Effects of Austerity Cuts part 58
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nickgusset  Shizzlehurst 04 Jun 15 7.25pm |
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Interesting article in the economist about IMF research saying that austerity is not (in the majority of cases) the way forward to bring going down the debt to GDP ratio.
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 the.universal 04 Jun 15 7.48pm |
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Quote nickgusset at 04 Jun 2015 7.25pm
Interesting article in the economist about IMF research saying that austerity is not (in the majority of cases) the way forward to bring going down the debt to GDP ratio.
What is the point of Corbyn standing though? Surely labour need to move to the right of Milliband? To my mind, a lurch to the left would be suicidal in terms of getting elected next time. What's the argument for moving further left, and where's the precedent that it could work?
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| legaleagle 04 Jun 15 9.55pm |
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Corbyn is an ok person for a politician IMO. He really went out of his way to help a constituent who was a workmate of mine. He's standing,I would think, to raise the profile within and outside the party of the "left" in the Party.The more internal support a candidate gets,the more leverage to get their supporters' policies higher on the party policy agenda. May be the same when they choose Cameron's successor with a candidate from the further right reaches of the party running for the same reasons.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 04 Jun 15 10.24pm |
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Skinner on Labour
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| derben 04 Jun 15 10.45pm |
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Quote nickgusset at 04 Jun 2015 10.24pm
Skinner on Labour Wow, The Morning Star. It is still going then! "What do we want?" - "A General Strike" - "When do we want it?" - "NOW!"
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| the.universal 04 Jun 15 11.11pm |
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Quote legaleagle at 04 Jun 2015 9.55pm
Corbyn is an ok person for a politician IMO. He really went out of his way to help a constituent who was a workmate of mine. He's standing,I would think, to raise the profile within and outside the party of the "left" in the Party.The more internal support a candidate gets,the more leverage to get their supporters' policies higher on the party policy agenda. May be the same when they choose Cameron's successor with a candidate from the further right reaches of the party running for the same reasons. I see, that would make sense. Going left will not help them get relected, though it may please some of the hardcore support (who would always vote Labour anyhow). Preaching to the converted.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 04 Jun 15 11.14pm |
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Quote the.universal at 04 Jun 2015 11.11pm
Quote legaleagle at 04 Jun 2015 9.55pm
Corbyn is an ok person for a politician IMO. He really went out of his way to help a constituent who was a workmate of mine. He's standing,I would think, to raise the profile within and outside the party of the "left" in the Party.The more internal support a candidate gets,the more leverage to get their supporters' policies higher on the party policy agenda. May be the same when they choose Cameron's successor with a candidate from the further right reaches of the party running for the same reasons. I see, that would make sense. Going left will not help them get relected, though it may please some of the hardcore support (who would always vote Labour anyhow). Preaching to the converted.
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| the.universal 04 Jun 15 11.24pm |
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Quote nickgusset at 04 Jun 2015 11.14pm
Quote the.universal at 04 Jun 2015 11.11pm
Quote legaleagle at 04 Jun 2015 9.55pm
Corbyn is an ok person for a politician IMO. He really went out of his way to help a constituent who was a workmate of mine. He's standing,I would think, to raise the profile within and outside the party of the "left" in the Party.The more internal support a candidate gets,the more leverage to get their supporters' policies higher on the party policy agenda. May be the same when they choose Cameron's successor with a candidate from the further right reaches of the party running for the same reasons. I see, that would make sense. Going left will not help them get relected, though it may please some of the hardcore support (who would always vote Labour anyhow). Preaching to the converted.
The numbers do not stack up for this justification. Greens got 3.8% of vote. It's not them that Labour need, it's the middle ground.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 04 Jun 15 11.32pm |
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Quote the.universal at 04 Jun 2015 11.24pm
Quote nickgusset at 04 Jun 2015 11.14pm
Quote the.universal at 04 Jun 2015 11.11pm
Quote legaleagle at 04 Jun 2015 9.55pm
Corbyn is an ok person for a politician IMO. He really went out of his way to help a constituent who was a workmate of mine. He's standing,I would think, to raise the profile within and outside the party of the "left" in the Party.The more internal support a candidate gets,the more leverage to get their supporters' policies higher on the party policy agenda. May be the same when they choose Cameron's successor with a candidate from the further right reaches of the party running for the same reasons. I see, that would make sense. Going left will not help them get relected, though it may please some of the hardcore support (who would always vote Labour anyhow). Preaching to the converted.
The numbers do not stack up for this justification. Greens got 3.8% of vote. It's not them that Labour need, it's the middle ground. More Tory lite you mean?
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| the.universal 04 Jun 15 11.34pm |
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Quote nickgusset at 04 Jun 2015 11.32pm
Quote the.universal at 04 Jun 2015 11.24pm
Quote nickgusset at 04 Jun 2015 11.14pm
Quote the.universal at 04 Jun 2015 11.11pm
Quote legaleagle at 04 Jun 2015 9.55pm
Corbyn is an ok person for a politician IMO. He really went out of his way to help a constituent who was a workmate of mine. He's standing,I would think, to raise the profile within and outside the party of the "left" in the Party.The more internal support a candidate gets,the more leverage to get their supporters' policies higher on the party policy agenda. May be the same when they choose Cameron's successor with a candidate from the further right reaches of the party running for the same reasons. I see, that would make sense. Going left will not help them get relected, though it may please some of the hardcore support (who would always vote Labour anyhow). Preaching to the converted.
The numbers do not stack up for this justification. Greens got 3.8% of vote. It's not them that Labour need, it's the middle ground. More Tory lite you mean? I'm talking about Labour lite. Social justice with a pro-business agenda.
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| derben 05 Jun 15 8.00am |
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Trouble is Nick, the electorate are just too stupid (except for the liberal London middle classes, ethnic minorities, transgendered, gay cake buying activists etc - their contemporary constituency). The working classes in the north migrated to UKIP in astonishing numbers, stupid, stupid people - they must be either horrible human beings or just plain thick. Can't rely on this democracy malarkey, perhaps the time has come for the Dictatorship of the Proletariat, eh Nick?
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| Dweeb East London 05 Jun 15 10.18am |
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Well the Tories don't seem to be doing the disabled any good do they [Link] and that is before July's budget and the slashing of even more public spending.
Taking the Sorry to see Lee Hills go, did we ever see Alex Marrow? We did January 2013 |
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