Once again it has nothing at all to do with this particular government or indeed any government. It will be something that most of us expect so will be introduced somehow, whether by government or commercially. It's likely to be an internationally accepted standard that permits travel to, and entry into, other countries. Indeed there are already at least two competing schemes being set up. You will be free to refuse. That's entirely your decision but a refusal would bring consequences. Nothing unusual about that. Every decision has consequences.

Just as smokers are required to smoke outside of pubs I can envisage the unvaccinated being required to do the same. In another area of course!

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

The media is saying this and selective groups doctors/nurses are not allowed to say anything.

Again do your research on ICU in UK these have many patients anyway people have forgotten every year these same people moan about they are full because of flu sufferers.

If it was so bad why was none of the extra emergency hospitals used and again look at the stats how many times do I have to keep repeating it respiratory infection rates they should be through the roof yet they are not.

It needs to be said I was part of the problem for decades in the system and enough is enough now lots of people from all different fields are coming out telling it straight as it is a corrupt system.

I have no problem giving credit to proper research but 99% of it regarding covid-19 is BS it's the same with human nutrition.

Can you quote the part I said go f**k off NHS staff and diagnose everything yourself.

Again show the evidence as I stated to other people of covid-19 being the causation of these peoples deaths you cant so stop making false claims (if some one stated its my opinion that due to peoples other health issues plus the introduction of covid-19 it increased their odds which could of resulted in their deaths that is acceptable but people are not they are claiming all those recorded deaths are caused by covid-19)

I never said vaccines are waste off time I stated this current vaccine is not required unless in a set group also they have not property trial/tested it so it could be useless again they have not done proper controlled trials for a proper period of time or in the numbers required.

A lot of word twisting from you people in here who do not like the answers another one never stated covid-19 doesn't exist.

What does it matter if people are infected they recover this is the same with cold/flu every single year the big difference being is this whole campaign to scare people so you plant those seeds in peoples brains they get a sore throat start to panic this can lead to more health issues you then take into account as well the way they have locked some people away this again causes more health issues add them all together is terrible and you wonder why people end up in hospital or suicide.

I am qualified in this field and so is my wife so hush up what qualifications do you have a Wednesday afternoon online one in being a pr**k.

You clearly didn't look at the information I posted regarding some of the places I worked or qualifications it's very clear to see how I started and the filed I moved into.

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Further, here's all the data you'll ever need. I think this is the third time I've had to post this here.

If you want to debate whether COVID has been the main accelerator causing the massive spikes as shown, please tell us all what actually, in your 'qualified' opinion, is the cause.

If you want to contest that the data is even real (to add I am not for one minute saying it's 100% accurate, but I'm certainly not going along with 0%) then this conversation ends.

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Edited by SW19 CPFC (11 Mar 2021 10.39pm)

Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.

Sure - although how significant a role that plays in the overall case count is up for debate, as I would expect PCR tests to be used in each case to determine COVID. Of course it also depends if the data is recorded pre test or post test. You’re also not advised to go to hospital if you have symptoms, you’re advised to take a test and isolate. So unless everyone with symptoms has been heading to hospital I doubt it would be that big a factor.

Also note that the stats/graphs shared are not for all patients, Only ICU / Critical care. The beds won’t only be occupied by COVID sufferers of course but that’s not the point of the graphs. The excess is. It’s an important difference.

Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.

Having both at the same time has been said to be low probability, but I’m sure some of this will come out in the wash. Also if most cases were both, having both is worse, so it further validates the excess anyway.

I’d be surprised if most people that had symptoms or returned a positive test went to hospital ‘just in case’. I’ll have to query that one offline

The stats are not 100% accurate. And yes to some extent you’re right re using ICU as a perfect map to flu, but the point of sharing those is to focus on the extreme excess. And if that isn’t down to COVID, someone needs to come up with a credible alternative explanation.

Edited by SW19 CPFC (12 Mar 2021 12.39am)

Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.

Really..

How about £37 BILLION on the Track and Trace app - that is £100 MILLION being spent every single DAY.

Contracts not put out to tender - the pub landlord of Hancocks local awarded a multi million pound contract despite having no experience. Tory donors getting multi million pound contracts for companies that had been set up only a couple of weeks previously again with no experience of procuring PPE, legitimate UK companies with experience ignored and not allowed to tender.

This is one of the most expensive projects in world history - ever - for reference the Mars probe that landed recently cost less than £3 Billion.

Germany Track and Trace cost estimated at £30 MILLION and Ireland’s less than £5 MILLION.