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 Matov  23 Jun 21 3.52pm |
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Originally posted by croydon proud
Staffing crisis forces "Pied a Terre" to ditch lunches.One of Londons longest -standing Michelin-starred restaurants is to close for lunch this weekend because of an acute staffing crisis in the hospitality industry.David Moore, the owner of Pied a Terre in Fitzrovia, said covid and furlough had played a part, but the staff shortage was firmly down to brexit. This, and the wetherspoons brexiteer chap wanting softer rules to allow europeans in, together with farmers not getting enough workers to pick the veg, leading to higher prices.The reality of the situation is coming to the fore, lets all enjoy the ride! The solution is simple. Pay higher wages and offer training. Supply and demand. Surely you want peoples wages to go up? Or is that a bad thing?
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| Matov 23 Jun 21 3.57pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Why do brexiteers persist in this completely false argument that the EU will breakup. It is nonsense. The EU can move ahead without the UKs continued obstruction. So its win-win? We get our sovereignty back and the EU gets to move forward with its own army and abolishing the veto for memberstates. What is not to like?
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croydon proud  Any european country i fancy! 23 Jun 21 3.59pm |
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Originally posted by Matov
The solution is simple. Pay higher wages and offer training. Supply and demand. Surely you want peoples wages to go up? Or is that a bad thing? Yes, good idea mate, but tell Boris, not me.If the elected government put the minimum wage up, then more people might be bothered to go and get a job , instead of doing just as well watching daytime tv!
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| croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 23 Jun 21 4.02pm |
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Originally posted by Matov
It makes almost zero difference to the average person in England if Scotland does decide to go its own way. There are certain strategic interests such as the nuclear bases and I guess that since Scotland would still have the Queen as head of state, our armed forces could still recruit but the country already has its own legal and education system so really, effectively in many ways already a separate country. I am increasingly moving a position where by I look at all these threats about breaking up the UK and wondering what all the fuss is about? If Scotland wants to join the EU then good luck to it. They voted in favour of remaining and I reckon they deserve another independence vote. Give it to them ASAP is my stance now. Why would anybody on the left actually want the UK to remain together? Seriously? I have to agree with you again mate, let the Scots go if they vote to, but again, tell Boris, let them vote again and soon, don"t put it on the burner!
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| Matov 23 Jun 21 4.03pm |
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Originally posted by croydon proud
Yes, good idea mate, but tell Boris, not me.If the elected government put the minimum wage up, then more people might be bothered to go and get a job , instead of doing just as well watching daytime tv! Not quite sure I get your point. Both Wetherspoons and this Restaurant are free to pay whatever wages they want above the minimum wage. That is the issue. If you cannot get staff then it is because the conditions are not attractive enough. Therefore improve them or continue not to be able to open.
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| croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 23 Jun 21 4.07pm |
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Originally posted by Matov
The solution is simple. Pay higher wages and offer training. Supply and demand. Surely you want peoples wages to go up? Or is that a bad thing? Matov, with us both agreeing on workers rights to a better wage, does that make us both capitalists or socialists? Maybe we should start our own union !
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| croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 23 Jun 21 4.13pm |
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Originally posted by Matov
Not quite sure I get your point. Both Wetherspoons and this Restaurant are free to pay whatever wages they want above the minimum wage. That is the issue. If you cannot get staff then it is because the conditions are not attractive enough. Therefore improve them or continue not to be able to open. But the point is, with no pesky eastern europeans to work after brexit, they are not attracting enough"local born an bred" people to work, as they might prefer to stay home with tv and getting up at mid day, I don"t blame them if they can get away with it! If the minimum wage was raised, to say £10 an hour, perhaps it would benefit these "locals", to get a job, and the brexiteer wetherspoons chap could attract home grown talent! They are obviously not paying enough, for "locals" to bother working, so raise the minimum wage so they have to! That is the job of hm gov, one Boris bunter!
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Jimenez  SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 23 Jun 21 4.15pm |
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Originally posted by Matov
The solution is simple. Pay higher wages and offer training. Supply and demand. Surely you want peoples wages to go up? Or is that a bad thing? It all depends what you'd call a higher wage? I'm assuming this restaurant in Fitzrovia is very high end so wages would be decent?
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| Jimenez SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 23 Jun 21 4.16pm |
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| Spiderman Horsham 23 Jun 21 4.22pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Why do brexiteers persist in this completely false argument that the EU will breakup. It is nonsense. The EU can move ahead without the UKs continued obstruction. Vaccines actually are nothing to do with brexit, and the UK is now dependent on the EU for them anyway. The UK, if it had remained, would probably have tried to block the recovery fund, and the China/EU deal to appease Biden. With friends like Johnson, who needs enemies? Taking back our waters is he? Well Johnson they are full of s**t, just like you are. I didn’t actually say it would breakup. If the EU can move ahead without the UKs continued obstruction (?),
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| Spiderman Horsham 23 Jun 21 4.24pm |
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Originally posted by croydon proud
I have to agree with you again mate, let the Scots go if they vote to, but again, tell Boris, let them vote again and soon, don"t put it on the burner! Serious question CP, as the vote is for the possible breakup of the Union, do you think we should all have a vote? Personally I think we should
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| Spiderman Horsham 23 Jun 21 4.25pm |
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Originally posted by croydon proud
Matov, with us both agreeing on workers rights to a better wage, does that make us both capitalists or socialists? Maybe we should start our own union ! Or get a room
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| Spiderman Horsham 23 Jun 21 4.25pm |
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Originally posted by croydon proud
Yes, good idea mate, but tell Boris, not me.If the elected government put the minimum wage up, then more people might be bothered to go and get a job , instead of doing just as well watching daytime tv! You know my views on the minimum wage CP
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Orange1290  23 Jun 21 4.26pm |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
I didn’t actually say it would breakup. If the EU can move ahead without the UKs continued obstruction (?),
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| Spiderman Horsham 23 Jun 21 4.28pm |
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Originally posted by croydon proud
When you say no pesky Eastern European’s CP, latest figures show close to 6million EU nationals have applied to live and work in the UK. I believe I am right in stating this figure foes not include those who already have indefinite leave to remain Edited by Spiderman (23 Jun 2021 4.29pm)
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| croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 23 Jun 21 4.28pm |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
Serious question CP, as the vote is for the possible breakup of the Union, do you think we should all have a vote? Personally I think we should Its a good question mate, but i think as Scotland is its own country it should be confined to them alone, how would you vote spider?
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| Spiderman Horsham 23 Jun 21 4.30pm |
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Originally posted by croydon proud
Its a good question mate, but i think as Scotland is its own country it should be confined to them alone, how would you vote spider? I would vote for them to leave, let them do their own thing. If that makes me a flag waving nationalist, fine Edited by Spiderman (23 Jun 2021 4.32pm)
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| croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 23 Jun 21 4.30pm |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
When you say no pesky Eastern European’s CP, latest figures show close to 6million EU nationals have applied to live and work in the UK. I believe I am right in stating this figure foes not include those who already have indefinite leave to remain Edited by Spiderman (23 Jun 2021 4.29pm) Tell that to the michelin starred restaurant owner and chief brexiteer wetherspoons bloke mate, they say they can"t get anyone as they all went home!
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| Spiderman Horsham 23 Jun 21 4.32pm |
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Originally posted by croydon proud
Tell that to the michelin starred restaurant owner and chief brexiteer wetherspoons bloke mate, they say they can"t get anyone as they all went home! Perhaps that’s what they told him Edited by Spiderman (23 Jun 2021 4.34pm)
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| croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 23 Jun 21 4.34pm |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
I would vote for them to leave, let them do their own thing I would to. Including the whole of gb to vote , is a bit like including the whole of the Eu to vote in our brexit vote, as we were all Eu countries-at the time.
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