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Originally posted by steeleye20

She added: “These people are British. They are part of us; they helped to build Britain and we are all the stronger for their contributions.”.

Mrs May, admitting that the Windrush people are British.

You do make me laugh steeleye

 


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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 23 Apr 18 1.57pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Despite what you say Mrs May we are still on this one....

The Home Office is to be given sweeping data protection exemptions that will prevent anyone seeking information about their immigration status in future, campaigners for the Windrush generation are warning.

Challenging the Home Office’s notoriously poor decision-making in immigration cases will become far more difficult and result in miscarriages of justice, a wide range of civil rights groups, the Joint Council for the Welfare of Immigrants (JCWI), lawyers and political opponents allege.

The legislation will also lower data protection standards for the Home Office, according to campaigners, so that it no longer needs to handle data transparently, fairly and lawfully. It would not prevent the destruction of vital records such as Windrush-generation landing cards, for example.

 

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A growing number of cases of Home Office mistreatment of non-Caribbean Commonwealth-born citizens are emerging, indicating that the problem is likely to spread beyond the Windrush group. Immigration charities and MPs reported that numerous new cases had been reported this week of individuals from countries from India, Kenya and Cyprus to Canada.

Looks like Windrush could be the tip of an iceberg.......

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 25 Apr 18 12.07pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

A growing number of cases of Home Office mistreatment of non-Caribbean Commonwealth-born citizens are emerging, indicating that the problem is likely to spread beyond the Windrush group. Immigration charities and MPs reported that numerous new cases had been reported this week of individuals from countries from India, Kenya and Cyprus to Canada.

Looks like Windrush could be the tip of an iceberg.......

What a surprise.

No one would have expected loads of opportunist spongers to come out of the wood work.

 

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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

What a surprise.

No one would have expected loads of opportunist spongers to come out of the wood work.

Just had a thought. Remember those child migrants who could do with a shave? I wonder if we are now going to have the opposite, young men claiming they are pensioners and part of the Windrush generation?

 


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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 25 Apr 18 12.19pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

What a surprise.

No one would have expected loads of opportunist spongers to come out of the wood work.

No, when you retire you are of no benefit to the UK so they hound you and try to get you out.

That's general, even if your Canadian for example.

I am amazed people think that is new.

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 25 Apr 18 12.42pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

No, when you retire you are of no benefit to the UK so they hound you and try to get you out.

That's general, even if your Canadian for example.

I am amazed people think that is new.

They will be hounding a lot of people out in the coming years then. 250k new ones are arriving every year.
As with all of these people, I'm afraid my self interest comes first.

 

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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 25 Apr 18 12.44pm Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

when you retire you are of no benefit to the UK

Less benefit perhaps but pensioners still spend money

 

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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Less benefit perhaps but pensioners still spend money

Yep, plus the input they put into families both on the cultural, pastoral and educational side. Decent people reinvest into their own families.....Less decent people contribute to families breaking up and causing problems for the rest of us (though that is a very simplistic summary of an often complex situation).

In a general sense older people have a very beneficial impact within society without even mentioning the contribution they made when younger.

 


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Originally posted by steeleye20

No, when you retire you are of no benefit to the UK so they hound you and try to get you out.

That's general, even if your Canadian for example.

I am amazed people think that is new.

Genuinely confused by your position on this. You seem to be trying to beat up Rudd and May for this, despite it being cocked up when May was 15 years old, and many years of Labour government since then to correct it if they wished.

Do you not believe illegal immigrants should be deported?

Do you believe the child dependents of Windrush who arrived without their own passport should get citizenship (I totally agree with that)

Do you think the rules should be relaxed for ALL migrants?

 

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Originally posted by npn

Genuinely confused by your position on this. You seem to be trying to beat up Rudd and May for this, despite it being cocked up when May was 15 years old, and many years of Labour government since then to correct it if they wished.

Do you not believe illegal immigrants should be deported?

Do you believe the child dependents of Windrush who arrived without their own passport should get citizenship (I totally agree with that)

Do you think the rules should be relaxed for ALL migrants?

Do you mean like a general amnesty yes I support that.

Hopefully the tories have lost the non-white vote this time, would swing the next election I think.

We have only seen the tip of this.

 

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Originally posted by steeleye20

Do you mean like a general amnesty yes I support that.

Hopefully the tories have lost the non-white vote this time, would swing the next election I think.

We have only seen the tip of this.

So we no longer deport illegal immigrants? For ever or just for a period? Any qualifying criteria, or do we basically just open the doors to anyone who fancies it?

 

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