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cryrst Flag The garden of England 17 Jan 21 6.15pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I have met some of the "separatists". They control the council in Camborne. Mebyon Kernow is the party and all very caring people they are with a very genuine sense of public service, together with a somewhat unrealistic expectation of being a separate region, like Wales.

The national front for the cornish people "piss off, w***er, it's the peoples cornish national front. The nfcp is over there.

 

Teddy Eagle Flag 17 Jan 21 10.31pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I have met some of the "separatists". They control the council in Camborne. Mebyon Kernow is the party and all very caring people they are with a very genuine sense of public service, together with a somewhat unrealistic expectation of being a separate region, like Wales.

So what makes them think Cornish people are so different to everyone else?

 

BlueJay Flag UK 17 Jan 21 11.33pm

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

So what makes them think Cornish people are so different to everyone else?

I guess much like people attributing importance to either genetics (which differ wildly between individuals in groups anyway), history, or a geographical tribe, the answer is, 'because they believe that they are'. Some Cornish people view themselves as somewhat ethnically distinct due to their local history and the specific tribes that inhabited the region hundreds of years back. It seems a little curious to me, but it's not really any different than adopting any other identity I suppose. They are actually a declared national minority .

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Spiderman Flag Horsham 18 Jan 21 8.26am

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

So what makes them think Cornish people are so different to everyone else?

2 heads?

 

Badger11 Flag Beckenham 18 Jan 21 8.28am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I have met some of the "separatists". They control the council in Camborne. Mebyon Kernow is the party and all very caring people they are with a very genuine sense of public service, together with a somewhat unrealistic expectation of being a separate region, like Wales.

I'm surprised they didn't tell you to go back home.

"Cornwall for Cornish people, no interlopers".

 


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Spiderman Flag Horsham 18 Jan 21 8.30am

Originally posted by BlueJay

I guess much like people attributing importance to either genetics (which differ wildly between individuals in groups anyway), history, or a geographical tribe, the answer is, 'because they believe that they are'. Some Cornish people view themselves as somewhat ethnically distinct due to their local history and the specific tribes that inhabited the region hundreds of years back. It seems a little curious to me, but it's not really any different than adopting any other identity I suppose. They are actually a declared national minority .

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So they do have ethnic minorities there
Everywhere has a unique history if people care to look, Northumberland with its Viking history, Eadt Anglia with its Iceni and Roman history are 2 examples, so why do they think they are so different?

 

Eaglecoops Flag CR3 18 Jan 21 9.30am

Originally posted by Spiderman

So they do have ethnic minorities there
Everywhere has a unique history if people care to look, Northumberland with its Viking history, Eadt Anglia with its Iceni and Roman history are 2 examples, so why do they think they are so different?

Because they are at the arse end of England, cut off by Devon to the rest of the UK and no one really gives a damn about the place other than as somewhere to get stuck in a traffic jam during the summer. Oh and the fact that there is a quaint Gaelic language that about 3 of them can speak that they believe entitles them to being classed as a separate country..

 

Badger11 Flag Beckenham 18 Jan 21 9.35am

Originally posted by Eaglecoops

Because they are at the arse end of England, cut off by Devon to the rest of the UK and no one really gives a damn about the place other than as somewhere to get stuck in a traffic jam during the summer. Oh and the fact that there is a quaint Gaelic language that about 3 of them can speak that they believe entitles them to being classed as a separate country..

But they are happy to be funded by the taxpayers from the rest of the country.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 18 Jan 21 10.16am

Originally posted by Spiderman

2 heads?

Nah.

Those were the people were where I lived prior to Cornwall. Plenty of inbreeding there. Not just a nasty slur either!

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 18 Jan 21 10.27am

Originally posted by Badger11

I'm surprised they didn't tell you to go back home.

"Cornwall for Cornish people, no interlopers".

The locally born people here are among the nicest I have found anywhere. They have a sense of history and pride but they are very willing to welcome you and share it. One of the most popular local pastimes are male voice choirs singing unaccompanied shanties and traditional songs. Think "Fisherman Friends". There are many such groups and they welcome everyone. Great to hear. The annual Falmouth sea shanty festival is a celebration of beer and singing in many pubs every night for a week. What's not to like?

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 18 Jan 21 10.30am

Originally posted by Eaglecoops

Because they are at the arse end of England, cut off by Devon to the rest of the UK and no one really gives a damn about the place other than as somewhere to get stuck in a traffic jam during the summer. Oh and the fact that there is a quaint Gaelic language that about 3 of them can speak that they believe entitles them to being classed as a separate country..

The idea that the Cornish are special and somehow different from everyone else is a load of codswallop.
Many Cornish left Cornwall to go to America, Canada, Australia, London or anywhere else where they could use their mining skills or seek alternative employment when their local industry declined. That means that there are probably millions of people of Cornish descent all over the place and I happen to be one of them.
Despite this, the locals don't see you as one of their own unless you were born there apparently.

 

Teddy Eagle Flag 18 Jan 21 10.39am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

The locally born people here are among the nicest I have found anywhere. They have a sense of history and pride but they are very willing to welcome you and share it. One of the most popular local pastimes are male voice choirs singing unaccompanied shanties and traditional songs. Think "Fisherman Friends". There are many such groups and they welcome everyone. Great to hear. The annual Falmouth sea shanty festival is a celebration of beer and singing in many pubs every night for a week. What's not to like?

All of that to be honest. The prospect of sitting in a pub being regaled with tales of comely maids from up Padstow way by some horny handed individuals in cable knit jumpers smelling of mackerel would make me recoil in horror.

 

BlueJay Flag UK 18 Jan 21 10.45am

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

The idea that the Cornish are special and somehow different from everyone else is a load of codswallop.
Many Cornish left Cornwall to go to America, Canada, Australia, London or anywhere else where they could use their mining skills or seek alternative employment when their local industry declined. That means that there are probably millions of people of Cornish descent all over the place and I happen to be one of them.
Despite this, the locals don't see you as one of their own unless you were born there apparently.

They will never take the knee for the non-Cornish. You can have a day pass due to your Cornish descent but then must 'go back'.

 

Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 18 Jan 21 10.50am

Originally posted by Spiderman

So they do have ethnic minorities there
Everywhere has a unique history if people care to look, Northumberland with its Viking history, Eadt Anglia with its Iceni and Roman history are 2 examples, so why do they think they are so different?

There is a long history involved. Before modern transport, Cornwall was much more isolated than even today. It had its own language, a different legal system and many local traditions. Its people, being Celts, felt closer to the Welsh than the English. During the mining boom years there was a lot of coal shipped here from South Wales to power the steam engines with the ore going the other way.

Then, of course, there was the Battle of Deptford Bridge in 1497, an event which probably doesn't get mentioned in history lessons in most of England but does down here. It left some scars.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 18 Jan 21 10.54am

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

All of that to be honest. The prospect of sitting in a pub being regaled with tales of comely maids from up Padstow way by some horny handed individuals in cable knit jumpers smelling of mackerel would make me recoil in horror.

Each to their own. There's enough who do to fill the pubs quite comfortably. Beards and muddy boots are almost obligatory here by the way.

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 18 Jan 21 10.55am

Originally posted by BlueJay

They will never take the knee for the non-Cornish. You can have a day pass due to your Cornish descent but then must 'go back'.

I like the Cornish. They are very friendly in my experience.
I understand why they want to preserve their local way of life but any talk of genetic separatism is just not realistic. There are probably more Cornish genes outside Cornwall than in it.

Britain as a whole is losing its cultural identity and Cornwall's will probably survive longer than most.

 

Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 18 Jan 21 11.03am

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

The idea that the Cornish are special and somehow different from everyone else is a load of codswallop.
Many Cornish left Cornwall to go to America, Canada, Australia, London or anywhere else where they could use their mining skills or seek alternative employment when their local industry declined. That means that there are probably millions of people of Cornish descent all over the place and I happen to be one of them.
Despite this, the locals don't see you as one of their own unless you were born there apparently.

There was undoubtedly a huge exodus when mining downturned and Cornish miners were in demand the world over. I believe there is somewhere in Argentina where you can buy a pasty today.

People who can trace their roots to here are always welcomed back. I had some American guests a couple of years back who traced their family to a village on the Lizard, went there and enquired at the pub whether anyone with their surname still lived there. Within a very short time they found a whole bunch of new relatives and were busy working out the links. They had a hell of a party.

You should try it.

 


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Spiderman Flag Horsham 18 Jan 21 11.45am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Nah.

Those were the people were where I lived prior to Cornwall. Plenty of inbreeding there. Not just a nasty slur either!

I think it is a nasty slur actually

 

Spiderman Flag Horsham 18 Jan 21 11.50am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

There is a long history involved. Before modern transport, Cornwall was much more isolated than even today. It had its own language, a different legal system and many local traditions. Its people, being Celts, felt closer to the Welsh than the English. During the mining boom years there was a lot of coal shipped here from South Wales to power the steam engines with the ore going the other way.

Then, of course, there was the Battle of Deptford Bridge in 1497, an event which probably doesn't get mentioned in history lessons in most of England but does down here. It left some scars.

I didn’t doubt there was a long history but, as I stated, many other areas have as long, if not longer history, so Cornwall is no different to them

 

mezzer Flag Main Stand, Block F, Row 20 seat 1... 18 Jan 21 12.14pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

There was undoubtedly a huge exodus when mining downturned and Cornish miners were in demand the world over. I believe there is somewhere in Argentina where you can buy a pasty today.

People who can trace their roots to here are always welcomed back. I had some American guests a couple of years back who traced their family to a village on the Lizard, went there and enquired at the pub whether anyone with their surname still lived there. Within a very short time they found a whole bunch of new relatives and were busy working out the links. They had a hell of a party.

You should try it.

Aha, I thought it was a case of "he doth protest too much". All this denial of conspiracy theories and you've revealed that you live in the land of the Lizard people all along.

 


Living down here does have some advantages. At least you can see them cry.

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