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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I have met some of the "separatists". They control the council in Camborne. Mebyon Kernow is the party and all very caring people they are with a very genuine sense of public service, together with a somewhat unrealistic expectation of being a separate region, like Wales. The national front for the cornish people "piss off, w***er, it's the peoples cornish national front. The nfcp is over there.
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I have met some of the "separatists". They control the council in Camborne. Mebyon Kernow is the party and all very caring people they are with a very genuine sense of public service, together with a somewhat unrealistic expectation of being a separate region, like Wales. So what makes them think Cornish people are so different to everyone else?
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
So what makes them think Cornish people are so different to everyone else? I guess much like people attributing importance to either genetics (which differ wildly between individuals in groups anyway), history, or a geographical tribe, the answer is, 'because they believe that they are'. Some Cornish people view themselves as somewhat ethnically distinct due to their local history and the specific tribes that inhabited the region hundreds of years back. It seems a little curious to me, but it's not really any different than adopting any other identity I suppose. They are actually a declared national minority
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
So what makes them think Cornish people are so different to everyone else? 2 heads?
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I have met some of the "separatists". They control the council in Camborne. Mebyon Kernow is the party and all very caring people they are with a very genuine sense of public service, together with a somewhat unrealistic expectation of being a separate region, like Wales. I'm surprised they didn't tell you to go back home. "Cornwall for Cornish people, no interlopers".
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Originally posted by BlueJay
I guess much like people attributing importance to either genetics (which differ wildly between individuals in groups anyway), history, or a geographical tribe, the answer is, 'because they believe that they are'. Some Cornish people view themselves as somewhat ethnically distinct due to their local history and the specific tribes that inhabited the region hundreds of years back. It seems a little curious to me, but it's not really any different than adopting any other identity I suppose. They are actually a declared national minority So they do have ethnic minorities there
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Originally posted by Spiderman
So they do have ethnic minorities there Because they are at the arse end of England, cut off by Devon to the rest of the UK and no one really gives a damn about the place other than as somewhere to get stuck in a traffic jam during the summer. Oh and the fact that there is a quaint Gaelic language that about 3 of them can speak that they believe entitles them to being classed as a separate country..
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Originally posted by Eaglecoops
Because they are at the arse end of England, cut off by Devon to the rest of the UK and no one really gives a damn about the place other than as somewhere to get stuck in a traffic jam during the summer. Oh and the fact that there is a quaint Gaelic language that about 3 of them can speak that they believe entitles them to being classed as a separate country.. But they are happy to be funded by the taxpayers from the rest of the country.
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Originally posted by Spiderman
2 heads? Nah. Those were the people were where I lived prior to Cornwall. Plenty of inbreeding there. Not just a nasty slur either!
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Originally posted by Badger11
I'm surprised they didn't tell you to go back home. "Cornwall for Cornish people, no interlopers". The locally born people here are among the nicest I have found anywhere. They have a sense of history and pride but they are very willing to welcome you and share it. One of the most popular local pastimes are male voice choirs singing unaccompanied shanties and traditional songs. Think "Fisherman Friends". There are many such groups and they welcome everyone. Great to hear. The annual Falmouth sea shanty festival is a celebration of beer and singing in many pubs every night for a week. What's not to like?
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Originally posted by Eaglecoops
Because they are at the arse end of England, cut off by Devon to the rest of the UK and no one really gives a damn about the place other than as somewhere to get stuck in a traffic jam during the summer. Oh and the fact that there is a quaint Gaelic language that about 3 of them can speak that they believe entitles them to being classed as a separate country.. The idea that the Cornish are special and somehow different from everyone else is a load of codswallop.
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
The locally born people here are among the nicest I have found anywhere. They have a sense of history and pride but they are very willing to welcome you and share it. One of the most popular local pastimes are male voice choirs singing unaccompanied shanties and traditional songs. Think "Fisherman Friends". There are many such groups and they welcome everyone. Great to hear. The annual Falmouth sea shanty festival is a celebration of beer and singing in many pubs every night for a week. What's not to like? All of that to be honest. The prospect of sitting in a pub being regaled with tales of comely maids from up Padstow way by some horny handed individuals in cable knit jumpers smelling of mackerel would make me recoil in horror.
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
The idea that the Cornish are special and somehow different from everyone else is a load of codswallop. They will never take the knee for the non-Cornish. You can have a day pass due to your Cornish descent but then must 'go back'.
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Originally posted by Spiderman
So they do have ethnic minorities there There is a long history involved. Before modern transport, Cornwall was much more isolated than even today. It had its own language, a different legal system and many local traditions. Its people, being Celts, felt closer to the Welsh than the English. During the mining boom years there was a lot of coal shipped here from South Wales to power the steam engines with the ore going the other way. Then, of course, there was the Battle of Deptford Bridge in 1497, an event which probably doesn't get mentioned in history lessons in most of England but does down here. It left some scars.
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
All of that to be honest. The prospect of sitting in a pub being regaled with tales of comely maids from up Padstow way by some horny handed individuals in cable knit jumpers smelling of mackerel would make me recoil in horror. Each to their own. There's enough who do to fill the pubs quite comfortably. Beards and muddy boots are almost obligatory here by the way.
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Originally posted by BlueJay
They will never take the knee for the non-Cornish. You can have a day pass due to your Cornish descent but then must 'go back'. I like the Cornish. They are very friendly in my experience. Britain as a whole is losing its cultural identity and Cornwall's will probably survive longer than most.
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
The idea that the Cornish are special and somehow different from everyone else is a load of codswallop. There was undoubtedly a huge exodus when mining downturned and Cornish miners were in demand the world over. I believe there is somewhere in Argentina where you can buy a pasty today. People who can trace their roots to here are always welcomed back. I had some American guests a couple of years back who traced their family to a village on the Lizard, went there and enquired at the pub whether anyone with their surname still lived there. Within a very short time they found a whole bunch of new relatives and were busy working out the links. They had a hell of a party. You should try it.
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Nah. Those were the people were where I lived prior to Cornwall. Plenty of inbreeding there. Not just a nasty slur either! I think it is a nasty slur actually
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
There is a long history involved. Before modern transport, Cornwall was much more isolated than even today. It had its own language, a different legal system and many local traditions. Its people, being Celts, felt closer to the Welsh than the English. During the mining boom years there was a lot of coal shipped here from South Wales to power the steam engines with the ore going the other way. Then, of course, there was the Battle of Deptford Bridge in 1497, an event which probably doesn't get mentioned in history lessons in most of England but does down here. It left some scars. I didn’t doubt there was a long history but, as I stated, many other areas have as long, if not longer history, so Cornwall is no different to them
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
There was undoubtedly a huge exodus when mining downturned and Cornish miners were in demand the world over. I believe there is somewhere in Argentina where you can buy a pasty today. People who can trace their roots to here are always welcomed back. I had some American guests a couple of years back who traced their family to a village on the Lizard, went there and enquired at the pub whether anyone with their surname still lived there. Within a very short time they found a whole bunch of new relatives and were busy working out the links. They had a hell of a party. You should try it. Aha, I thought it was a case of "he doth protest too much". All this denial of conspiracy theories and you've revealed that you live in the land of the Lizard people all along.
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