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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 23 Oct 17 6.17pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by hedgehog50

He could always plead diminished responsibility.

He has a sense of humour though...so while he's a bit of a remoaner obsessive and wrong on this he's not as bad a sport as some.

 


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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

A recognition that the youth are, in general, less wise, due to lack of life experience.....most vote left don't you know.

And as a late forties man what is your excuse?

 


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View tome's Profile tome Flag Inner Tantalus Time. 23 Oct 17 9.08pm Send a Private Message to tome Add tome as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Not in your case then, ok. I personally don't regard that attitude as being good for any nation but that's your view.

So do you see yourself as stateless? Not owning any allegiance to a country?

I don't regard myself as stateless, I have dual nationality and broadly speaking share a cultural familiarity with both countries.

In general, my outlook and intention is to make systems work better for everyone, continuous improvement. But I am less inclined to see the world as zero-sum; I accept that power is part of how the world works but I think greater co-operation is more likely to create benefits for all than more competition.

So 'allegiance' is a loaded construct, and hugely contested - as you'll know from the political expressions from either side, there is much contention about whose version of a country is the aim.

 


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View tome's Profile tome Flag Inner Tantalus Time. 23 Oct 17 9.13pm Send a Private Message to tome Add tome as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

A recognition that the youth are, in general, less wise, due to lack of life experience.....most vote left don't you know.

In general, I reckon the craggier you get, the more money you have to lose, and the more set in your ways you become.

It's surely happening to me, it's hard to stay free of assumptions and pretty exhausting. Habits of mind tend to lend to stereotypes.

 


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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 23 Oct 17 9.37pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Interesting.

Because what you are really saying is that our colour orientated politics allowed a potentially worse situation for the country and it's inhabitants.

The simplistic notion of apartied bad, black rule good was typical of the sort of remote interference that has been a recuring feature of British foreign policy and one that has produced one mess after another.

Fortunately for Zimbabwean citizens they are not subject to that British foreign policy at all.

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 23 Oct 17 9.50pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

Fortunately for Zimbabwean citizens they are not subject to that British foreign policy at all.

Since it is all going so well, perhaps you should consider moving there.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (23 Oct 2017 9.52pm)

 

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Originally posted by tome

In general, I reckon the craggier you get, the more money you have to lose, and the more set in your ways you become.

It's surely happening to me, it's hard to stay free of assumptions and pretty exhausting. Habits of mind tend to lend to stereotypes.

A fool and their money is easily parted. As you go through life, it's not the fact that you acquire stereotypes and assumptions that is perhaps a problem...that's inevitable...it's how accurate they are in practice.

 


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 23 Oct 17 10.07pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Since it is all going so well, perhaps you should consider moving there.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (23 Oct 2017 9.52pm)

Bingo!

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 23 Oct 17 10.14pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by tome

I don't regard myself as stateless, I have dual nationality and broadly speaking share a cultural familiarity with both countries.

In general, my outlook and intention is to make systems work better for everyone, continuous improvement. But I am less inclined to see the world as zero-sum; I accept that power is part of how the world works but I think greater co-operation is more likely to create benefits for all than more competition.

So 'allegiance' is a loaded construct, and hugely contested - as you'll know from the political expressions from either side, there is much contention about whose version of a country is the aim.

You very much sound like someone from a generation who never had to fight for anything. All these are ivory tower concepts to me. I was brought up in a family where nearly all the males I knew served in the military.

Soft fingers are only enabled by previous scarred ones.

Notions of being above it all and not having 'allegiance'? Yeah right...Let's hope that the bell never tolls and you never have to revisit these ideas.


Edited by Stirlingsays (23 Oct 2017 11.01pm)

 


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View Harry Beever's Profile Harry Beever Flag Newbury 23 Oct 17 10.18pm Send a Private Message to Harry Beever Add Harry Beever as a friend

For a second I thought this was an ironic post about Joel Ward.

 

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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 24 Oct 17 10.28am

Originally posted by steeleye20

In Zimbabwe the black majority lived in subjugation to the white minority.

They are free of that and that is what matters most, to them.


Being subjugation by a black minority is no improvement. You either liberate all the people, or you're the next tyrant.

 


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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 24 Oct 17 10.59am Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

Being subjugation by a black minority is no improvement. You either liberate all the people, or you're the next tyrant.


Your Boys Own sanitised world of our colonialist past.

If it is a third world dictatorship its better in their eyes than being ruled by whites.


 

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