I'd go with that - no representation without taxation.

A stairway to Heaven and a Highway to Hell give some indication of expected traffic numbers

Imagine having 12% of the EU's budget.
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Would say a long extension option which will take us into the EU elections.

No deal and remaining in during the EU elections are probably what the EU want least. Especially with elections looming. Leave campaigners would be wise to highlight the benefits of this to leave voters.

Can't see May's deal getting through without a major concession like dropping the backstop.

Can't see revoke happening at least without a second referendum. Can't guarantee a second referendum would have a different outcome. Can guarantee a second referendum will be even more divisive than the first.

Edited by jeeagles (02 Apr 2019 12.23pm)

Here's a little reality check

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Didn't you want a second referendum?

And long after that didn’t labour want us to join the euro?

COYP

Steeleye posting incorrect facts! Surely not!!

She did, and she is sticking to her guns so far on that one.

She also said that without any shadow of a doubt we would definitely leave the EU in March. She also said there was no way she was calling a snap election, right before calling one.

She is basically trying but she is failing, 3 years on and we are further away from brexit now than the day after the vote.

If by some miracle her deal is passed, this will all be over and that version of Brexit will be delivered.

If not, she knows that no deal is not acceptable to big business, to the majority in the house, to most of the EU, so it’s extremely unlikely that we leave with no deal.

Once we reach that point she has to justify an extension by promising some kind of democratic event. If polling supports it she may call an election but that didn’t exactly work out last time, and another hung parliament solves little anyway.

It’s the same as in the branches of government here, no majority across senate and house and it’s much harder to get anything done.

So what then, there would only be one option left then.

Trump lost. Badly. Hahahahahahaha.

I agree with a lot of this Matov never the less I suspect they will still find a way to steal it from us.

One more point

The results of the June 23rd vote were based on a series of campaign "promises" that may or may not be true. The chief one for me is the point made by Boris Johnson that there was an instant savings of £300 million plus to be had if Brexit happened. That has been disputed and is now considered by many to be false based on the Article 50 negotiations. Recent polling suggests that many of the "swing" areas of England where the previous referendum was decided have had a change of heart. That also may or may not be so, polling is not the exact science it has been sold to be. Most of my political experience, which dates back to 1964, tells me the first vote was not decisive. 52-53% in a national vote with wide disparities amongst the regions tells me the nation was then and still is divided fairly closely on the issue. I have quite conflicting views and would probably decide which way I would vote at the last minute. Brussels is a vast unelected decision making power with very few checks or balances. It would appear to me that the one elected European body, the Parliament, is little more than advisory. The theory of economic convergence amongst over two dozen sovereign countries has not worked. Certainly the EU has not been the best it could be. However, I believe for this world to survive national borders and regional sovereignty must yield towards a world government. Are we there yet? Certainly not. When written in the mid 1960s, "Star Trek," where such a society is theorized, took place 300 hundred years (middle 22nd Century) in the future after a cataclysmic war that ended only when the discovery of a radically new means of propulsion which makes inter-stellar exploration possible. That isn't even close to happening. Therefore, reform of the EU is an absolute must if the UK can continue within it. David Cameron tried to achieve such reform and was rebuffed. Therefore, when the referendum occurred, the British electorate had to weigh whether Britain had the influence necessary to achieve the reform required. The evaluation then was small majority thought not. That may have changed since but that's also highly questionable. My own view, for what it's worth, is that economically Britain would be better off remaining but politically its influence in how the EU is run must be felt if continued membership is to have any meaning. Therefore, color me a reluctant Remainer with a healthy dose of scepticism.

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