Those of us that work in the global economy see it real time Penge. The best people from e.g. Romania or Italy are heading to other locations. Germany is popular, I found it really easy to get them to move to Luxembourg. We tried recently to get Poles and Romanians to come to the UK, nigh on impossible. They will go where they have greater certainty.

I mention Romania and Italy as those are brilliant locations for outstanding mathematicians, on average way better than their UK indigenous competition.

Just goes to show you can't believe everything you read, after all Stirling posted an article which stated the UK benefitted by £4bn.

Unfortunately alot of people take what is said as gospel from the press like the daily mail rather look at the benefits of EU membership objectively

Paua oouaarancì Irà chiyeah Ishé galé ma ba oo ah

The EU population are only contributing because they are denied benefits that the native population aren't.

It's not them doing us a favour or being somehow more productive.

The reasons the EU migrants have to go is nothing to do with economics.....Just how many times has this point been made already.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Well you LOVE extra government to interfere in your life. I don't.

Edited by Penge Eagle (25 Oct 2018 4.07pm)

racism?

Paua oouaarancì Irà chiyeah Ishé galé ma ba oo ah

Your only counter arguments are "that's what is says the Daily Mail", "that's what Farage says" and "racist." Would be nice to debate with facts, reason and logic.

Funnily enough not only do I know that but I tried to bring some in from China, the USA and from Russia.

Not a flaming hope. This is one reason why post Brexit is going to be a nightmare.

And by the way, how many thousands of mental health nurses are we short? I tried to bring in some supremely qualified ones from Manila. Frustrated every step of the way, it took away a year of my life. Not one single nurse was given a work permit.

If you seriously think we can replace the talent we obtained from the EU through immigration from other countries you are living in cloud cuckoo land.

Some people have actually walked the walk, and frankly it looks bleak. Please don't repeat back to me the nonsense sent out by politicians, on this one I certainly know better.

....and while we're talking Europe, Italy are still a huge problem to the ever so 'accommodating bloc' and Deutsche Bank, despite all their cost cutting are still unable to crawl out of the s*** that they created (sorry Chris but as posted previously, you're wrong bud).
These are two huge problems for you all.

Buy Litecoin.

I don't understand your point. On this occasion mine was that, in particular recently, businesses are being prevented from hiring crucial resources that are available in abundance overseas. I believe that largely we are being crippled by politics.

The nurses are budgeted for, we just can't get them. So instead the few that are around are sold on as temps by agencies who take a massive cut just for keeping - often relatively poor - nurses churning through the system. And it isn't only the public sector, by any means. There are plenty of private dementia services in need of RMNs that simply are not allowed to bring them in. And it's going to get a whole whole whole lot worse by the time I am even more cuckoo and need them.

We do have quite a few Romanian and Polish nurses. Sadly I have been watching them going back to Poland (where incomes are now rising steeply) or on to Germany and the Benelux countries. When I ask why they say they don't trust the UK any more.

Is your answer. We need to cut the waste from the NHS dare I say people in HR & other non essential other departments !!

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