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Effects of Austerity Cuts part 58

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Quote eagleeeeeeees at 28 May 2015 7.53pm

Yes it will be paid off but not if we waste it spending on things we simply cannot afford. I have no idea who we owe debt to, but I do know that we are paying enormous amounts of interest on it. Look at what has happened in Greece, we need controlled spending which maintains our public services and encourages growth without maintaining areas of government where we are loosing money to no avail. Look at the police, a smaller force- yet crime is down 20%. As long as I like the majority of the people are not seriously adveresely affected then I think we should cut as much as possible; in order to live within our means.


living within our means ??when has that happened/been a good thing as it would suggest taxation is to high and all that happens is interest rates would rise.

as for the 20% drop in crime, well it could be suggested that the fact we have never imprisoned so many people may be something to do with it!

Austerity (or doing nothing), is out of control and we are nowhere nearer paying of the debt than we where 5 yrs ago, we have never owed so much money and have no real plan of how to pay it back.


 

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So what do YOU propose to do about it? I will vote a party which aims to boost our economy/ whilst eliminating the defecit. I would think that once the defecit is zero we will begin to save up the money to repay our debts.

 

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Quote eagleeeeeeees at 28 May 2015 7.53pm

Yes it will be paid off but not if we waste it spending on things we simply cannot afford. I have no idea who we owe debt to, but I do know that we are paying enormous amounts of interest on it. Look at what has happened in Greece, we need controlled spending which maintains our public services and encourages growth without maintaining areas of government where we are loosing money to no avail. Look at the police, a smaller force- yet crime is down 20%. As long as I like the majority of the people are not seriously adveresely affected then I think we should cut as much as possible; in order to live within our means.

So you have no idea where the majority of your money/taxes are being spent? Hmm.

As for Greece, another example of those that you 'have no idea of' doing what they do best. Taking money from Joe public................because they can.

 

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View eagleeeeeeees's Profile eagleeeeeeees Flag 28 May 15 9.41pm Send a Private Message to eagleeeeeeees Add eagleeeeeeees as a friend

Would it please you if I learnt and memorised exactly who the U.K. government has loaned money from? Pretty futile to match the petty point you're trying to make

 

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Most of the world's debt is own either by oil producers like Saudi Arabia or the likes of China - which owns most of the USA by all accounts.

 


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What are the actual effects then? As all I'm hearing is Middle class with such gripes as property prices in trendy areas. They've even stopped moaning about the things that actually affect the poor.

 

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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 01 Jun 15 3.19pm

Quote eagleeeeeeees at 28 May 2015 7.10pm

you do realise that we are in over a trillion pounds worth of debt? Austerity is just a word for living within our means and yes cuts have to be drastic in order to save enough money to pay it off. It wouldn't be like this if we weren't in so much debt, lets get that sorted out first and we can then rebuild. I dont understand how people want to to vote for a party that wants to borrow even more, wasting taxpayers money through vast interest payments

Of course we have to reduce the deficit and debt levels used to bail out the collapse of the economy that was used to shore up the damages of ineptitude coming from the private financial sector.

Of course that doesn't necessarily mean that cuts in front line public services, are the only option, raising new avenues of revenue and taxation were also viable options to reduce the impact on services of cuts.


 


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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 01 Jun 15 3.21pm

Quote johnfirewall at 01 Jun 2015 2.42pm

What are the actual effects then? As all I'm hearing is Middle class with such gripes as property prices in trendy areas. They've even stopped moaning about the things that actually affect the poor.

Increasingly difficult to use public services and increasingly frustratingly poor service with more hidden charges and a big f**k you to the mentally ill - which is usually how these things pan out.

 


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The population continues to rise.
Funding continues not to be linked to that.

Hence infrastructure becomes more and more insufficient and services become less effective as they are stretched increasingly thinly.

Basically, if you are poor, you are fecked.

Edited by Stirlingsays (01 Jun 2015 3.31pm)

 


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derben Flag 01 Jun 15 4.02pm

Quote Stirlingsays at 01 Jun 2015 3.31pm

The population continues to rise.

Funding continues not to be linked to that.

Hence infrastructure becomes more and more insufficient and services become less effective as they are stretched increasingly thinly.

Basically, if you are poor, you are fecked.

Edited by Stirlingsays (01 Jun 2015 3.31pm)

Both will inexorably grow while we are in the EU death grip.

 

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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 01 Jun 15 4.08pm

Quote Stirlingsays at 01 Jun 2015 3.31pm

The population continues to rise.
Funding continues not to be linked to that.

Hence infrastructure becomes more and more insufficient and services become less effective as they are stretched increasingly thinly.

Basically, if you are poor, you are fecked.

Edited by Stirlingsays (01 Jun 2015 3.31pm)

What we need is a random sterilization program, world wide, get the population down to about 2m


 


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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 01 Jun 15 4.10pm

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Quote Stirlingsays at 01 Jun 2015 3.31pm

The population continues to rise.
Funding continues not to be linked to that.

Hence infrastructure becomes more and more insufficient and services become less effective as they are stretched increasingly thinly.

Basically, if you are poor, you are fecked.

Edited by Stirlingsays (01 Jun 2015 3.31pm)

What we need is a random sterilization program, world wide, get the population down to about 2m


Globally, starting with anyone who misuses the work literally. Used to be you could rely on the left wing to reduce populations of countries, whilst employing thousands in the execution and corpse disposal business.

Say what you like about Stalin, he was an expert in population control....


 


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