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 Badger11  Beckenham 03 Apr 19 10.09am |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Are you psychic? No but he probably seen the result I heard it was agreed last week. Edited by Badger11 (03 Apr 2019 10.09am)
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 03 Apr 19 10.12am |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Labour will spank the tories at the polls, the voters were going that way last time. Remain will stuff leave in a referendum too, people are sick of it. It is clinging to the wreckage to continue. The Polling (Over 50 polls) has the Conservatives ahead but of course this is a fluid situation and as was witnessed at the last General Election and Referendum, the polls did not reflect the final outcome.The fact that Labour does not have a significant lead speaks volumes about Corbyn and his Marxist policies. Edited by Willo (03 Apr 2019 10.16am)
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| Badger11 Beckenham 03 Apr 19 10.13am |
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Originally posted by topcat
Shouldn't we see what May and Corbyn come up with before dismissing it? I suspect that this is just a way for May to blame Labour for Brexit but I'm happy to be proved wrong. There is also no reason to believe that Europe will agree even if they do come up with a compromise. Remember that Brexit may mean Brexit but not necessarily the version that you wanted. Fair point but right now I am not in a forgiving or understand mind. I have no fixed view on Brexit beyond one simple thing that the UK controls its own affairs and makes it owns laws. If we can stay in a customs union and single market but still have control over immigration and be allowed to do own own trade deals etc. then fine but this is not on the table from the EU. As you say wait and see but I don't think it will be Brexit.
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| Midlands Eagle 03 Apr 19 10.14am |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Remain will stuff leave in a referendum too, people are sick of it. I don't agree. People are sick of the faffing about and indecision but not necessarily the actual fact of leaving Europe
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| steeleye20 Croydon 03 Apr 19 10.24am |
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'Better cabinets in IKEA' 7 hours for what? At least they cannot be doing any more damage while in custody.
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| topcat Holmesdale / Surbiton 03 Apr 19 10.25am |
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Originally posted by Badger11
Fair point but right now I am not in a forgiving or understand mind. I have no fixed view on Brexit beyond one simple thing that the UK controls its own affairs and makes it owns laws. If we can stay in a customs union and single market but still have control over immigration and be allowed to do own own trade deals etc. then fine but this is not on the table from the EU. As you say wait and see but I don't think it will be Brexit. I think control over immigration and our own law is the main reason for people voting leave and any agreement must include this. I really don't think most of the public cares about trade deals.
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cpfc_chap  koh samui 03 Apr 19 10.31am |
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The original lies!! All parties involved
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Teddy Eagle  03 Apr 19 11.12am |
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Originally posted by ex hibitionist
democracy is only a means to an end - it's why you'll never get a referendum on hanging, there's too many idiots out there, and 52% of them want to hang themselves - the customs union is not a betrayal it's a lifeline, and if it is a betrayal I couldn't give a toss because it's infinitely preferable to economic meltdown, and 90% of the finance and business community agree - Brexit is boll*cks, pure and simple, this whole thing is a catastrophe conceived and delivered by the Conservative Party - if Tommy Robinson, Nigel Farage, Rees Mogg, Fox, Bojo, Duncan Smith, Baker, the little ERG twerp they all take the p*ss out of get angry that's a good sign, clueless w*nkers the lot of them - their core support ironically is the white trash they're out to screw - f*ck 'em all, well done Theresa, I'm willing to compromise and accept a soft Brexit though I have to hold my nose, not because I'm unpatriotic or undemocratic, just don't fancy economic meltdown any time soon, or maybe I'm just a bleeding heart liberal either brainwashed by 'project fear' or one of its spokesmen.
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 Hrolf The Ganger 03 Apr 19 11.16am |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Labour will spank the tories at the polls, the voters were going that way last time. Remain will stuff leave in a referendum too, people are sick of it. It is clinging to the wreckage to continue. Not as sick as we are of reading your endless twaddle. The fact that Labour are not miles ahead in popularity after two terms of the most useless Tory government ever speaks volumes about how little they trust Jeremy Corbyn and his incompetent shadow cabinet.
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| Stirlingsays 03 Apr 19 12.03pm |
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Originally posted by Willo
Despite being an ardent and active supporter of the Conservative Party, I am not someone who gives wholehearted support for every aspect concerning the party,I am quite willing to criticise the leader.There are some I have known over the years who will simply not find any fault at all and will openly express their support come-what-may. I recall that Kenneth Clarke, believing he was off-air saying that Theresa May was a bloody awkward woman and that he had worked with Margaret Thatcher - I understand what he means ! May is awful and Kenneth Clarke is little better. They are only Tories economically.
'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen) |
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| Badger11 Beckenham 03 Apr 19 12.12pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
'Better cabinets in IKEA' 7 hours for what? At least they cannot be doing any more damage while in custody.
LOL I bet they're not as wooden.
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| Spiderman Horsham 03 Apr 19 12.59pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Fromage not Farage. My favourite brie cheese actually is tesco's finest from Cornwall. Just shows how patriotic remainers are. But I thought you were a remainer. From many of your posts on here I do not consider you to be very patriotic but that is only my opinion
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| Spiderman Horsham 03 Apr 19 1.02pm |
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Originally posted by Maine Eagle
May's plan doesnt have free movement of people after the transition period. A customs union is not the same as single market, or common market participation. So the customs union plan by definition does not mean automatic free movement of people. Single market of course does mean free movement. Masters of destiny, is a bit harder to quantify. The irony of all this is that given how our parliamentary processes are totally unable to cope with the last 3 years, and we have the biggest shambles in Westminster that any of us have ever seen.......you really want UK politicians MORE power?? Don't bet on it! Cant go into details but watch this space.
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| Spiderman Horsham 03 Apr 19 1.11pm |
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Originally posted by Willo
Theresa May has said that she will go after we leave the EU and before the next round of talks. The end is nigh and I and many of my Tory chums can look forward to a Brexiteer leader of the party. I have already been contacted by local Brexiteers who are hyperventilating at the announcement. Edited by Willo (02 Apr 2019 6.43pm) Hope so Willo but my concern is that there are so many Remainers with influence in the Tory party that this may not be cut and dried.
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| Spiderman Horsham 03 Apr 19 1.15pm |
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Originally posted by dollardays
If anything I'd say that Corbyn is less pro EU than May, it's just that his party isn't. It's a weird time, and if anything May should've either adopted a no compromise hard Brexit position to begin with, or brought all parties into the fold to thrash something out. Correct but he has fallen in line with his party. As for May she has always been a remainer and I think the way she appears to have sabotaged Brexit proves it.
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| Spiderman Horsham 03 Apr 19 1.18pm |
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Originally posted by Alex1991
It's such a ridiculous statement for her to make. People voted for a myriad of different reasons, and there is absolutely no deal that she can scrape together that will keep everybody happy. The liars of the leave campaign are entirely to blame for this continued farce. So no-one on the Remain side lied?? Remainers from both sides of the House are totally responsible as they could not bring themselves to accept the result of the referendum
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| Spiderman Horsham 03 Apr 19 1.20pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Charles Hawtrey = Jacob Rees Mogg Michael Gove
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| Spiderman Horsham 03 Apr 19 1.21pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Why does anybody want years more of this? Swallow your pride. Revoke and remain is the only sensible option. Yawn
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| Midlands Eagle 03 Apr 19 1.23pm |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
I wonder if "the economy will collapse as soon as the referendum is over if leave wins" rings any bells. Not one of George Osborne's finest pronouncements
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| Spiderman Horsham 03 Apr 19 1.32pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Labour will spank the tories at the polls, the voters were going that way last time. Remain will stuff leave in a referendum too, people are sick of it. It is clinging to the wreckage to continue. I presume this is only your opinion and you have no facts to back this up
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