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m/k mick milton keynes 15 Jan 23 7.06pm
I cannot believe some of the nonsense about Steve Parish on here, best chairman we have ever had, best owners as well, stop this nonsense we are SUPPORTERS stop the moaning and get behind the team, as most do

m/k mick

milton keynes 15 Jan 23 7.06pm

I cannot believe some of the nonsense about Steve Parish on here, best chairman we have ever had, best owners as well, stop this nonsense we are SUPPORTERS stop the moaning and get behind the team, as most do

Swindy Bromley 15 Jan 23 8.02pm
Am happy to when he stops being complacent & addresses strengthening the team, just over 2 weeks to do something but not holding breath. Yes, grateful to CPFC 2010 etc etc but there's a lot of water gone under the bridge since then. There comes a point where you stop trying to compete on the cheap in this league because you go backwards. The championship is a b****** of a league to get out off with all its failed Premiership teams and is arguably more difficult to get out of than stay in the Premiership. We don't appear to be anything like a club with 10 years' standing in the Premiership and it appears that we don't have a pot for the proverbial & that is down to one man it appears. The complacency around this club is worrying. I would love him to prove me wrong but cannot be confident given recent windows (forget 2021 freak summer spending as that was funded by outside sources & not Parish and the American investors who don't appear to want to).

Swindy

Bromley 15 Jan 23 8.02pm

Am happy to when he stops being complacent & addresses strengthening the team, just over 2 weeks to do something but not holding breath.
Yes, grateful to CPFC 2010 etc etc but there's a lot of water gone under the bridge since then.
There comes a point where you stop trying to compete on the cheap in this league because you go backwards.
The championship is a b****** of a league to get out off with all its failed Premiership teams and is arguably more difficult to get out of than stay in the Premiership.
We don't appear to be anything like a club with 10 years' standing in the Premiership and it appears that we don't have a pot for the proverbial & that is down to one man it appears.
The complacency around this club is worrying.
I would love him to prove me wrong but cannot be confident given recent windows (forget 2021 freak summer spending as that was funded by outside sources & not Parish and the American investors who don't appear to want to).

StrangerThing Brisbane 16 Jan 23 4.27am
So Vieira's record. Season 1 finished 12th. Our 4th best result since our return and our 3rd best points total. We transitioned away from the premierships oldest squad. We recorded the second best goals for and for the first time had a positive goal difference. Before Chelsea we were two points better off this year than last. (not sure the stat after Chelsea). We lost two midfielders in the summer and had another out with injury completely, and sold a striker - something like 70 appearances and 25 subs. We replaced them with one player who was first team ready. In 5 seasons Hodgson bettered 12th once (11th) and bettered the points total once 49 v 48.

StrangerThing

Brisbane 16 Jan 23 4.27am

So Vieira's record.

Season 1 finished 12th. Our 4th best result since our return and our 3rd best points total.

We transitioned away from the premierships oldest squad.

We recorded the second best goals for and for the first time had a positive goal difference.

Before Chelsea we were two points better off this year than last. (not sure the stat after Chelsea).

We lost two midfielders in the summer and had another out with injury completely, and sold a striker - something like 70 appearances and 25 subs. We replaced them with one player who was first team ready.

In 5 seasons Hodgson bettered 12th once (11th) and bettered the points total once 49 v 48.

doombear Too far from Selhurst Park 16 Jan 23 7.44am
Originally posted by StrangerThing So Vieira's record. Season 1 finished 12th. Our 4th best result since our return and our 3rd best points total. We transitioned away from the premierships oldest squad. We recorded the second best goals for and for the first time had a positive goal difference. Before Chelsea we were two points better off this year than last. (not sure the stat after Chelsea). We lost two midfielders in the summer and had another out with injury completely, and sold a striker - something like 70 appearances and 25 subs. We replaced them with one player who was first team ready. In 5 seasons Hodgson bettered 12th once (11th) and bettered the points total once 49 v 48. Sorry to be pedantic but it's 4 seasons, but I'm not disagreeing with the point you seem to be making.

doombear

Too far from Selhurst Park 16 Jan 23 7.44am

Originally posted by StrangerThing

So Vieira's record.

Season 1 finished 12th. Our 4th best result since our return and our 3rd best points total.

We transitioned away from the premierships oldest squad.

We recorded the second best goals for and for the first time had a positive goal difference.

Before Chelsea we were two points better off this year than last. (not sure the stat after Chelsea).

In 5 seasons Hodgson bettered 12th once (11th) and bettered the points total once 49 v 48.

Sorry to be pedantic but it's 4 seasons, but I'm not disagreeing with the point you seem to be making.

MrRobbo Chaldon 16 Jan 23 8.38am
Originally posted by PatrickA To make an assessment of Vieira’s view of the squad you would have to conclude he’s less than satisfied in certain areas. The evidence? He plays Zaha or Ayew down the middle in preference to Edouard and Mateta and this is despite the fact that it’s not Zaha’s preferred position. He uses Schlupp in central midfield in preference to authentic central midfield players in Hughes and Luka. He has not really used summer purchases of Richards, Johnstone and Ebiowei. This is not to debate the merits or the validity of his choices. It’s more an indication that he’s not convinced by our options in midfield and up front and doesn’t feel the summer purchases are good enough at present or at least not better than the alternatives already in the squad. I wonder if Vieira’s aligned with the club’s transfer policy on player selection, or whether he’s resigned to the constraints imposed and recognises that his job is limited to managing the players the club impose on him. I agree with a lot of this. And whilst I cant understand some of decisions, Pat must either thing these guys are better, or as you said is making a point. I thought both JPM and OE added something when they came on. Even yesterday, brining on Tomkins over Richards just feels a little odd. And sure its a tight game and Tompkins has tonnes of PL experience. But if I was Richards, I'd be wondering why I was signed if I was rated behind a creaking, injury prone Tomkins.

MrRobbo

Chaldon 16 Jan 23 8.38am

Originally posted by PatrickA

To make an assessment of Vieira’s view of the squad you would have to conclude he’s less than satisfied in certain areas. The evidence?
He plays Zaha or Ayew down the middle in preference to Edouard and Mateta and this is despite the fact that it’s not Zaha’s preferred position.
He uses Schlupp in central midfield in preference to authentic central midfield players in Hughes and Luka.
He has not really used summer purchases of Richards, Johnstone and Ebiowei.

This is not to debate the merits or the validity of his choices.
It’s more an indication that he’s not convinced by our options in midfield and up front and doesn’t feel the summer purchases are good enough at present or at least not better than the alternatives already in the squad.
I wonder if Vieira’s aligned with the club’s transfer policy on player selection, or whether he’s resigned to the constraints imposed and recognises that his job is limited to managing the players the club impose on him.

I agree with a lot of this. And whilst I cant understand some of decisions, Pat must either thing these guys are better, or as you said is making a point. I thought both JPM and OE added something when they came on.

Even yesterday, brining on Tomkins over Richards just feels a little odd. And sure its a tight game and Tompkins has tonnes of PL experience. But if I was Richards, I'd be wondering why I was signed if I was rated behind a creaking, injury prone Tomkins.

MrRobbo Chaldon 16 Jan 23 8.45am
Originally posted by StrangerThing So Vieira's record. Season 1 finished 12th. Our 4th best result since our return and our 3rd best points total. We transitioned away from the premierships oldest squad. We recorded the second best goals for and for the first time had a positive goal difference. Before Chelsea we were two points better off this year than last. (not sure the stat after Chelsea). We lost two midfielders in the summer and had another out with injury completely, and sold a striker - something like 70 appearances and 25 subs. We replaced them with one player who was first team ready. In 5 seasons Hodgson bettered 12th once (11th) and bettered the points total once 49 v 48. Always good to get a bit of perspective. I suspect the immense frustration is because we know we are better then we are currently playing. Losing narrowly to Chelsea away wouldn't really be a problem if we hadn't recently lost to beatable teams. There is frustration at the owners for not seemingly keen to invest in the squad, especially compared to our peers. And at the manager for playing the same team even in the face of defeat after defeat.

MrRobbo

Chaldon 16 Jan 23 8.45am

Originally posted by StrangerThing

So Vieira's record.

Season 1 finished 12th. Our 4th best result since our return and our 3rd best points total.

We transitioned away from the premierships oldest squad.

We recorded the second best goals for and for the first time had a positive goal difference.

Before Chelsea we were two points better off this year than last. (not sure the stat after Chelsea).

In 5 seasons Hodgson bettered 12th once (11th) and bettered the points total once 49 v 48.

Always good to get a bit of perspective.

I suspect the immense frustration is because we know we are better then we are currently playing. Losing narrowly to Chelsea away wouldn't really be a problem if we hadn't recently lost to beatable teams.

There is frustration at the owners for not seemingly keen to invest in the squad, especially compared to our peers. And at the manager for playing the same team even in the face of defeat after defeat.

eagleman13 On The Road To Hell & Alicante 16 Jan 23 2.27pm
Wasn't sure where to post this, but, seeing as it involves Palace, Olise, Textor & Lyon as well being a 'click-bait' piece, i thought id put it in the 'Rumours' thread [Link] Mods feel free to move if needed. This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.

eagleman13

On The Road To Hell & Alicante 16 Jan 23 2.27pm

Wasn't sure where to post this, but, seeing as it involves Palace, Olise, Textor & Lyon as well being a 'click-bait' piece, i thought id put it in the 'Rumours' thread

[Link]

Mods feel free to move if needed.

This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.

Lanzo-Ad Lanzarote 16 Jan 23 2.31pm
Originally posted by eagleman13 Wasn't sure where to post this, but, seeing as it involves Palace, Olise, Textor & Lyon as well being a 'click-bait' piece, i thought id put it in the 'Rumours' thread [Link] Mods feel free to move if needed. What about Roger Waters and Dave Gilmour as a midfield Duo “That’s a joke son, I say, that’s a joke.” “Nice boy, but he’s sharp as a throw pillow.” “He’s so dumb he thinks a Mexican border pays rent” “ “Son… I say, son, some people are so narrow minded they can look through a keyhole with both eyes.”__ Forhorn Leghorn

Lanzo-Ad

Lanzarote 16 Jan 23 2.31pm

Originally posted by eagleman13

Wasn't sure where to post this, but, seeing as it involves Palace, Olise, Textor & Lyon as well being a 'click-bait' piece, i thought id put it in the 'Rumours' thread

[Link]

Mods feel free to move if needed.

What about Roger Waters and Dave Gilmour as a midfield Duo

“That’s a joke son, I say, that’s a joke.” “Nice boy, but he’s sharp as a throw pillow.” “He’s so dumb he thinks a Mexican border pays rent” “ “Son… I say, son, some people are so narrow minded they can look through a keyhole with both eyes.”__ Forhorn Leghorn

Charlie B 16 Jan 23 3.38pm
Originally posted by MrRobbo Always good to get a bit of perspective. I suspect the immense frustration is because we know we are better then we are currently playing. Losing narrowly to Chelsea away wouldn't really be a problem if we hadn't recently lost to beatable teams. There is frustration at the owners for not seemingly keen to invest in the squad, especially compared to our peers. And at the manager for playing the same team even in the face of defeat after defeat. I dont believe that we are better than we are playing at the moment. You can only be judged on results. Over 600 mins without scoring a goal from open play (I beleive).

Charlie B

16 Jan 23 3.38pm

Originally posted by MrRobbo

Always good to get a bit of perspective.

I dont believe that we are better than we are playing at the moment. You can only be judged on results. Over 600 mins without scoring a goal from open play (I beleive).

Croydon-Trucker 16 Jan 23 3.50pm
Originally posted by eagleman13 Wasn't sure where to post this, but, seeing as it involves Palace, Olise, Textor & Lyon as well being a 'click-bait' piece, i thought id put it in the 'Rumours' thread [Link] Mods feel free to move if needed. All sounds a bit Smoke and Mirrors . Does this mean we are a feeder club for the Textor Empire .

Croydon-Trucker

16 Jan 23 3.50pm

Originally posted by eagleman13

Wasn't sure where to post this, but, seeing as it involves Palace, Olise, Textor & Lyon as well being a 'click-bait' piece, i thought id put it in the 'Rumours' thread

[Link]

Mods feel free to move if needed.

All sounds a bit Smoke and Mirrors . Does this mean we are a feeder club for the Textor Empire .

Croydon-Trucker 16 Jan 23 3.52pm
Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad What about Roger Waters and Dave Gilmour as a midfield Duo You would have to be of a certain age to get that on Lanzo I bet the younger ones are googling already .

Croydon-Trucker

16 Jan 23 3.52pm

Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad

What about Roger Waters and Dave Gilmour as a midfield Duo

You would have to be of a certain age to get that on Lanzo I bet the younger ones are googling already .

Midlands Eagle 16 Jan 23 4.41pm
Originally posted by Croydon-Trucker I bet the younger ones are googling already . We have younger ones here?

Midlands Eagle

16 Jan 23 4.41pm

Originally posted by Croydon-Trucker

I bet the younger ones are googling already .

We have younger ones here?

jackosperoni Penzance, Cornwall 16 Jan 23 6.44pm
Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad What about Roger Waters and Dave Gilmour as a midfield Duo Always thought ‘Rumours’ was by Fleetwood Mac! Mick Fleetwood might give us a bit of height at the back though! 55 years on the Palace rollercoaster!

jackosperoni

Penzance, Cornwall 16 Jan 23 6.44pm

Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad

What about Roger Waters and Dave Gilmour as a midfield Duo

Always thought ‘Rumours’ was by Fleetwood Mac! Mick Fleetwood might give us a bit of height at the back though!

55 years on the Palace rollercoaster!

Croydon-Trucker 17 Jan 23 1.04pm
Seemingly we have made a bid [Link]

Croydon-Trucker

17 Jan 23 1.04pm

Seemingly we have made a bid [Link]

doombear Too far from Selhurst Park 17 Jan 23 1.12pm
Originally posted by Croydon-Trucker Seemingly we have made a bid [Link] I think we were looking at him when he was still at QPR. Very inflated price now if true

doombear

Too far from Selhurst Park 17 Jan 23 1.12pm

Originally posted by Croydon-Trucker

Seemingly we have made a bid [Link]

I think we were looking at him when he was still at QPR. Very inflated price now if true

Midlands Eagle 17 Jan 23 1.25pm
Originally posted by doombear I think we were looking at him when he was still at QPR. Very inflated price now if true According to the article he is a right back yet when we were previously looking at him he was a winger

Midlands Eagle

17 Jan 23 1.25pm

Originally posted by doombear

I think we were looking at him when he was still at QPR. Very inflated price now if true

According to the article he is a right back yet when we were previously looking at him he was a winger

doombear Too far from Selhurst Park 17 Jan 23 1.28pm
Originally posted by Midlands Eagle According to the article he is a right back yet when we were previously looking at him he was a winger The same as AWB then Edited by doombear (17 Jan 2023 1.52pm)

doombear

Too far from Selhurst Park 17 Jan 23 1.28pm

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

According to the article he is a right back yet when we were previously looking at him he was a winger

The same as AWB then

Edited by doombear (17 Jan 2023 1.52pm)

Nicholas91 The Democratic Republic of Kent 17 Jan 23 1.29pm
Originally posted by Midlands Eagle According to the article he is a right back yet when we were previously looking at him he was a winger I'm not sure how reliable the Turkish footballing media is? If we are lining up a bid it is allegedly another interest in a footballer from Turkey. I'm not sure if that would qualify as 'picking gems' or 'bargain bucket hunting'. I'm inclined towards the latter. Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

Nicholas91

The Democratic Republic of Kent 17 Jan 23 1.29pm

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

According to the article he is a right back yet when we were previously looking at him he was a winger

I'm not sure how reliable the Turkish footballing media is?

If we are lining up a bid it is allegedly another interest in a footballer from Turkey. I'm not sure if that would qualify as 'picking gems' or 'bargain bucket hunting'. I'm inclined towards the latter.

Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 17 Jan 23 1.32pm
Originally posted by Nicholas91 I'm not sure how reliable the Turkish footballing media is? If we are lining up a bid it is allegedly another interest in a footballer from Turkey. I'm not sure if that would qualify as 'picking gems' or 'bargain bucket hunting'. I'm inclined towards the latter. I don't call 20 mil for a player who was bought last season for 1 mil is a bargain. I also don't think he's that good. Red and Blue Army!

ASCPFC

Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 17 Jan 23 1.32pm

Originally posted by Nicholas91

I'm not sure how reliable the Turkish footballing media is?

I don't call 20 mil for a player who was bought last season for 1 mil is a bargain. I also don't think he's that good.

Red and Blue Army!

Spiderman Horsham 17 Jan 23 1.44pm
Originally posted by Midlands Eagle According to the article he is a right back yet when we were previously looking at him he was a winger I think Fenerbache have converted him to full back. Did we not have an opportunity to sign him on a free? Big friends with Eze

Spiderman

Horsham 17 Jan 23 1.44pm

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

According to the article he is a right back yet when we were previously looking at him he was a winger

I think Fenerbache have converted him to full back. Did we not have an opportunity to sign him on a free? Big friends with Eze

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