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Originally posted by dannyboy1978
Don't twist it. I Said we have this debt whilst being inside the EU.
What b******s they are ! Lets hope they pay us back
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Talking rubish, you've lost the argument.
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
Well we were obviously thick and probably drunk/ hungover. Just like Brexiteers who are obviously right wing, xenophobic zealots. We all need a lesson from our betters sometimes. What a guy! We had one vote ever on it and passed it by a very large majority.
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Originally posted by corkery
We had one vote ever on it and passed it by a very large majority. Well, yes, one to reject and one to accept.
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So looks like Brexit is being delayed till Oct 31st. Can see a 2nd referendum.
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Originally posted by black eagle.
So looks like Brexit is being delayed till Oct 31st. Can see a 2nd referendum. Still can’t see a second referendum, but can see us causing chaos. Marcon stating that keeping Britain in after 30th June could jeopardise the entire EU. Erm, frenchy, Britain leaving has jeopardised the entire EU. The EU has still not woken up to the fact that having a country leave is a massive failure by the EU. I think the best anology is that it’s like dating someone who’s sensible but pretty annoying and always makes things difficult and boring. Then dumping that person for someone who seems better and more exciting. The more exciting person my be stupid and a liar, but that doesn’t discount from the fact that it wouldn’t have worked with the original person despite how much both sides wish to point out each other’s flaws. The EU will have to offer some kind of reform in order to be sure it could change the result in a second referendum.
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PM May will be gone after the EU elections allowing a Pro Brexit PM to get us out of this mess.
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Brexit’s never happening lads.
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
This situation has been engineered. The absurdity that we could end up with a very Left wing government out of a vote to leave Europe is a tragic comedy that even Shakespeare would consider too far fetched.
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Originally posted by DanH
Brexit’s never happening lads. In all likelihood a Brexit of some kind will happen. For the sake of any level of national unity, I'm not sure that just forgetting about the result of the vote will solve anything.
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Originally posted by dollardays
In all likelihood a Brexit of some kind will happen. For the sake of any level of national unity, I'm not sure that just forgetting about the result of the vote will solve anything. Agreed, but I think it will be in form rather than substance. Even the most ardent of Brexiteers involved in the detail are realising it’s all too intrinsically linked to make a clean break from the EU.
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Originally posted by black eagle.
So looks like Brexit is being delayed till Oct 31st. Can see a 2nd referendum. It's a possibility, but I think a general election this year is more likely. A new tory leader will then be likely to adopt a different approach to Brexit. We'll move into hard Brexit territory perhaps. The alternative would be if Labour made further gains. With any other leader I think they would, but does Corbyn have wide enough appeal? He's as if not more unpopular than May. His Brexit approach has been very wishy washy, so that counts against them. He'd be relying on anger at the government and disenfranchised voters staying home. Hard to call.
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Originally posted by DanH
Agreed, but I think it will be in form rather than substance. Even the most ardent of Brexiteers involved in the detail are realising it’s all too intrinsically linked to make a clean break from the EU. I think we could very well end up with some kind of one foot in, one foot out situation that nobody's particularly happy about.
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Originally posted by dollardays
I think we could very well end up with some kind of one foot in, one foot out situation that nobody's particularly happy about. Inevitable.
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Originally posted by DanH
Brexit’s never happening lads. Emailed only last night to me from government petitions, sorry lad "Government responded: The Government stands by its commitment to uphold the result of the 2016 referendum. We continue to seek a consensus across the House, which will allow the UK to leave the EU with a deal in place. In 2016, this Government stated that it would honour the result of the referendum, whatever the outcome."
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Originally posted by DanH
Agreed, but I think it will be in form rather than substance. Even the most ardent of Brexiteers involved in the detail are realising it’s all too intrinsically linked to make a clean break from the EU. Except it is not. That is the point. A clean break could have easily been managed over the 2 plus years if the will had been there. Make no mistake. This has been a stitch up ever since May took office. They are trying to destroy our will to resist. We need to now elect as many Brexit MEP's as possible and disrupt every single institution of the EU. Take the fight back to Brussels now. And May needs getting rid of. By hook or by crook. She needs to be out of Number 10 asap.
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Originally posted by dollardays
It's a possibility, but I think a general election this year is more likely. A new tory leader will then be likely to adopt a different approach to Brexit. We'll move into hard Brexit territory perhaps. The alternative would be if Labour made further gains. With any other leader I think they would, but does Corbyn have wide enough appeal? He's as if not more unpopular than May. His Brexit approach has been very wishy washy, so that counts against them. He'd be relying on anger at the government and disenfranchised voters staying home. Hard to call. The Tories don't want a GE, they will take a battering for the brexit debacle, they are being propped up by the DUP and with an inevitable swing the other way who else can they go into coalition with? Corbyns popularity won't come into it as he will get all the remain voters and people who vote other right wing parties only helps labour. The only realistic next government is a labour / SNP coalition
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Originally posted by DanH
Agreed, but I think it will be in form rather than substance. Even the most ardent of Brexiteers involved in the detail are realising it’s all too intrinsically linked to make a clean break from the EU. Here's a little analogy for you: if you had lots of sticks in the garden with string all twisted through them, knotted and doubled back, which would be easier - to cut the string, pull it all out and replace it or to spend several days trying to untie it in one piece and re-roll it into a neat ball? Life is often like a piece of string!
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Originally posted by becky
Here's a little analogy for you: if you had lots of sticks in the garden with string all twisted through them, knotted and doubled back, which would be easier - to cut the string, pull it all out and replace it or to spend several days trying to untie it in one piece and re-roll it into a neat ball? Life is often like a piece of string! A Gordian Brown knot?
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