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 Hrolf The Ganger  21 Apr 23 10.46am |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Tory MP slams 'lefty luvvies' as she pinpoints blame for St. George's Day decline, not more and more people regarding it as the cobblers it is. They are 'remainers' according to Andrea Jenkyn. Not that I mind a National Day, but how about Shakespeare at least someone who was English. Slaying dragons in Libya for the Romans does not somehow seem relevant to England, but then she is a 'leaver' so would not be attached to any reality herself, would she.
Yeah, except that he probably didn't actually write the plays. It was most likely Edward de Vere. Not really something to wave a flag about. The Irish don't need a reason to get dressed up and drink too much.
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| Badger11 Beckenham 27 Apr 23 7.11am |
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I agree with this article about Sudan. Government advice has not changed in decades, don't go, and yet 4000 people are there and complaining that we are not doing enough.
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| Mapletree Croydon 27 Apr 23 8.50am |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Yeah, except that he probably didn't actually write the plays. It was most likely Edward de Vere. Not really something to wave a flag about. The Irish don't need a reason to get dressed up and drink too much. Classic conspiracy theory. This site is so full of it. Highly unlikely. I assume you are an anti-Stratfordian because our Bill wasn’t posh enough to be so successful.
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| Stirlingsays 27 Apr 23 8.56am |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
Classic conspiracy theory. This site is so full of it. Highly unlikely. I assume you are an anti-Stratfordian because our Bill wasn’t posh enough to be so successful. He isn't yours Mr Individualist.
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Teddy Eagle  27 Apr 23 9.03am |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
Classic conspiracy theory. This site is so full of it. Highly unlikely. I assume you are an anti-Stratfordian because our Bill wasn’t posh enough to be so successful. The classic conspiracy theory is that the plays were written by Francis Bacon but actors balked at working for the Royal Bacon Company.
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| Stirlingsays 27 Apr 23 9.06am |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Tory MP slams 'lefty luvvies' as she pinpoints blame for St. George's Day decline, not more and more people regarding it as the cobblers it is. They are 'remainers' according to Andrea Jenkyn. Not that I mind a National Day, but how about Shakespeare at least someone who was English. Slaying dragons in Libya for the Romans does not somehow seem relevant to England, but then she is a 'leaver' so would not be attached to any reality herself, would she.
Progressives make such a big deal of this. St George is a patron saint of several countries....not just England. Somehow I doubt people are making this same point there. The progressives always seem to delight in fact checking the St George story....in their never ending desire to denigrate nationalism.....of course they often produce a one eyed version themselves rather than an objective historical one. They don't really care that the St George myth is largely no different to the King Arthur legends and no one was ever going around claiming that St George was slaying dragons in early Kent. They can't just let people enjoy their national day the way they want to. Edited by Stirlingsays (27 Apr 2023 9.10am)
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| Badger11 Beckenham 27 Apr 23 9.13am |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
Classic conspiracy theory. This site is so full of it. Highly unlikely. I assume you are an anti-Stratfordian because our Bill wasn’t posh enough to be so successful. Agreed. Most of the it wasn't Shakespeare theories are just snobbery, how could a small town grammar schoolboy write plays about countries he never visited / the classics and histories. No it had to be a toff. Actually we don't know that Shakespeare didn't go to Italy for instance there's no proof either way. As for where did he get his data from the answer is quite simple. For the histories he mainly used Holinshed's Chronicles which was a famous history book at the time. As for may of his foreign plays many of them are based on older well known classic stories. Maybe he was just a bright boy who read the classics. Edited by Badger11 (27 Apr 2023 9.14am)
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| Stirlingsays 27 Apr 23 9.19am |
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Originally posted by Badger11
Agreed. Most of the it wasn't Shakespeare theories are just snobbery, how could a small town grammar schoolboy write plays about countries he never visited / the classics and histories. No it had to be a toff. Actually we don't know that Shakespeare didn't go to Italy for instance there's no proof either way. As for where did he get his data from the answer is quite simple. For the histories he mainly used Holinshed's Chronicles which was a famous history book at the time. As for may of his foreign plays many of them are based on older well known classic stories. Maybe he was just a bright boy who read the classics. Edited by Badger11 (27 Apr 2023 9.14am) A chap I listen to was a well known (in those circles) Shakespearean scholar who wrote several books on the guy and tends to this view. When you read Shakespeare's will it seems quite in line with the accepted narrative. Never been into Shakespeare myself and don't really have a view. However, whenever you read his stuff within the context of the time, the incredible talent is obvious. Edited by Stirlingsays (27 Apr 2023 9.22am)
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Forest Hillbilly  in a hidey-hole 27 Apr 23 9.54am |
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Are you suggesting Shakespeare would vote Tory ?
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| georgenorman 27 Apr 23 10.02am |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
The classic conspiracy theory is that the plays were written by Francis Bacon but actors balked at working for the Royal Bacon Company. Was that before he turned to painting?
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| georgenorman 27 Apr 23 10.09am |
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Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly
Are you suggesting Shakespeare would vote Tory ? Tory, or not Tory, that is the question.
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| Stirlingsays 27 Apr 23 10.16am |
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Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly
Are you suggesting Shakespeare would vote Tory ? God knows, the one thing that we can definitely be sure of is that he'd be exceedingly rich.
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