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 Maine Eagle  USA 02 Apr 19 4.44pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
I guess it's easy to take this position when it doesn't affect you. Strange how you spend so much time promoting a second referendum in a country where you no longer live. Puzzling. As I said a while back, I would like to move back to Europe at some point. This massively affects me in that regard, so you are completely and utterly wrong there. Dont presume to know someone's life situation because you disagree with them on a chat forum, Hrolf.
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| Maine Eagle USA 02 Apr 19 4.50pm |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
I think that the main reasons why people voted to leave the EU were a mixture of getting rid of freedom of movement of people and becoming masters of our own destiny. How many of the many plans discussed incorporate those two aspects? Any of them? May's plan doesnt have free movement of people after the transition period. A customs union is not the same as single market, or common market participation. So the customs union plan by definition does not mean automatic free movement of people. Single market of course does mean free movement. Masters of destiny, is a bit harder to quantify. The irony of all this is that given how our parliamentary processes are totally unable to cope with the last 3 years, and we have the biggest shambles in Westminster that any of us have ever seen.......you really want UK politicians MORE power??
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 Hrolf The Ganger 02 Apr 19 4.50pm |
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Originally posted by Maine Eagle
Hillary won the popular vote. So the people did want my brand, sorry, you are completely and utterly wrong. Might want to read on how the electoral college works. Anyway, Hrolf, I am just as British as you so my opinion counts just the same as yours. In fact it counts just the same as the residents of the inner city slums which you dont like, they are just as British as both of us, the ones born here/naturalized at least. I know your idea of a way forward is a totalitarian regime where people who dont agree with you are denied a vote, but that is how the khmer rouge works, not the UK parliament. Hrolf the supreme overlord has a nice ring to it, but this is a democracy not a dictatorship. I know you would like to alter the rules so you win. Your sort always do. Fact is, Trump is President and Leave won. I know it hurts and I know that your kind would do anything including impeaching a President any way you could to get your own way. You talk about dictatorship. You are advocating something very close. A world where people who are living in a delusion of moral and intellectual superiority always get their own way, any way they can. And I'm not your mate.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 02 Apr 19 4.54pm |
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Originally posted by Maine Eagle
As I said a while back, I would like to move back to Europe at some point. This massively affects me in that regard, so you are completely and utterly wrong there. Dont presume to know someone's life situation because you disagree with them on a chat forum, Hrolf. France perhaps? That will still be in Europe.
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| Maine Eagle USA 02 Apr 19 4.58pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
I know you would like to alter the rules so you win. Your sort always do. Fact is, Trump is President and Leave won. I know it hurts and I know that your kind would do anything including impeaching a President any way you could to get your own way. You talk about dictatorship. You are advocating something very close. A world where people who are living in a delusion of moral and intellectual superiority always get their own way, any way they can. And I'm not your mate. Oooooooooh....handbags, Hrolf!! Not my mate, ok sunshine, that stings but I accept your decision.
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| Maine Eagle USA 02 Apr 19 4.59pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
France perhaps? That will still be in Europe. France is in the EU. Its easier to move to EU countries when you are a citizen of an EU country.
Trump lost. Badly. Hahahahahahaha. |
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| Hrolf The Ganger 02 Apr 19 5.03pm |
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Originally posted by Maine Eagle
Oooooooooh....handbags, Hrolf!! Not my mate, ok sunshine, that stings but I accept your decision. You will have to apply like everyone else. I only accept friends using a points system.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 02 Apr 19 5.06pm |
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Italy and Spain are doing well.
COYP |
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| Maine Eagle USA 02 Apr 19 5.07pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
You will have to apply like everyone else. I only accept friends using a points system. I genuinely shudder at what that might actually look like!!!
Trump lost. Badly. Hahahahahahaha. |
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| Hrolf The Ganger 02 Apr 19 5.18pm |
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Originally posted by Maine Eagle
I genuinely shudder at what that might actually look like!!! Minus!
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cpfc_chap  koh samui 02 Apr 19 5.43pm |
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Originally posted by Maine Eagle
France is in the EU. Its easier to move to EU countries when you are a citizen of an EU country. Go via Germany claim you're a refugee no issues then!! Funny enough I've just moved back to UK as now we are leaving! Last time I was here it was to vote out!!
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| Stirlingsays 02 Apr 19 5.54pm |
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Originally posted by Maine Eagle
Oooooooooh....handbags, Hrolf!! Not my mate, ok sunshine, that stings but I accept your decision.
'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen) |
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| Maine Eagle USA 02 Apr 19 6.02pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Hrolf's decision is binary and is immediately implementable. Unlike some others. But we are really flogging a dead horse now, Stirlingsays. A cat just got let into number 10 about 20 seconds ago, this could be the deadlock breaker.
Trump lost. Badly. Hahahahahahaha. |
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| Maine Eagle USA 02 Apr 19 6.23pm |
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Originally posted by Matov
Utter and despicable cowardice of the highest order. May has not only effectively destroyed Brexit, she is allowing Corbyn into number 10. Maybe this is now the time to just accept that the UK is finished. Done and dusted. We voted to Leave. We should have left. Instead this. I thought my disgust with our political class could not grow anymore intense but now...beyond vomit inducing. The ERG & DUP need to crash this Government. Fight a GE on no deal v Capitulation. I can understand your frustration. She basically just ruled out there ever being a no deal exit, and is going to try to pass her WA based on labour votes. Weird times. I agree with her on no deal though, it cannot be allowed. So her solution to months on end of parliamentary indecision, is.............more talking in parliament. She wants to hold hands with Corbyn and force her WA through with him standing beside her. Can that actually happen in real terms? If that doesnt work, its more indicative votes I think she said. More of the same.
Trump lost. Badly. Hahahahahahaha. |
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| steeleye20 Croydon 02 Apr 19 6.26pm |
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Originally posted by Maine Eagle
I can understand your frustration. She basically just ruled out there ever being a no deal exit, and is going to try to pass her WA based on labour votes. Weird times. I agree with her on no deal though, it cannot be allowed. So her solution to months on end of parliamentary indecision, is.............more talking in parliament. She wants to hold hands with Corbyn and force her WA through with him standing beside her. Can that actually happen in real terms? If that doesnt work, its more indicative votes I think she said. More of the same. Very dubious she has nowhere else to go?
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 02 Apr 19 6.27pm |
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Originally posted by Matov
Utter and despicable cowardice of the highest order. May has not only effectively destroyed Brexit, she is allowing Corbyn into number 10. Maybe this is now the time to just accept that the UK is finished. Done and dusted. We voted to Leave. We should have left. Instead this. I thought my disgust with our political class could not grow anymore intense but now...beyond vomit inducing. The ERG & DUP need to crash this Government. Fight a GE on no deal v Capitulation. Matov I share your abhorence of the stance taken by Theresa May.
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| Maine Eagle USA 02 Apr 19 6.29pm |
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Originally posted by Matov
The Conservative Party have to force a GE. It is as simple as that. May is destroying the country and if the DUP and ERG swallow this, then they will both be the biggest losers. The ERG and brexiteers will be up in arms about this. If a customs union comes in that is something the DUP can perhaps get on board with. Who knows what those ERG folks and hardlines will do now though.
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