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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag Chatham 04 Apr 20 7.10pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

Far more qualified to run the country than the second rate journalist currently attempting it.

You may be correct with his qualifications compared to boris but he isnt and never will run the country.

 

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His advisors have told him to run for the Israeli Presidency. Heard he is as popular there as he is in Scotland.

 


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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 04 Apr 20 7.35pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

Far more qualified to run the country than the second rate journalist currently attempting it.

I'm sure the people will forget how he tried to cheat them out of Brexit for his own ends in about 50 years time.

 

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Originally posted by croydon proud

I feel history will be kind to him, with his constant bleating about a better funded and prepared NHS, time will tell when we count the bodies!

If Corbyn had kept his commitments to a better funded NHS / Social care you would have a point. I suspect that he might have won the GE on that platform.

The problem was his irresponsible fiscal commitments on all the other sectors of the economy probably frightened off the voters. The lesson for Labour is to focus on a few specific pledges that they can demonstrate to the public can be funded. I got the impression that Corbyn and his chancellor were making it up as they went along promising all things to all people.

Practical politicians understand that you cannot solve all of the problems at once you have to prioritise.

 


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View croydon proud's Profile croydon proud Flag croydon 04 Apr 20 8.51pm Send a Private Message to croydon proud Add croydon proud as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

If Corbyn had kept his commitments to a better funded NHS / Social care you would have a point. I suspect that he might have won the GE on that platform.

The problem was his irresponsible fiscal commitments on all the other sectors of the economy probably frightened off the voters. The lesson for Labour is to focus on a few specific pledges that they can demonstrate to the public can be funded. I got the impression that Corbyn and his chancellor were making it up as they went along promising all things to all people.

Practical politicians understand that you cannot solve all of the problems at once you have to prioritise.

You could be right there, they seemed to panic towards the end chucking new ideas in, athough Boris is obviously winging it to, but over here the conservatives are always going to get the vote in an even winging contest, maybe in 10 years things will be a lot different, the youngsters coming through are far less set in their ways and will be less inclined to go with the old school set up, with a billionaire chancellor ffs, and more outward looking, if we all get another 10 years obvs!

 

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View Tom-the-eagle's Profile Tom-the-eagle Flag Croydon 04 Apr 20 8.58pm Send a Private Message to Tom-the-eagle Add Tom-the-eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Jimenez

But,but,but.Don't forget his dad was a toolmaker.

And look at the tool he made

 


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Watching Labour scum like Jess Phillips trying to make gain out of this crisis turns one's stomach.

The BBC can't get enough of it.

 

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View HKOwen's Profile HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 05 Apr 20 1.44pm Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

....is now confined to the rubbish bin, good riddance.

Get the pop corn and watch his cult members lose their sh(t and Labour break up, jubbly.

Starmer just the leader to reconnect with the Red Wall

 


Let's see SP and the board trying to line up for a piss in the AW toilets at half time before peddling the new stand. We're the Arthur over here and the facilities are a disgrace

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Will likely be buried in in all the coronavirus news but Labour report on Antisemitism for EHRC has now been blocked from going to the commission. Corbyn said to be furious about this.

The investigation, which was completed in the last month of Jeremy Corbyn's leadership, claims to have found "no evidence" of antisemitism complaints being treated differently to other forms of complaint, or of current or former staff being "motivated by antisemitic intent".

Instead, the report concludes there was a lack of "robust processes, systems, training, education and effective line management" and found "abundant evidence of a hyper-factional atmosphere prevailing in Party HQ" towards Mr Corbyn which "affected the expeditious and resolute handling of disciplinary complaints".

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Ironically many of the people complaining about antisemitism within the party seemingly were making it harder to resolve...

 

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Presumably the author of this report will now be elevated to the House of Lords as happened to the previous one.

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 12 Apr 20 3.46pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by SavoyTruffle

Will likely be buried in in all the coronavirus news but Labour report on Antisemitism for EHRC has now been blocked from going to the commission. Corbyn said to be furious about this.

The investigation, which was completed in the last month of Jeremy Corbyn's leadership, claims to have found "no evidence" of antisemitism complaints being treated differently to other forms of complaint, or of current or former staff being "motivated by antisemitic intent".

Instead, the report concludes there was a lack of "robust processes, systems, training, education and effective line management" and found "abundant evidence of a hyper-factional atmosphere prevailing in Party HQ" towards Mr Corbyn which "affected the expeditious and resolute handling of disciplinary complaints".

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Ironically many of the people complaining about antisemitism within the party seemingly were making it harder to resolve...

I may have got this wrong but this is a Labour party report not the EHRC official report?

I'm not surprised about it's finding but it doesn't let Labour off the hook. As I understand it the report blames factional in fighting for the way complaints were handled or were delayed?

That may well be true but I assume that the report admits there is a problem with the process even if they reject the notion that it is due to anti-Semitism. The point being there was / is a problem entirely of Labour's making and within there control to resolve.

I have no idea if the problem lies with the anti Corbyn faction or if the delays were related to friends and allies of the accused blocking the process the point being the process is flawed.

We shall have to see what the EHRC make of this but I suspect that their conclusion will be the same that these complains were not handled in a timely or fair manner as for the motives as to why this is!...

 


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Originally posted by Badger11

I may have got this wrong but this is a Labour party report not the EHRC official report?

I'm not surprised about it's finding but it doesn't let Labour off the hook. As I understand it the report blames factional in fighting for the way complaints were handled or were delayed?

That may well be true but I assume that the report admits there is a problem with the process even if they reject the notion that it is due to anti-Semitism. The point being there was / is a problem entirely of Labour's making and within there control to resolve.

I have no idea if the problem lies with the anti Corbyn faction or if the delays were related to friends and allies of the accused blocking the process the point being the process is flawed.

We shall have to see what the EHRC make of this but I suspect that their conclusion will be the same that these complains were not handled in a timely or fair manner as for the motives as to why this is!...

This is the EHRC report commissioned in the final months of Corbynís leadership, you are correct I understand there will be a full scale report to follow.

The review of this report certainly doesnít seem to show that antisemitism within Labour was made up or manufactured. This is a position I have always held and have no problem with a party that calls itself a party of social justice being held to high standards of anti racism. From my reading so far it shows it was a genuine problem among a minority and party mechanisms didnít function in the way it should.

My interest in this story today is regarding factions within Labour keen to exacerbate the problem as part of personal slight towards the leadership.

 

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