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baldeagle73 Leamington spa 31 Jan 21 6.43pm
This post has been merged from a topic called 'Black Lives Matter Banner At Selhurst' by becky It’s virtue signalling at its worst in the billion pound industry that is the prem league no lives matter only money BLM will be replaced with another worthy cause soon enough walking down the holmesdale road to see the palace aces!

baldeagle73

Leamington spa 31 Jan 21 6.43pm

This post has been merged from a topic called 'Black Lives Matter Banner At Selhurst' by becky

It’s virtue signalling at its worst in the billion pound industry that is the prem league no lives matter only money BLM will be replaced with another worthy cause soon enough

walking down the holmesdale road to see the palace aces!

ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 31 Jan 21 6.44pm
Thanks, Becky. Red and Blue Army!

ASCPFC

Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 31 Jan 21 6.44pm

Thanks, Becky.

Red and Blue Army!

Nubes London 31 Jan 21 6.56pm
Originally posted by baldeagle73 This post has been merged from a topic called 'Black Lives Matter Banner At Selhurst' by becky It’s virtue signalling at its worst in the billion pound industry that is the prem league no lives matter only money BLM will be replaced with another worthy cause soon enough I very much doubt it will be replaced with another worthy cause soon enough. Judging by the amount of racism aimed at prem footballers this week and the debate that has surrounded these hate crimes and a person being arrested over the weekend for racist bile against Sawyers from West Brom.

Nubes

London 31 Jan 21 6.56pm

Originally posted by baldeagle73

This post has been merged from a topic called 'Black Lives Matter Banner At Selhurst' by becky

It’s virtue signalling at its worst in the billion pound industry that is the prem league no lives matter only money BLM will be replaced with another worthy cause soon enough

I very much doubt it will be replaced with another worthy cause soon enough.

Judging by the amount of racism aimed at prem footballers this week and the debate that has surrounded these hate crimes and a person being arrested over the weekend for racist bile against Sawyers from West Brom.

baldeagle73 Leamington spa 31 Jan 21 7.00pm
The premier League doesn't care about black lives white lives only money people are deluded if they think massive corporations care about them walking down the holmesdale road to see the palace aces!

baldeagle73

Leamington spa 31 Jan 21 7.00pm

The premier League doesn't care about black lives white lives only money people are deluded if they think massive corporations care about them

walking down the holmesdale road to see the palace aces!

Eaglecoops CR3 31 Jan 21 7.00pm
I have honestly got to the stage wheee I couldn’t give a flying f about BLM, who is racist, who isn’t racist, who stabs and shoots who on the streets, who wants a statue, who doesn’t want a statue, who wants to blame everyone else for their own problems, who couldn’t give a damn either way. Why? Because no one seems to give a damn about me so why should I about them. It’s time to look after number 1 I reckon. Screw the lot of ‘em.

Eaglecoops

CR3 31 Jan 21 7.00pm

I have honestly got to the stage wheee I couldn’t give a flying f about BLM, who is racist, who isn’t racist, who stabs and shoots who on the streets, who wants a statue, who doesn’t want a statue, who wants to blame everyone else for their own problems, who couldn’t give a damn either way. Why? Because no one seems to give a damn about me so why should I about them.

It’s time to look after number 1 I reckon. Screw the lot of ‘em.

Croydon-Trucker 31 Jan 21 7.47pm
Originally posted by Nubes This post has been merged from a topic called 'Black Lives Matter Banner At Selhurst' by becky People who write and like to say this - totally miss the point and tend to either ‘consciously or subconsciously’ feel uncomfortable with the notion of Black Lives Matters being vocalised or presented visually to them. The when people feel they are being viewed as racist if the talk about racism says more about the individual than the points they are putting across. It’s been very interesting and fascinating observing posters comments across the many months on Hol as a black male related to the topic as whole. There has been a lot of ignorance without individuals even realising their ignorance or narrow mindedness. Not a racist bone in my body mate so you can save your sanctimonious lecture for someone else. I just believe everyone black white brown male female young old middle-aged fluid gender gay and all the others , should be treated the same without fear of reprisal or insult .

Croydon-Trucker

31 Jan 21 7.47pm

Originally posted by Nubes

This post has been merged from a topic called 'Black Lives Matter Banner At Selhurst' by becky

People who write and like to say this - totally miss the point and tend to either ‘consciously or subconsciously’ feel uncomfortable with the notion of Black Lives Matters being vocalised or presented visually to them.

The when people feel they are being viewed as racist if the talk about racism says more about the individual than the points they are putting across.

It’s been very interesting and fascinating observing posters comments across the many months on Hol as a black male related to the topic as whole.

There has been a lot of ignorance without individuals even realising their ignorance or narrow mindedness.

Not a racist bone in my body mate so you can save your sanctimonious lecture for someone else. I just believe everyone black white brown male female young old middle-aged fluid gender gay and all the others , should be treated the same without fear of reprisal or insult .

Stirlingsays 31 Jan 21 7.53pm
Originally posted by Eaglecoops I have honestly got to the stage wheee I couldn’t give a flying f about BLM, who is racist, who isn’t racist, who stabs and shoots who on the streets, who wants a statue, who doesn’t want a statue, who wants to blame everyone else for their own problems, who couldn’t give a damn either way. Why? Because no one seems to give a damn about me so why should I about them. It’s time to look after number 1 I reckon. Screw the lot of ‘em. There are a couple of groups who do, you just won't hear about them in the mainstream media. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

31 Jan 21 7.53pm

Originally posted by Eaglecoops

I have honestly got to the stage wheee I couldn’t give a flying f about BLM, who is racist, who isn’t racist, who stabs and shoots who on the streets, who wants a statue, who doesn’t want a statue, who wants to blame everyone else for their own problems, who couldn’t give a damn either way. Why? Because no one seems to give a damn about me so why should I about them.

It’s time to look after number 1 I reckon. Screw the lot of ‘em.

There are a couple of groups who do, you just won't hear about them in the mainstream media.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Mapletree Croydon 31 Jan 21 8.28pm
Originally posted by Croydon-Trucker Not a racist bone in my body mate so you can save your sanctimonious lecture for someone else. I just believe everyone black white brown male female young old middle-aged fluid gender gay and all the others , should be treated the same without fear of reprisal or insult . Missing the point You don't need a White Lives Matter or All Lives Matter philosophy as in general people don't get racially abused for being white Trying to drown out the voice of BLM has become a sport. So many conservatives saying it's really not a problem, don't know what all the fuss is about blah blah blah. White silence. Pernicious. What you blind yourself to you don't see. Ask a youngish black man about their experiences, especially from poorer backgrounds.

Mapletree

Croydon 31 Jan 21 8.28pm

Originally posted by Croydon-Trucker

Missing the point

You don't need a White Lives Matter or All Lives Matter philosophy as in general people don't get racially abused for being white

Trying to drown out the voice of BLM has become a sport. So many conservatives saying it's really not a problem, don't know what all the fuss is about blah blah blah.

White silence. Pernicious. What you blind yourself to you don't see. Ask a youngish black man about their experiences, especially from poorer backgrounds.

Mapletree Croydon 31 Jan 21 8.32pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays There are a couple of groups who do, you just won't hear about them in the mainstream media. This is true. BLM didn't set out to cure all ills relating to people of colour, only to try to raise awareness of continuing injustices Try Lives Not Knives for example.

Mapletree

Croydon 31 Jan 21 8.32pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

There are a couple of groups who do, you just won't hear about them in the mainstream media.

This is true.

BLM didn't set out to cure all ills relating to people of colour, only to try to raise awareness of continuing injustices

Try Lives Not Knives for example.

BlueJay UK 31 Jan 21 8.36pm
Originally posted by Croydon-Trucker Not a racist bone in my body mate so you can save your sanctimonious lecture for someone else. I just believe everyone black white brown male female young old middle-aged fluid gender gay and all the others , should be treated the same without fear of reprisal or insult . I'm sure this is true of you personally, but at the same time he offers a valid perspective too, and I'm eager to counter the repeated 'lets move along now' type posts than inevitably accompany anyone non white saying anything on here. The 'berate a black man'. One thing I have noticed about some 'all lives matter' types is that the lives of elderly haven't mattered to them during this pandemic either. So the very idea put forward is revealed as a diversion to escape being concerned about an issue or group. Of course the same could be said about some factions of BLM. That there is an interest in pushing one imagined 'sides' concerns over another, which at its extremes is just another angle to be racist against others. But there are fair arguments and points outside of that regarding injustice or imbalance that get attacked, while those hanging on the words of groups - noteworthy for various reasons - set around other racial identities get a free pass. Edited by BlueJay (31 Jan 2021 8.47pm)

BlueJay

UK 31 Jan 21 8.36pm

Originally posted by Croydon-Trucker

I'm sure this is true of you personally, but at the same time he offers a valid perspective too, and I'm eager to counter the repeated 'lets move along now' type posts than inevitably accompany anyone non white saying anything on here. The 'berate a black man'.

One thing I have noticed about some 'all lives matter' types is that the lives of elderly haven't mattered to them during this pandemic either. So the very idea put forward is revealed as a diversion to escape being concerned about an issue or group.

Of course the same could be said about some factions of BLM. That there is an interest in pushing one imagined 'sides' concerns over another, which at its extremes is just another angle to be racist against others. But there are fair arguments and points outside of that regarding injustice or imbalance that get attacked, while those hanging on the words of groups - noteworthy for various reasons - set around other racial identities get a free pass.

Edited by BlueJay (31 Jan 2021 8.47pm)

Stirlingsays 31 Jan 21 10.14pm
Originally posted by Mapletree Missing the point You don't need a White Lives Matter or All Lives Matter philosophy as in general people don't get racially abused for being white Trying to drown out the voice of BLM has become a sport. So many conservatives saying it's really not a problem, don't know what all the fuss is about blah blah blah. White silence. Pernicious. What you blind yourself to you don't see. Ask a youngish black man about their experiences, especially from poorer backgrounds. You contradict yourself within the same post. White people are racially abused all the time. You just don't want to acknowledge it. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

31 Jan 21 10.14pm

Originally posted by Mapletree

Missing the point

You don't need a White Lives Matter or All Lives Matter philosophy as in general people don't get racially abused for being white

Trying to drown out the voice of BLM has become a sport. So many conservatives saying it's really not a problem, don't know what all the fuss is about blah blah blah.

White silence. Pernicious. What you blind yourself to you don't see. Ask a youngish black man about their experiences, especially from poorer backgrounds.

You contradict yourself within the same post.

White people are racially abused all the time. You just don't want to acknowledge it.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Mapletree Croydon 31 Jan 21 10.23pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays You contradict yourself within the same post. White people are racially abused all the time. You just don't want to acknowledge it. I see you didn’t read the logic text book I recommended. They may be the subject of individual hatred but not endemic belittling by a far larger majority I know you are still sore from a nasty experience as a youngster and I genuinely feel for you on that. It doesn’t change the fact that relatively speaking, on average, it is much tougher to be black than white.

Mapletree

Croydon 31 Jan 21 10.23pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

You contradict yourself within the same post.

White people are racially abused all the time. You just don't want to acknowledge it.

I see you didn’t read the logic text book I recommended.

They may be the subject of individual hatred but not endemic belittling by a far larger majority

I know you are still sore from a nasty experience as a youngster and I genuinely feel for you on that. It doesn’t change the fact that relatively speaking, on average, it is much tougher to be black than white.

Stirlingsays 31 Jan 21 10.37pm
Originally posted by Mapletree I see you didn’t read the logic text book I recommended. They may be the subject of individual hatred but not endemic belittling by a far larger majority I know you are still sore from a nasty experience as a youngster and I genuinely feel for you on that. It doesn’t change the fact that relatively speaking, on average, it is much tougher to be black than white. Your first sentence is your standard lame response. Your second sentence is another contradiction. As for the rest, well a lot could be said about either but what's the point. I'd rather state that when it comes to whites being racially abused you were inaccurate. Edited by Stirlingsays (31 Jan 2021 10.42pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

31 Jan 21 10.37pm

Originally posted by Mapletree

I see you didn’t read the logic text book I recommended.

They may be the subject of individual hatred but not endemic belittling by a far larger majority

Your first sentence is your standard lame response.

Your second sentence is another contradiction.

As for the rest, well a lot could be said about either but what's the point.

I'd rather state that when it comes to whites being racially abused you were inaccurate.

Edited by Stirlingsays (31 Jan 2021 10.42pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Cpfc1861 01 Feb 21 12.35am
Originally posted by Mapletree Missing the point You don't need a White Lives Matter or All Lives Matter philosophy as in general people don't get racially abused for being white Trying to drown out the voice of BLM has become a sport. So many conservatives saying it's really not a problem, don't know what all the fuss is about blah blah blah. White silence. Pernicious. What you blind yourself to you don't see. Ask a youngish black man about their experiences, especially from poorer backgrounds. Do you know many black people from poorer backgrounds or in fact anybody from poorer backgrounds do you currently live on a council estate. The truth is poor people who act like c*s get a hard time from old bill or people whether they are white or black poor people who don't act like c*s fly under the radar like everybody else.

Cpfc1861

01 Feb 21 12.35am

Originally posted by Mapletree

Missing the point

You don't need a White Lives Matter or All Lives Matter philosophy as in general people don't get racially abused for being white

Trying to drown out the voice of BLM has become a sport. So many conservatives saying it's really not a problem, don't know what all the fuss is about blah blah blah.

White silence. Pernicious. What you blind yourself to you don't see. Ask a youngish black man about their experiences, especially from poorer backgrounds.

Do you know many black people from poorer backgrounds or in fact anybody from poorer backgrounds do you currently live on a council estate. The truth is poor people who act like c***s get a hard time from old bill or people whether they are white or black poor people who don't act like c***s fly under the radar like everybody else.

Cpfc1861 01 Feb 21 12.38am
Originally posted by Mapletree I see you didn’t read the logic text book I recommended. They may be the subject of individual hatred but not endemic belittling by a far larger majority I know you are still sore from a nasty experience as a youngster and I genuinely feel for you on that. It doesn’t change the fact that relatively speaking, on average, it is much tougher to be black than white. Why is it tougher to be black then white im sure the black people in London suffer more then the whites in Glasgow croxteth Norris Green Boston hartlepool Jaywick Tilbury ECT economically speaking all of the places with lowest life expectancy least jobs poorest are majority white places.

Cpfc1861

01 Feb 21 12.38am

Originally posted by Mapletree

I see you didn’t read the logic text book I recommended.

They may be the subject of individual hatred but not endemic belittling by a far larger majority

Why is it tougher to be black then white im sure the black people in London suffer more then the whites in Glasgow croxteth Norris Green Boston hartlepool Jaywick Tilbury ECT economically speaking all of the places with lowest life expectancy least jobs poorest are majority white places.

dreamwaverider London 01 Feb 21 5.18am
To all BAME on here. Strongly advise you get the jab. Can’t see what there is to lose. They’re bound to want proof before they let each one of us back in to Selhurst. I’d have it just for that.

dreamwaverider

London 01 Feb 21 5.18am

To all BAME on here. Strongly advise you get the jab. Can’t see what there is to lose. They’re bound to want proof before they let each one of us back in to Selhurst. I’d have it just for that.

Eaglecoops CR3 01 Feb 21 9.01am
Originally posted by dreamwaverider To all BAME on here. Strongly advise you get the jab. Can’t see what there is to lose. They’re bound to want proof before they let each one of us back in to Selhurst. I’d have it just for that. On the basis they haven’t been able to prove it stops transmission I’m not sure how there can be any justification for preventing access to the vaccinated over the unvaccinated. I’m not saying you shouldn’t have the vaccine I just don’t see why there should be one group favoured over another. If what you say happens the fanatics won’t be allowed back in for a couple of years and all we’ll have is Dads Army banging the drum.

Eaglecoops

CR3 01 Feb 21 9.01am

Originally posted by dreamwaverider

To all BAME on here. Strongly advise you get the jab. Can’t see what there is to lose. They’re bound to want proof before they let each one of us back in to Selhurst. I’d have it just for that.

On the basis they haven’t been able to prove it stops transmission I’m not sure how there can be any justification for preventing access to the vaccinated over the unvaccinated.

I’m not saying you shouldn’t have the vaccine I just don’t see why there should be one group favoured over another.

If what you say happens the fanatics won’t be allowed back in for a couple of years and all we’ll have is Dads Army banging the drum.

Nicholas91 The Democratic Republic of Kent 01 Feb 21 10.09am
Originally posted by Eaglecoops On the basis they haven’t been able to prove it stops transmission I’m not sure how there can be any justification for preventing access to the vaccinated over the unvaccinated. I’m not saying you shouldn’t have the vaccine I just don’t see why there should be one group favoured over another. If what you say happens the fanatics won’t be allowed back in for a couple of years and all we’ll have is Dads Army banging the drum. They can't play football and bang drums at the same time! Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

Nicholas91

The Democratic Republic of Kent 01 Feb 21 10.09am

Originally posted by Eaglecoops

On the basis they haven’t been able to prove it stops transmission I’m not sure how there can be any justification for preventing access to the vaccinated over the unvaccinated.

I’m not saying you shouldn’t have the vaccine I just don’t see why there should be one group favoured over another.

If what you say happens the fanatics won’t be allowed back in for a couple of years and all we’ll have is Dads Army banging the drum.

They can't play football and bang drums at the same time!

Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

madcap_v2 SE25 / Ibiza 02 Feb 21 4.49pm
Originally posted by dreamwaverider To all BAME on here. Strongly advise you get the jab. Can’t see what there is to lose. They’re bound to want proof before they let each one of us back in to Selhurst. I’d have it just for that. I'm probably going to get the jab when offered to me, but why should I be a guinea pig for this vaccine? La la la your mum

madcap_v2

SE25 / Ibiza 02 Feb 21 4.49pm

Originally posted by dreamwaverider

To all BAME on here. Strongly advise you get the jab. Can’t see what there is to lose. They’re bound to want proof before they let each one of us back in to Selhurst. I’d have it just for that.

I'm probably going to get the jab when offered to me, but why should I be a guinea pig for this vaccine?

La la la your mum

Stirlingsays 02 Feb 21 4.56pm
Originally posted by madcap_v2 I'm probably going to get the jab when offered to me, but why should I be a guinea pig for this vaccine? Well, you're not being compelled to take the vaccine. ....Yet. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

02 Feb 21 4.56pm

Originally posted by madcap_v2

I'm probably going to get the jab when offered to me, but why should I be a guinea pig for this vaccine?

Well, you're not being compelled to take the vaccine.

....Yet.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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