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Stirlingsays Flag 05 Jan 21 12.10am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I don't believe for a moment that I have ever said "that the truth can be covered up if you think it leads to worst outcomes." I suspect that to be another of the gross misrepresentations you are so extraordinarily fond of.

That there are times when our security forces, or other public officials like the Police, may suppress stories if to release them would be against the public interest is obvious. D notices still exist.

So sometimes the truth can be withheld by some people if to release would not be wise.

The right to free speech is not absolute. Every right has to be exercised responsibly and lawfully. Without the law there is no freedom. Only anarchy.

That you categorise people by your own standards always says so much more about you then ever it does about them. Being thought "disingenuous" by you seems like a compliment to me. Whether any of the posters here would see themselves as "progressive left" is an open question which only they can answer. Your opinion, or mine, is irrelevant. As a traditional, one nation, conservative I see similar values to mine in all the major political parties.

Which is why we desperately need a new centrist party to represent those views which I firmly believe is the majority opinion in the UK. The right and left are just the noisest.

Edited by Wisbech Eagle (04 Jan 2021 10.58pm)

Accuses me of 'gross misrepresentations' and then goes on to say the same thing.

Pedantry isn't an excuse.

As for the rest of it, others can judge.

Edited by Stirlingsays (05 Jan 2021 12.13am)

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 05 Jan 21 12.18am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I was there for 12 years. Long enough to build a business and know the place pretty well. Which annoys one of our regular posters a little from time to time.

Being where I am now is absolutely no barrier to holding opinions on any matter. Indeed standing back from things can enable a clearer view.

You didn't even know about its main tourist attractions.

As disingenuous as usual.

 


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Teddy Eagle Flag 05 Jan 21 9.14am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

That I believe that the census ought not to ask questions about a person's skin colour doesn't mean it has an agenda. It means I disagree with the question.


Because skin colour doesn’t matter? I agree. So stop footballers completing a gesture entirely based on skin colour.

 

Eaglecoops Flag CR3 05 Jan 21 10.38am

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Because skin colour doesn’t matter? I agree. So stop footballers completing a gesture entirely based on skin colour.

A very wise answer, that will probably fall on deaf ears.

 

Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 05 Jan 21 12.52pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

No wonder Wisbech is always on here. His dog is bored of him and his self righteousness and blanks him. Accepts a walk and then fecks off as soon as the front door is opened back home.

He is lying by my feet as I write this and will be with me outside when I take down the Christmas lights later. He is only 3 so full of life and good fun.

He has recently learned to throw his ball himself so maybe he is anticipating me slowing down!

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 05 Jan 21 1.00pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Accuses me of 'gross misrepresentations' and then goes on to say the same thing.

Pedantry isn't an excuse.

As for the rest of it, others can judge.

Edited by Stirlingsays (05 Jan 2021 12.13am)

You are condemned by your own words. Read what I wrote again. Carefully!

I didn't say the same thing. You simply assumed I did and then, via your assertion, misrepresented me. You do this constantly. Not just to me but in many of your posts. You seem blissfully unaware of this and, like your soon to depart hero in the USA, are convinced that whatever enters your head must be true.

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 05 Jan 21 1.03pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

You are condemned by your own words. Read what I wrote again. Carefully!

I didn't say the same thing. You simply assumed I did and then, via your assertion, misrepresented me. You do this constantly. Not just to me but in many of your posts. You seem blissfully unaware of this and, like your soon to depart hero in the USA, are convinced that whatever enters your head must be true.

Listen to you....sometimes I think you actually believe your own bs.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 05 Jan 21 1.09pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

You didn't even know about its main tourist attractions.

As disingenuous as usual.

Depends what you regard as tourist attractions! There aren't many that would appear on most bucket lists.

The only tourists I ever encountered in Wisbech were trying to find where Tony Martin lived in Emneth Hungate. Peckover House is nice though. I quite enjoyed a stroll through the gardens. Which took 10 mins!

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 05 Jan 21 1.14pm

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Because skin colour doesn’t matter? I agree. So stop footballers completing a gesture entirely based on skin colour.

The protest has nothing to do with skin colour though does it?

That people assume it does is a large part of this problem.

The protest is about discrimination. In this case because of attitudes about skin colour.

It's the discrimination and the attitudes which are causing the protests.

 


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Teddy Eagle Flag 05 Jan 21 1.18pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

The protest has nothing to do with skin colour though does it?

That people assume it does is a large part of this problem.

The protest is about discrimination. In this case because of attitudes about skin colour.

It's the discrimination and the attitudes which are causing the protests.

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I’ll believe that when the BLM signs and clenched fists disappear.


 

Stirlingsays Flag 05 Jan 21 2.12pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Depends what you regard as tourist attractions! There aren't many that would appear on most bucket lists.

The only tourists I ever encountered in Wisbech were trying to find where Tony Martin lived in Emneth Hungate. Peckover House is nice though. I quite enjoyed a stroll through the gardens. Which took 10 mins!

The guy who supports blm, kneeing and pandering to minorities didn't even know about the Clarkson slavery memorial representing William Wilberforce and Granville Sharp. Both prominent figures in the campaign against the slave trade....standing right there next to the town's high street for 130 years...near Peckover house too.

And to think he even had a business there for 12 years

Yeah, that's about right, shows how genuine it all is.


Edited by Stirlingsays (05 Jan 2021 2.19pm)

 


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eritheagle Flag Erith 13 Jan 21 12.44pm

Take a bow (not a knee) Lyle Taylor of Nottm Forrest!

 

Badger11 Flag Beckenham 13 Jan 21 5.15pm

Can you believe this woman even has supporters

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One more point

madcap_v2 Flag SE25 / Ibiza 13 Jan 21 10.51pm

Originally posted by Badger11

Can you believe this woman even has supporters

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She's a scumbag, clearly.
But what does this have to do with taking a knee?

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 13 Jan 21 11.17pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

The guy who supports blm, kneeing and pandering to minorities didn't even know about the Clarkson slavery memorial representing William Wilberforce and Granville Sharp. Both prominent figures in the campaign against the slave trade....standing right there next to the town's high street for 130 years...near Peckover house too.

And to think he even had a business there for 12 years

Yeah, that's about right, shows how genuine it all is.


Edited by Stirlingsays (05 Jan 2021 2.19pm)

Just noticed this response.

I know the memorial very well. I walked past it every time I went into the town. When I lived there I noticed it and studied the history as a consequence, especially as the major secondary school there is named after Thomas Clarkson and I had a little to do with it.

This was though about tourist attractions and I have never seen a tourist looking at it, let alone making a special trip to see it. It's just there. Most residents pass it by without a second glance.

 


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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 14 Jan 21 12.08am

Originally posted by madcap_v2

She's a scumbag, clearly.
But what does this have to do with taking a knee?

It's more about BLM, her and her supporters making out that the justice system is racist and the judge is racist etc.

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 14 Jan 21 9.51am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

The protest has nothing to do with skin colour though does it?

That people assume it does is a large part of this problem.

The protest is about discrimination. In this case because of attitudes about skin colour.

It's the discrimination and the attitudes which are causing the protests.

What utter babbling bulls***.

Only someone like you could totally contradict yourself in a single post and expect people to accept both statements as true.

There is a word for that.

Your posts are intellectual pollution.

 

Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 14 Jan 21 11.22am

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

What utter babbling bulls***.

Only someone like you could totally contradict yourself in a single post and expect people to accept both statements as true.

There is a word for that.

Your posts are intellectual pollution.

Specsavers are still open.

Maybe you need an appointment!

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 14 Jan 21 11.33am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Specsavers are still open.

Maybe you need an appointment!

If he needs an appointment, you need an operation.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 14 Jan 21 2.02pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

If he needs an appointment, you need an operation.

Are you unable to see his error too, or do you just feel obligated to join in and insult?

By chance I have a Specsavers appointment on Sunday, which is why I was able to assist!

 


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