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Originally posted by HesHereHesThere
Too much pressure...really? We're talking abut two games no-one really gives a monkey's about behind closed doors and people are worried about these poor little poppets...they're U23's for christ sake they're men not 15-16 year olds....the world's gone mad, we'll have Harry Kane taking corners next! Well try this then. They ain’t good enough yet. Maybe some could man up a bit. Makes no difference mate. The coaching staff know them day in day out . If their inclusion was going to help them or the team they would be in. It’s not done to annoy you.
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Originally posted by Ian-VI
Totally agree with him, in particular because of the low quality of the youth players involved (Sam Woods failed even at Hamilton...). Edited by Ian-VI (20 Jul 2020 1.57pm) And that is it in one sentence. All our expert fans seem to think that we have a bench full of Messi's. These young lads (bar maybe Mitchell) will not be making it in the top division. There is one reason why they are on the bench BECAUSE we have NO more players to sit on the bench. Play Meyer Play another bloody tune because None of them are good enough and if they were they would play. We even start games with less subs than we are allowed, that says it all about our youth team. Edited by EddieMac (20 Jul 2020 2.53pm)
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Originally posted by SwordFish
Maybe , just maybe , these youngsters arnt good enough and our manager who watches them day after day may know a bit more about them than you do? Unless you go to all youth games and have experience of coaching? Still using that lovely patronising tone, I see - nice chap. Maybe they aren’t good enough.. know the easiest way to find out? Play them. If they bomb the next couple of games and never appear in the first team again.. what have we lost? Mitchell looked fine in the cameo the other day, been linked with a move to Spurs after they were impressed with him at youth level. Similarly Pierrick has looked fine in cameos. Why are they on the bench if they’re so far from being good enough? They didn’t know, and presumably didn’t think, AWB was good enough, and that turned out alright didn’t it.
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
Still using that lovely patronising tone, I see - nice chap. Maybe they aren’t good enough.. know the easiest way to find out? Play them. If they bomb the next couple of games and never appear in the first team again.. what have we lost? Mitchell looked fine in the cameo the other day, been linked with a move to Spurs after they were impressed with him at youth level. Similarly Pierrick has looked fine in cameos. Why are they on the bench if they’re so far from being good enough? They didn’t know, and presumably didn’t think, AWB was good enough, and that turned out alright didn’t it. because we have no more players to sit on the bench.
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Originally posted by Willo
When the team has lost 6 games in succession and further defeats could mean ending the season on the back of 8 losses, I would respectfully suggest that the remaining fixtures are not meaningless, especially as league placements affect the money from the PL. In terms of "Youngsters", they have to be of sufficient standing, besides, games against teams towards the top of the table when one's team has been struggling, are not ideal games to 'blood' younger players.Placing them in the spotlight in these circumstances can be counter productive. Edited by Willo (20 Jul 2020 2.11pm) They’re as meaningless as games get at this level. You’ve spent the last two weeks arguing that the lack of motivation/necessity to get a result is one of the reasons we shouldn’t get on Roy’s back for the bad form, yet now insist there is so much on the line that we have to play our strongest team.
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Originally posted by Willo
When the team has lost 6 games in succession and further defeats could mean ending the season on the back of 8 losses, I would respectfully suggest that the remaining fixtures are not meaningless, especially as league placements affect the money from the PL. In terms of "Youngsters", they have to be of sufficient standing, besides, games against teams towards the top of the table when one's team has been struggling, are not ideal games to 'blood' younger players.Placing them in the spotlight in these circumstances can be counter productive. Edited by Willo (20 Jul 2020 2.11pm) When the team has lost 6 games in succession and further defeats could mean ending the season on the back of 8 losses, I would respectfully suggest that sticking with the same formula that ended in those losses is a mugs game. Change something. please! Dear god do something different.
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Originally posted by CrazyBadger
When the team has lost 6 games in succession and further defeats could mean ending the season on the back of 8 losses, I would respectfully suggest that sticking with the same formula that ended in those losses is a mugs game. Change something. please! Dear god do something different. With f*ckin bells on.
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Originally posted by Ian-VI
You didn't need to write this whole thing to prove us you haven't got the wildest idea of how a club (even at amateur level) is run, what it involves, the man management etc. When was the last time you played any sport? Have you ever tried pulling a team together at the end of the season at an amature level when there's nothing to play for? Even if you can get all your best players out it's most likely that they will be more concerend about the beers at the end of the game than the game itself. Better to take the players from the 2nds and give them a chance to impress. They'll be dead keen, and likely to give the rest of the players a lift. Human nature being what it is, the same is true at all levels, hence why you always get wild scorelines at the end of the season. Have you ever been asked to sub and not been brought on. That really pisses players off. Try motivating a player who turns up to training every week knowing that no matter what they do, they'll never get a game. It's the same at all levels. There's nothing more important to a players development than game time. You can't recreate it in train. I guess you think players are happy just to make up the numbers on the training pitch? Turning up on match day just to sit on the bench and watch the players who got picked ahead of them lose, knowing that they won't come on. Roy Hodgson is a laughing stock amongst fans across England. He's managed to do a better job than FDB, the worst manager the Premiership has ever had. Winning league titles in Sweden in the 1980's in no justification to be in charge of a Premiership Club in 2020.
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Originally posted by CrazyBadger
When the team has lost 6 games in succession and further defeats could mean ending the season on the back of 8 losses, I would respectfully suggest that sticking with the same formula that ended in those losses is a mugs game. Change something. please! Dear god do something different. There is a reason why there is no changes made. Our bench is like something from a Sunday league.
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Originally posted by EddieMac
There is a reason why there is no changes made. Our bench is like something from a Sunday league. Take our last bench. 9 players. 5 of them have played internationally, including for England, Germany, and the Netherlands.
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Originally posted by HesHereHesThere
This is fooking hilarious. I don't think we have a bunch of messi's in the youth setup and I don't think Roy's not playing the yoof just to annoy me! However we've had seven seasons in the PL and around £1bn quid..and we all seem to agree that the first team is in a s*** state and now people are saying the academy players are s*** as well. What message does that send out to the young lads trying to make it at the club if they can't even get a go in games that don't matter. What young talent will want to come to us if they don't see young players given an opportunity, its bulls*** to be honest. Parish needs to sort this s*** out as we'll be down next season the way its going at the mo.
I guess around half of us suspect we are going down every season but have been proved wrong so far.
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
I guess around half of us suspect we are going down every season but have been proved wrong so far. Odds on it being aimed towards Sakho at the far post?
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Originally posted by jeeagles
Odds on it being aimed towards Sakho at the far post? I told my kids teh other day that we were once really good and corners and free kicks...they just laughed at me and told me to behave myself!
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Originally posted by southnorwoodhill
The AWB saga puts the "they're not good enough" argument to bed. Like a duck to water - he took his chance and never looked back. In fact I wonder what was going through the minds of his ex team mates as he lined up for Manchester United against them? Look what is possible if you are given a chance. Agreed
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Last played in 2016 Would be curious about you.
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Originally posted by big fat cyprus boy
And with Roy in charge why would any good young players we have want to stay knowing that they have no chance of game time.
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