (10 Apr 2023 9.28am)


In the MOTD interview with Roy he hinted that he would be happy to continue.

 

taylors lovechild Flag 10 Apr 23 10.10am

Originally posted by Willo

Mr Hodgson might not wish to continue of course given that he is in the dusk of life.
It is one matter undertaking a role on a short-term basis, a totally different "Ball game" committing to a longer assignment.

Two wins in two games under Mr Hodgson and the portents are encouraging but there are more games still to be played and we could get into 'Pitchy seas' as the season unfolds.

Edited by Willo (10 Apr 2023 9.28am)

Whether Roy can or would continue to have us playing football like the second-half yesterday if he stays in charge is one thing, whether he has the energy for a whole season is another. He clearly is not the long-term answer, so then the question is whether we have a long-term answer in mind? Or do we even need one given the MO of most clubs now is to keep a manager while they're hot and ditch them when you hit a bad run.

I have no issue with Roy's age if he passes an MOT, but in the last few years when things haven't been going well he has looked a bit lost and tired and the football has reflected that. We saw it in his final season with us and it showed up again at Watford. I have no desire to see Royball return, but if the new and improved Royball V2 were to stick around of course I'd be happy; who wouldn't?

 

PatrickA Flag London 10 Apr 23 10.15am

If the positive results continue and the players continue to respond positively to the methods of Hodgson and Lewington I suspect there may well be a growing clamour for them to continue next season.
Their demeanour and enthusiasm lead me to believe they would give it serious consideration and Roy has maintained that he has never considered himself as retired and it’s just others who have advised him of this status.
Personally I could only see another year’s extension for them if we can’t identify a suitable candidate or if a preferred candidate turns us down.

However, I do see one potential complication going forward.
McCarthy has been promoted to the role of assistant manager and is clearly well thought of at the club.
It may be a temporary promotion , but how would McCarthy feel about having to go back to under 21 duty next season if that happens?
If on the other hand the intention is to keep him in the first team setup would a new manager be happy with this arrangement when they usually like to surround themselves with their own choice of staff?

Some will say the easy solution would be to keep Hodgson, Lewington and McCarthy at the helm next season , but this could be perceived as a cop out and reluctance to make the necessary long term decisions for the club’s future.

 

Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 10 Apr 23 10.19am

A perfect start for Mr Hodgson in terms of results and team performances, accordingly I can understand the arguments for retaining his services, however there are 8 games remaining and I shall reserve judgement until later.

 

Putitout Flag Oxford 10 Apr 23 10.25am

Originally posted by beak


In the MOTD interview with Roy he hinted that he would be happy to continue.

If he could get them playing week in week out like they have in the last two games, I would be happy for him to carry on. It’s a misconception that Hodgson only favours totally defensive modes of football, if the players available can play a more offensive style he will use that.
If he knows he can still do it, and his results confirm that, why not?

 

Qwijibo Flag Bournemouth 10 Apr 23 10.38am

I'm in favour of assessing all candidates and establishing who's the most suitable.

My head tells me that Dougie and Steve should have an ongoing shortlist of coaches, managers and players to ensure an ever-evolving process of smooth continuity. However, this has literally never happened, and we will stick with our tried and tested approach of deciding which horse to buy 3 days after the previous one has bolted.

Having said that, if Roy were to do well, and get another year's contract, he will have been here 15 months or so by the end of it.

He seems like a short term appointment, yet how many managers last longer than 15/18 months in the bottom half of the league?

At least we will know what we are going to get. Dougie & Steve can decide what their strategy is, and start planning for 2024.

 

cROYdonrogers Flag Leamington Spa 10 Apr 23 10.42am

Absolutely delighted with what he has done. His impact on one or two individual players eg Mitchell is there to see. For this alone he deserves the love and respect from everyone, and a free lifetime season ticket.
But a full season at his age. I'm not so sure that will work. Seek his views for sure but we need a longer term viable option. I would not let the likes of Marsch near the checkouts at Sainsburys. This appointment is crucial. The players liked PV but I sense they respect Roy. Somebody pragmatic and realistic is what we need. Who I don't have a clue.

 

Jacey Flag 10 Apr 23 10.44am

Originally posted by Putitout

If he could get them playing week in week out like they have in the last two games, I would be happy for him to carry on. It’s a misconception that Hodgson only favours totally defensive modes of football, if the players available can play a more offensive style he will use that.
If he knows he can still do it, and his results confirm that, why not?

If Roy continues to produce massive wins on this scale,what is there not to like??
If his health permits,all in favour of a new one year extension.

 

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