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deleted1 02 Dec 04 12.37am

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A_JsShorts 02 Dec 04 12.38am

And your reason for that is because I didn't boycott the mirror?

 

deleted1 02 Dec 04 12.44am

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A_JsShorts 02 Dec 04 12.47am

No but judging a paper on its unfair representation of a football team is a bit pathetic whereas I judge a paper on the fact of how racisit, homophobic and completly ignorant of the facts it usually is (not mentioning the mail today as an example)

 

deleted1 02 Dec 04 12.51am

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A_JsShorts 02 Dec 04 12.57am

I think you need to stop judging people on what paper they chose to read Stu, Piers got what was coming to him with regards to those photos, but all the other papers jumped on the bandwagon too until they were found to be fake so they are all guilty. I have a 28 minute commute I read what I can if not I sleep!

 

deleted1 02 Dec 04 1.01am

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A_JsShorts 02 Dec 04 1.07am

Well actually I am currently reading a book called Brick Lane therefore have no reason to read a paper on the train, and no its not because it is easy to read. The mirror is a tabloid in fierce competition with the sun and will do anything to gain a higher readership. I am intelligent enough not to take what is in papers as gospel.

When i mean 'read what I can' I mean what papers are left in the shop at the station which just happens to occasionally be the mirror.

 

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Penge Eagle Flag Beckenham 02 Dec 04 1.16am

I've only just read this topic and I must say Cucking Funt's post on page 9 is extremely well put across and I wholeheartedly agree!

As a footnote, does anyone find the following offensive? If you know rugby, you would know that the front row are renowned for being tough but thick.

Remember the joke about the rugby team going to dinner on tour? The backs order steak.

"What about the vegetables?" asks the waiter.

"Oh, they'll have steak, too," the backs say.

A mate of mine felt that it was offensive to people in comas!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Talk about PC gone mad! Forget immigrants, it's the white PC brigade that are wrecking this country.

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Seth Flag On a pale blue dot 02 Dec 04 12.58pm

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Yeah ***, I think you knew my comment was not to be taken literally. Are you able to detect irony?"As others have noted here, the problem is not with non-whites but the do-gooding, Guardian reading, left wing thinkers who have us by the throats from Downing Street, through to the town halls up and down the country."Do you really think Blair is a left-wing Guardian reading do-gooder? He's more right-wing that many Tory PM's have been, and as for Blunkett, he's out-Howarded Howard as the least liberal Home Secretary in living memory!For the record, these are the stats from the last local council elections (from [Link] )Tories: over 8000 council seats in Great Britain (37% of the total, more than any other party)Labour: approx 6700 seats, 30% of the totalLib Dems: approx 4700 seats, 21% of the totalSo to use a phrase like "do-gooding, Guardian reading, left wing thinkers who have us by the throats from Downing Street, through to the town halls up and down the country" is palpably wrong. You can see more councillors are Tory than any other party, and should really be able to tell from their policies that this Government is about as left-wing as George Dubya Bush.

 


"You can feel the stadium jumping. The stadium is actually physically moving up and down"
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Cucking Funt Flag Clapham on the Back 02 Dec 04 2.53pm

Using the total number of councillors is misleading, as it doesn't accurately reflect the number of councils controlled by whatever party. Worse, it also doesn't reflect those councils which are 'hung' (of which there are quite a few) and where the balance of power is dictated by minority parties or even individuals.

And yes, I do think Blair is a Guardian reading, do-gooding left winger. The other broadsheets are generally so sceptical about him and his ideals that I can't imagine him feeling comfortable with them.

For the record, I also think he's a c*nt.

 


Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

Seth Flag On a pale blue dot 02 Dec 04 3.57pm

Quote Cucking Funt at 02 Dec 2004 2:53pm

Using the total number of councillors is misleading, as it doesn't accurately reflect the number of councils controlled by whatever party. Worse, it also doesn't reflect those councils which are 'hung' (of which there are quite a few) and where the balance of power is dictated by minority parties or even individuals.

And yes, I do think Blair is a Guardian reading, do-gooding left winger. The other broadsheets are generally so sceptical about him and his ideals that I can't imagine him feeling comfortable with them.

For the record, I also think he's a c*nt.


I'm trying to show that phrases like "Town Halls up & down the country" is misleading, because many of those are controlled by Tories or Lib Dems, or Blairite Labour groups which, by any reasonable estimate, could hardly be described as left-wing.

If you think Blair is left-wing, I'd hate to see a right-wing government in this country. Can't you see all New Labour does is steal Tory policies & support to keep themselves in power?

I think it's unlikely Blair reads any newspapers because he wouldn't have the time. Anyway, the Guardian has been very critical of him recently (especially over Iraq) so he wouldn't find a lot of comfort there either. And remember the Sun (along with other traditionally Tory papers)backed him in the last 2 elections and I don't think you could describe Rupert Murdoch as part of the PC brigade, could you?

 


"You can feel the stadium jumping. The stadium is actually physically moving up and down"
FA Cup MOTD 24/4/16

tome Flag Inner Tantalus Time. 02 Dec 04 4.30pm

Probably about time I stuck my neck out on this thread.

Good point Seth - as I read the Independent, I can claim a certain amount of middle ground. Firstly, Cucking's extended post on the various merits of white and black culture should be attacked. White culture and white systems have dominated this country since the year dot. Teh encouragement and promotion of ethnic minority culture is an important step in continuing integration in a society not yet rid of the evil of racism. There is no need to promote white culutre - it's all around us, everywhere. And anyway, can you objectively identify 'white culture'? Ethnic minority culture is readily identifiable precisely because it is different - there are various influences from different backgrounds that create a fascinating muluticultural mix. What we need to do is to promote the fact that this combination, with all its different expression, is essentially a British culture. Culture is not static, it changes with time and experience, just as it is now. That is why we need the inovolvement of ethnic minority imput - because they are part of our society, and they have yet to become completely immersed and involved as an integral part. Hence the promotion of publications like the Voice - this exists precisely because of the inequality in this country, and when the level of inequality is reduced or eventually destroyed, there will be no need for such publications.

Grr. I'm off to word games.

 


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tome Flag Inner Tantalus Time. 02 Dec 04 5.18pm

And what?

 


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tome Flag Inner Tantalus Time. 02 Dec 04 5.44pm

Define 'english culture'

 


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